Rumour GFC 2021 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists

[CatsDoItBetter]

Its a result of having an era when he has played so many finals..so probably never again

And he has barely missed a game since he debuted.

 

[Turbocat]

Word I've heard is that Selwood wants one more year. I don't think we worry about midfield FA until the end of next year. Get games into Narkle, Holmes, Clark and hopefully Stephens next year.

Been thinking on your post even more. Another factor I feel is SalCap. It would not hurt to only add draft contracts for mids..especially since we have those mids that will be hunting for games.

The more this draft seems affected by the lack of form, and the fact that its a mid draft with limited talls, I wonder if we minimise our picks in the draft. We elevate Atkins, that leaves two picks.

Obviously trades can affect it, but unless its a trade for a tall of need then having a quite year , as you say is the way to go. Certainly unless we lose an older player and we replace him with a younger best22 player.

If we lose Constable, Jenkins, Narkle, Stanley...perhaps Tarheny or Jarvis. Its still doesnt create a spot in our best22 for a mid.


I feel your point on the players is a good one. If Clark is still here he will be crying out for a chance. Holmes a year older probably gets nursed along but we have done it before.His size and running ability will see him get chances... and Stephens simply needs to do something next year. He must stay fit and break in a confirm his future. And we have Simpson wanting a spot and I suspect we will continue to annoy people by selecting ZacG.

So as much as some pundits say we must hit the draft, until we clear a road block in the best22, it probably on will create churn.We dont really need numbers we need quality.

We look at a club that needs points and either get earlier this year or next year. For example if Sam Darcy is the best tall in the draft..how early does someone call his name.. A top10 bid will put them into deficit. Do they wear that or trade their r1 for more points. Maybe they hold and hope no one calls his name till after their R1 but the draft having a drought of talls , a 204cm kid will probably get a bid, especially after the bargains they have had recently.

If the Dogs feel they will need points, depending on how early the bid is we could move up to a late R1 and keep one R2 or perhaps trade all three, and get a Fr2.

Maybe we add another kid of around Holmes standard, have a late pick , elevate Atkins and do we keep a spot open so next year we have a mid year draft to look at the kids that develop.

 

[Turbocat]

And he has barely missed a game since he debuted.

Not bad for a guy who would not last due to his knee.

 

[bulletproof]

Not bad for a guy who would not last due to his knee.

If we can get over the Bulldogs and Lions next two weeks, we can start managing Selwood through back half of year. Scott and Selwood always talk about doing this at start of year but never do. If we manage a few players, it will give opportunities to Clark and Narkle too.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Been thinking on your post even more. Another factor I feel is SalCap. It would not hurt to only add draft contracts for mids..especially since we have those mids that will be hunting for games.

The more this draft seems affected by the lack of form, and the fact that its a mid draft with limited talls, I wonder if we minimise our picks in the draft. We elevate Atkins, that leaves two picks.

Obviously trades can affect it, but unless its a trade for a tall of need then having a quite year , as you say is the way to go. Certainly unless we lose an older player and we replace him with a younger best22 player.

If we lose Constable, Jenkins, Narkle, Stanley...perhaps Tarheny or Jarvis. Its still doesnt create a spot in our best22 for a mid.


I feel your point on the players is a good one. If Clark is still here he will be crying out for a chance. Holmes a year older probably gets nursed along but we have done it before.His size and running ability will see him get chances... and Stephens simply needs to do something next year. He must stay fit and break in a confirm his future. And we have Simpson wanting a spot and I suspect we will continue to annoy people by selecting ZacG.

So as much as some pundits say we must hit the draft, until we clear a road block in the best22, it probably on will create churn.We dont really need numbers we need quality.

We look at a club that needs points and either get earlier this year or next year. For example if Sam Darcy is the best tall in the draft..how early does someone call his name.. A top10 bid will put them into deficit. Do they wear that or trade their r1 for more points. Maybe they hold and hope no one calls his name till after their R1 but the draft having a drought of talls , a 204cm kid will probably get a bid, especially after the bargains they have had recently.

If the Dogs feel they will need points, depending on how early the bid is we could move up to a late R1 and keep one R2 or perhaps trade all three, and get a Fr2.

Maybe we add another kid of around Holmes standard, have a late pick , elevate Atkins and do we keep a spot open so next year we have a mid year draft to look at the kids that develop.

100% agree on the list numbers crush and the number of kids that won't get games.

I think that's already playing out with talls this year. Tsap at the jets, Neale back in WA. That's Fort and Jenkins probably gone right there though I'd want to find a way to keep Fort, like giving Tsapatolis a year as a kpd.

If this is such a good midfield draft then there's every chance a Brandon Parfitt or Shai Bolton could be had at the 2x 2nds we traded in. And those types wouldn't be expected to crack the b22 until 2023 anyway. We have to draft 2 anyway. Trade every other pick into next year and only take future picks for anyone wanting a trade out maybe unless it's a significant pick upgrade.

 

[Turbocat]

100% agree on the list numbers crush and the number of kids that won't get games.

I think that's already playing out with talls this year. Tsap at the jets, Neale back in WA. That's Fort and Jenkins probably gone right there though I'd want to find a way to keep Fort, like giving Tsapatolis a year as a kpd.

If this is such a good midfield draft then there's every chance a Brandon Parfitt or Shai Bolton could be had at the 2x 2nds we traded in. And those types wouldn't be expected to crack the b22 until 2023 anyway. We have to draft 2 anyway. Trade every other pick into next year and only take future picks for anyone wanting a trade out maybe unless it's a significant pick upgrade.

I think most draft are only plus or minus 10% different..but this years draft has to be more of a raffle than most when coming off last year. Listening to the road to the draft... the rm's at least had the vision for last years draft , this year they are almost having to use u16 vision. I suspect most rm's will look hard at the non vic kids, at least they have been playing...which means SW, being such a contrarian , may look for value in vic.

Im not sure id say its a great mid draft , its just appears its not great for talls. Maybe thats why we went heavy in talls last year.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Word I've heard is that Selwood wants one more year. I don't think we worry about midfield FA until the end of next year. Get games into Narkle, Holmes, Clark and hopefully Stephens next year.

And he'll become our first 350 game player.

He'll also surpass Enright's games record in week 1 of finals if he plays the last 10 games.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

2016 draft.

Pick 26: Brandan Parfitt
Pick 40: Tom Stewart
Pick 43: Esava Ratugolea
Pick 60: Quinton Narkle
Rookie Pick 16: Jack Henry
Cat B Rookie: Mark O'Connor

We nailed that given the picks we had.

 

[year of the cat]

Been thinking on your post even more. Another factor I feel is SalCap. It would not hurt to only add draft contracts for mids..especially since we have those mids that will be hunting for games.

The more this draft seems affected by the lack of form, and the fact that its a mid draft with limited talls, I wonder if we minimise our picks in the draft. We elevate Atkins, that leaves two picks.

Obviously trades can affect it, but unless its a trade for a tall of need then having a quite year , as you say is the way to go. Certainly unless we lose an older player and we replace him with a younger best22 player.

If we lose Constable, Jenkins, Narkle, Stanley...perhaps Tarheny or Jarvis. Its still doesnt create a spot in our best22 for a mid.


I feel your point on the players is a good one. If Clark is still here he will be crying out for a chance. Holmes a year older probably gets nursed along but we have done it before.His size and running ability will see him get chances... and Stephens simply needs to do something next year. He must stay fit and break in a confirm his future. And we have Simpson wanting a spot and I suspect we will continue to annoy people by selecting ZacG.

So as much as some pundits say we must hit the draft, until we clear a road block in the best22, it probably on will create churn.We dont really need numbers we need quality.

We look at a club that needs points and either get earlier this year or next year. For example if Sam Darcy is the best tall in the draft..how early does someone call his name.. A top10 bid will put them into deficit. Do they wear that or trade their r1 for more points. Maybe they hold and hope no one calls his name till after their R1 but the draft having a drought of talls , a 204cm kid will probably get a bid, especially after the bargains they have had recently.

If the Dogs feel they will need points, depending on how early the bid is we could move up to a late R1 and keep one R2 or perhaps trade all three, and get a Fr2.

Maybe we add another kid of around Holmes standard, have a late pick , elevate Atkins and do we keep a spot open so next year we have a mid year draft to look at the kids that develop.

I’m not sure we necessarily need to be “hitting the draft hard” as some may say. Rather just keep a steady stream of kids coming through whilst retaining the one’s we identify as talented enough to eventually be best 22 players. Which is why I think it’s critical to retain both Narkle and Clark. The rider to that being if one is needed as collateral to secure a young ruck such as Darcy then fair enough.

What I don’t want to see is someone like Narkle requesting a trade as a consequence of not getting games because someone like Higgins or Dahlhaus - who are both on their last legs in terms of both age and output - are being preferenced. It just doesn’t make any sense to me from a list management perspective. I’d argue he should be getting a game in front of those two regardless!

 

[Matthew Jelley]

Just reading through the post about this being a record team in terms of 30+ players and thinking of what the team will look like without them.
Obviously not all going next year but it would be good to see who the replacements are

Hawkins - Ratugolea
Rohan - Jarvis
Smith - Holmes
Blicavs - DeKoning
Tuohy- Clark
Henderson - Kreuger
Duncan - Narkle
Selwood- Constable
Higgins - Evans
Dangerfield- Cooper-Stephens

Will definitely need to see some of these players cementing their spot this year or next and bring in some trades to compliment
That being said I only see Higgins as a big chance to go end of year

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Been thinking on your post even more. Another factor I feel is SalCap. It would not hurt to only add draft contracts for mids..especially since we have those mids that will be hunting for games.

The more this draft seems affected by the lack of form, and the fact that its a mid draft with limited talls, I wonder if we minimise our picks in the draft. We elevate Atkins, that leaves two picks.

Obviously trades can affect it, but unless its a trade for a tall of need then having a quite year , as you say is the way to go. Certainly unless we lose an older player and we replace him with a younger best22 player.

If we lose Constable, Jenkins, Narkle, Stanley...perhaps Tarheny or Jarvis. Its still doesnt create a spot in our best22 for a mid.


I feel your point on the players is a good one. If Clark is still here he will be crying out for a chance. Holmes a year older probably gets nursed along but we have done it before.His size and running ability will see him get chances... and Stephens simply needs to do something next year. He must stay fit and break in a confirm his future. And we have Simpson wanting a spot and I suspect we will continue to annoy people by selecting ZacG.

So as much as some pundits say we must hit the draft, until we clear a road block in the best22, it probably on will create churn.We dont really need numbers we need quality.

We look at a club that needs points and either get earlier this year or next year. For example if Sam Darcy is the best tall in the draft..how early does someone call his name.. A top10 bid will put them into deficit. Do they wear that or trade their r1 for more points. Maybe they hold and hope no one calls his name till after their R1 but the draft having a drought of talls , a 204cm kid will probably get a bid, especially after the bargains they have had recently.

If the Dogs feel they will need points, depending on how early the bid is we could move up to a late R1 and keep one R2 or perhaps trade all three, and get a Fr2.

Maybe we add another kid of around Holmes standard, have a late pick , elevate Atkins and do we keep a spot open so next year we have a mid year draft to look at the kids that develop.

I agree with that although if we are playing sav in the ruck given his poor ruck technique thats clearly a best 22 spot that needs filling-i expect us to trade for an established ruck.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Just reading through the post about this being a record team in terms of 30+ players and thinking of what the team will look like without them.
Obviously not all going next year but it would be good to see who the replacements are

Hawkins - Ratugolea
Rohan - Jarvis
Smith - Holmes
Blicavs - DeKoning
Tuohy- Clark
Henderson - Kreuger
Duncan - Narkle
Selwood- Constable
Higgins - Evans
Dangerfield- Cooper-Stephens

Will definitely need to see some of these players cementing their spot this year or next and bring in some trades to compliment
That being said I only see Higgins as a big chance to go end of year

Higgins is contracted for next year.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

2016 draft.

Pick 26: Brandan Parfitt
Pick 40: Tom Stewart
Pick 43: Esava Ratugolea
Pick 60: Quinton Narkle
Rookie Pick 16: Jack Henry
Cat B Rookie: Mark O'Connor

We nailed that given the picks we had.

We also got zuthrie simpson and JJ (who is now showing promise at WCE)in that rookie draft so we nailed it.

Apart from our great record with mature players as value picks (stewart kelly menegola etc etc) nailing that draft has given us a great base for the future.

 

[Turbocat]

I agree with that although if we are playing sav in the ruck given his poor ruck technique thats clearly a best 22 spot that needs filling-i expect us to trade for an established ruck.

If Sav is not a ruck and he is not a forward..what is he?

Overall. Yes if we can add an obvious #1 ruck then do it and pay the cost if it doesn't not affect our best 22.

How ever Darcy or Freo may say no... and then what. Id consider Chol. He is a FA. He cost nothing but wages. Is 24. At worst he gives us a variation on Stanley and Blitz that may cover us and we look again in 12 months.

 

[gaz love x]

2016 draft.

Pick 26: Brandan Parfitt
Pick 40: Tom Stewart
Pick 43: Esava Ratugolea
Pick 60: Quinton Narkle
Rookie Pick 16: Jack Henry
Cat B Rookie: Mark O'Connor

We nailed that given the picks we had.

And Zach Guthrie (who is a perfectly fine backup in 2021) and Sam Simpson in the rookie draft too

Uh and Timm House and Ryan Abbott but 8/10 ain't bad

Missed Jamaine Jones on the list - make it 8/11 then

 

[thecatattack]

And Zach Guthrie (who is a perfectly fine backup in 2021) and Sam Simpson in the rookie draft too

Uh and Timm House and Ryan Abbott but 8/10 ain't bad

Missed Jamaine Jones on the list - make it 8/11 then

JJ at 48 is a good pick.

 

[gaz love x]

JJ at 48 is a good pick.

I'm just counting players still on the list. Also don't want to be misquoted saying 9/11 ain't bad

 

[Drunkcat]

If we can not get Darcy maybe go after Ceglar won't cost much if we have no money

 

[Lana]

If we can not get Darcy maybe go after Ceglar won't cost much if we have no money

Fits our age profile

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

And Zach Guthrie (who is a perfectly fine backup in 2021) and Sam Simpson in the rookie draft too

Uh and Timm House and Ryan Abbott but 8/10 ain't bad

Missed Jamaine Jones on the list - make it 8/11 then

I didn't mention Zac for a reason, he's no good.

I overlooked Simpson somehow.

 

[DanA]

Just reading through the post about this being a record team in terms of 30+ players and thinking of what the team will look like without them.
Obviously not all going next year but it would be good to see who the replacements are

Hawkins - Ratugolea
Rohan - Jarvis
Smith - Holmes
Blicavs - DeKoning
Tuohy- Clark
Henderson - Kreuger
Duncan - Narkle
Selwood- Constable
Higgins - Evans
Dangerfield- Cooper-Stephens

Will definitely need to see some of these players cementing their spot this year or next and bring in some trades to compliment
That being said I only see Higgins as a big chance to go end of year

To me, it's the quality of Hawkins, Selwood, Dangerfield and Duncan that impossible to replace. To get similar talented players you are essentially looking at getting the best 3-4 players from the next two drafts which isn't realistically obtainable. We can find 3-4 good AFL players, but you don't just get 3-4 great ones over the course of 1-2 years and that's probably what we are going to lose.

 

[Turbocat]

I like this kid playing for the Falcons.. bit of potential I think

Mitchell Knevitt impressed for the Falcons in their tight win. Picture: Martin Keep/AFL Photos via Getty Images

 

[My Tilly]

Darcy with another 15 disposals, 30 hit-outs & 4+ clearance performance for Fremantle.

 

[foxdog50]

Darcy with another 15 disposals, 30 hit-outs & 4+ clearance performance for Fremantle.

He will be in the best ruckman in 2-3 years.... he is exactly what we need... But how much will Darcy be worth in a trade at the end of the year....


My guess. A 1st round pick and a future 2nd round pick and they swap us a pick back

 

[year of the cat]

He will be in the best ruckman in 2-3 years.... he is exactly what we need... But how much will Darcy be worth in a trade at the end of the year....


My guess. A 1st round pick and a future 2nd round pick and they swap us a pick back

Clark and our future first will be what they’ll probably request.