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cats_09 said:
Interesting article, only problem is that Fremantle don't have pick 7 - that's Carltons pick

So while Fremantle may be happy trading pick 7 for Clark, not sure Carlton will agree

Really curious as to why journalists can't get even the basics right
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Its like they are in a time warp... the had 7 before it was adjusted before the adjustment for their debt from last year
 

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Turbocat said:
Its like they are in a time warp... the had 7 before it was adjusted before the adjustment for their debt from last year
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More like the entire article is speculation.
 
hbk_aus said:
I dont want to lose Simpson or Sav though.
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Simpson I definitely don't want to lose after watching him this year

I'd be reluctant to lose Ratugolea as he's only 22, was a later comer to the game and looks to still have a lot of room for development; but if a deal worth over his value was presented then it could be hard to say no
 
Kyuss said:
If that's the case we should be using the cap space to get Cameron for free. Which is maybe another reason we've dropped out of the race.
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I think we might if gws get obstinate and demand too much.
 
cats_09 said:
Simpson I definitely don't want to lose after watching him this year

I'd be reluctant to lose Ratugolea as he's only 22, was a later comer to the game and looks to still have a lot of room for development; but if a deal worth over his value was presented then it could be hard to say no
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We really still as strong as our list is elsewhere are weak in the ruck id rather trade other fringe players than sav.

I doubt simpson will go.
 
Turbocat said:
As I said..I think we could work out a way to do it... but id rather persist with young mids..hopefully robust mids
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Oh i agree im just saying cap is not the issue.
 
cats_09 said:
Simpson I definitely don't want to lose after watching him this year

I'd be reluctant to lose Ratugolea as he's only 22, was a later comer to the game and looks to still have a lot of room for development; but if a deal worth over his value was presented then it could be hard to say no
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I still wouldnt let him go. He is our only decent big guy under the age of 25/26 years old. De Koning may be good but we dont know.
 

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hbk_aus said:
Geelong is out of the race for Brad Crouch and has taken Brandan Parfitt out of the Jeremy Cameron trade picture by re-signing him for two seasons.
The Cats are thrilled to have attracted star free agent Cameron but will now have to trade for him given GWS is intent on matching a bid.

Geelong has a trio of first-round picks but GWS has already indicated it would like young players in the package before it releases Cameron.

RELATED: WHAT HAPPENS IF GIANTS MATCH CATS OFFER?

The Giants under AFL rules can match a bid then force a trade, with Cameron’s only other option to stay or go into the pre-season draft.

The Herald Sun understands Sam Simpson and Esava Ratugolea are two players the Giants have in their sights.

Parfitt would be the perfect midfielder to compliment the band of hard inside onballers at GWS.

But it is understood he officially agreed to terms with Geelong last week as Adelaide expressed interest if the Cats lured Brad Crouch.
Parfitt is a South Australian and in the perfect age bracket for Adelaide to try to drag him back home if it matched a Crouch bid and tried to force a trade.

But even before the Cats got confirmation Jeremy Cameron was moving south, they had made clear they weren’t bidders on Crouch any more.

At one stage there were heavily into both Jack Viney and Crouch but the Demons midfielder signed with Melbourne for five seasons.

The Cats will also secure North Melbourne’s Shaun Higgins, believing he is the perfect swap for a retiring Gary Ablett.

Geelong could also get a late second-round pick for Nakia Cockatoo, who the Herald Sun revealed last month will join Brisbane.

A second or third-round pick might help them with a trade package to satisfy GWS.

Geelong will sign Tom Hawkins on a two-year contract and can secure Cameron with a deal of between $800,000 and $900,000.

It is hard to think of a star pair of forwards who can work better together — and they are the last two Coleman Medal winners – given Cameron is happy to roam far and wide and Hawkins plays from the square.

With Patrick Dangerfield also playing forward and Higgins on a half-forward flank it will be one of footy’s most terrifying forward lines.

Geelong has always had a principle of a broad pay structure where it does not bring in players who are paid more than its best player (in this case Patrick Dangerfield) and its captain (Joel Selwood).

Even with the COVID cut, to secure Cameron for around $850,000 is a masterstroke given the AFL’s highest-paid stars are on around $1.2 million a season.

Fremantle has expressed a strong interest in securing gun young defender Jordan Clark from Geelong.

The Dockers have pick No. 7 and could give it up for Clark in exchange for the Cats’ second-round selection as part of a pick swap.

It would mean the Cats could add a fourth first-round pick on top of the three first-round choices Geelong already has in this year’s draft.

Geelong already has pick No. 11 (from Gold Coast) in this year’s draft as well as West Coast’s first-round pick on top of Geelong’s original first-round selection.

It is an incredibly strong draft hand for a club which will also secure free agent Jeremy Cameron from GWS Giants and Shaun Higgins from North Melbourne.

Clark has only played three games this year after a sizzling debut season in the AFL last year, but doubts have emerged about his defensive capacity.

Clark, who is from Western Australia, would help bolster the Dockers’ running power and linebreaking ability through the half back line and wing areas.

He is seen as a significant offensive threat and Fremantle wants to add to its outside midfield options after securing James Aish and Blake Acres last year.

The Dockers are known to be keen on Clark and have zeroed in on a potential trade while he has remained sidelined late in the season.

Clark, who is contracted at Geelong for next season, finished equal fifth in the Rising Star award last year.
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Bit hard to take an article seriously that mentions Parfitt being South Australian and Fremantle having pick 7.
 
Why you go Higgins over Crouch if you have a choice is insane.

If Cameron is getting 900K as Jay is suggesting then it’s wrong that the Giants can match. They can’t pay that amount so how can they offer it.

We won’t get a second rounder for Cocky and I’d say there is zero chance Esava gets traded as it would leave us with two rucks and zero on the horizon.
 

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On Crouch, I think we have a core group of "young enough" midfielders that I'm not sure there's even an obvious spot for him.
Guthrie, Menegola, Parfitt, Simpson is a fine core group that could play together for many years, plus we have some hopeful, potential rookies who could slot into roles alongside them.
That's also ignoring the very short term Dangerfield and Selwood of course.
Crouch would probably push out Simpson, and likely out perform him, but I don't think that's enough of a short term net gain to longer term net loss to both, especially considering how much we'd have to pay him.
It seems like the club sees it in a similar way to how we do, and agree.
Richmond can have him.
 
Mad_Hatter said:
On Crouch, I think we have a core group of "young enough" midfielders that I'm not sure there's even an obvious spot for him.
Guthrie, Menegola, Parfitt, Simpson is a fine core group that could play together for many years, plus we have some hopeful, potential rookies who could slot into roles alongside them.
That's also ignoring the very short term Dangerfield and Selwood of course.
Crouch would probably push out Simpson, and likely out perform him, but I don't think that's enough of a short term net gain to longer term net loss to both, especially considering how much we'd have to pay him.
It seems like the club sees it in a similar way to how we do, and agree.
Richmond can have him.
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I am hoping Simpsons finals have made Geelong re think Crouch
 
BigCat1 said:
Why you go Higgins over Crouch if you have a choice is insane.

If Cameron is getting 900K as Jay is suggesting then it’s wrong that the Giants can match. They can’t pay that amount so how can they offer it.

We won’t get a second rounder for Cocky and I’d say there is zero chance Esava gets traded as it would leave us with two rucks and zero on the horizon.
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The way I see it, Higgins over Crouch is this.

1. Higgins is a forward flanker, which we probably do have a need for with Ablett leaving, whereas we have plenty of midfielders.
2. Cost. Crouch won't leave the Crows unless you offer a far too high wage, whereas it seems we could use one of our glut of draft picks and have north pay Higgins wage.
3. Outside class. Crouch is a good player but a polished kick on the outside he isn't, but Higgins is. He's an elite user by foot.
4. Not a point, I just want to point out, I personally would prefer not to get either Higgins nor Crouch.
 
Jack The Godfather said:
Simpson isn't going anywhere
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He is not but let’s not forget ppl had him delisted a month go.

You need more than a hot two days to make a summer. Being a father son he won’t get traded and he doesn’t strike me as an outgoing, show me the love kind of guy.

We actually have very few outgoing “Collingwood” types.
 
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