Rumour GFC 2023 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt II

[cats_09]

Yep, this is making an appearance here also, and probably getting more useful as the season draws to a close and this discussion ramps up

 

[D BRIDGE]

I like your theory but the problem is walter will be bid at 2 so gc will have to live trade then but we wont want to trade 7 until we see who gws takes at 6 so we know who is there.

Yeah true he will likely be bid on early and GC will probably make the live trade for point then.

If we have all our ducks in a row and bases covered we can still be the team that trades with them at that point.

Obviously Wells would want to be pretty confident on who will be avail in a couple of picks time come that GC (but hopefully ours now) pick.

These guys seem to know who is gonna go where so I won't be surprised if Wells knows.

Teams will have plans for certain situations... Maybe we will be involved... If we want Sanders we probably need to be in some up trade with either GC, Dees or GWS.

Time will tell. Bring it on.

 

[Two Planks]

If duursma goes to ess for bzt port wont need to trade fr1 for sav (not that they ever were).
Maybe 37 and future 2nd for sav and our future 3rd is the circuit breaker. They can use our future 3rd on sweet and 43 on soldo.
I would like more for sav but doubt we get it.

Richmond won't let a contracted Soldo go for pick 43 in a draft where only 50-55 picks will be used

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I like your theory but the problem is walter will be bid at 2 so gc will have to live trade then but we wont want to trade 7 until we see who gws takes at 6 so we know who is there.

Will he be bid on then though? Daicos slid, Gulden slid. It's only a few places to get to the Suns pick

 

[D BRIDGE]

Will he be bid on then though? Daicos slid, Gulden slid. It's only a few places to get to the Suns pick

I hope so.. but you aint wrong in saying the best players haven't been bid on first in the last couple of drafts.

GWS took Cadman and let gifted Brisbane some points.
North took JHF, then GWS Darcy before Daicos.

It annoys the hell outta me when they just let the best players slide like that and don't make other clubs pay up.

3 clubs this year with picks before Gold Coast's and North may have 2 picks so surely someone bids early... but I certainly would not put my life on it.

 

[Turbocat]

If duursma goes to ess for bzt port wont need to trade fr1 for sav (not that they ever were).
Maybe 37 and future 2nd for sav and our future 3rd is the circuit breaker. They can use our future 3rd on sweet and 43 on soldo.
I would like more for sav but doubt we get it.

Duursma = BZT? I would have thought Ess would have to add to him.

 

[moond0g]

Will he be bid on then though? Daicos slid, Gulden slid. It's only a few places to get to the Suns pick

When the suns pick is at 4 you can almost guarantee he’ll be bid on 2 or 3 surely

 

[moond0g]

With us being linked to nobody, am I right to assume that the club are super confident of the kids coming through and want to give them more opportunity next season. Clark, Dempsey, Conway, Mullin and Kvevitt for example.

Think it’s more a case of not much on the market. Or not anyone that wants to come here at least

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Richmond won't let a contracted Soldo go for pick 43 in a draft where only 50-55 picks will be used

Then they will keep him they wont get more than that

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Will he be bid on then though? Daicos slid, Gulden slid. It's only a few places to get to the Suns pick

I think he will. North need talls desperately and hes the best power forward ive seen come through since the king boys (possibly better). Would have to be bid at 2.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

Do we really need Oliver at all costs?? I get he would be fantastic, but he is not the difference between a flag and not a flag. We have many puzzle pieces to fill at present and handing 2x firsts for Oliver will leave plenty of other deficiencies that we won’t be able to fill.

If he says he wants to come to us we can try to get it done. But I am not convinced he will put us into premiership contention at all.

I actually have a preference to use 1x first on Bailey smith and then push hard for ports future first for esava and then go into next years crop with higher capital.

I don’t see Oliver as a must tho

It's a different era now GC26. Gone are the days where you need to be great on every line to win flags.

The expansion clubs have diluted the talent available, and it's why we're seeing more and more sides win them with players that make you go 'Really?!? that guy is a premiership player!?'

For us, Oliver might just be the difference between another flag or not next year. The defence you'd think will bounce back, the forward line is still as talent laden as ever...it's really just the midfield.

My personal view is to go youth like we did last year, and it's why I'd prefer Smith. It would set us up for another great era IMO when the kids and Smith are all in their prime.

But if the club believes Clayton Oliver is the difference between getting #11 or not, then they'll do it...and they might just be right. Brisbane & Collingwood are not that good.

 

[BigCat1]

Why would you bother taking a pick in the mid 30s for Sav.

I mean Port could very well be 1 key defender away from a flag. They need this make no mistake. It may have already cost them a GF this year by not getting it down with pick 35 odd last year. Nobody talks about that. If we are contending we are better off letting him go into the draft for the opportunity cost of 10 players/picks with only 45-50 players picked now. We lose basically nothing. You don’t offer 650k over 5 years for players you don’t want. He is their number 1 target. They aren’t offering the others anywhere near that Sav type of deal.

That’s the leverage we have this year. For all the sooking about Henry we actually gave up a fair bit for him. Same and Bruhn. I’d be very happy to walk away with a similar deal to the Henry one. I bet we didn’t offer the same money Port have.

 

[STPer18]

Sav polling alright, will drop away no doubt after he misses the games with injury but the club rating him highly isn't just bluster for trade week.

 

[D BRIDGE]

Why would you bother taking a pick in the mid 30s for Sav.

I mean Port could very well be 1 key defender away from a flag. They need this make no mistake. It may have already cost them a GF this year by not getting it down with pick 35 odd last year. Nobody talks about that. If we are contending we are better off letting him go into the draft for the opportunity cost of 10 players/picks with only 45-50 players picked now. You don’t offer 650k over 5 years for players you don’t want. He is there number 1 target. They aren’t offering the others anywhere near that Sav type of deal.

That’s the leverage we have this year. For all the sooking about Henry we actually gave up a fair bit for him. Same and Bruhn. I’d be very happy to walk away with a similar deal to the Henry one. I bet we didn’t offer the same money Port have.

Agreed... they need him... they gotta get it done.

Sav currently 2nd in BnF count through 11 rounds.

 

[Vivy]

Why would you bother taking a pick in the mid 30s for Sav.

I mean Port could very well be 1 key defender away from a flag. They need this make no mistake. It may have already cost them a GF this year by not getting it down with pick 35 odd last year. Nobody talks about that. If we are contending we are better off letting him go into the draft for the opportunity cost of 10 players/picks with only 45-50 players picked now. We lose basically nothing. You don’t offer 650k over 5 years for players you don’t want. He is there number 1 target. They aren’t offering the others anywhere near that Sav type of deal.

That’s the leverage we have this year. For all the sooking about Henry we actually gave up a fair bit for him. Same and Bruhn. I’d be very happy to walk away with a similar deal to the Henry one. I bet we didn’t offer the same money Port have.

I'm inclined to think this way also. The opportunity cost of the 10-15 picks is small. Unless they have identified a player in that range they are confident will be a long term contributor I think they'll play hardball.

With Duursma looking to be going to Essendon it looks like the deal will center around their future 2nd imo.

 

[Bagelboy]

Sav polling alright, will drop away no doubt after he misses the games with injury but the club rating him highly isn't just bluster for trade week.

More trade value for Sav.
Hope Gryan takes it out. How is MOC 8th? Guy takes 17 minutes to pick the ball up off the ground.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

When the suns pick is at 4 you can almost guarantee he’ll be bid on 2 or 3 surely

Can you though? Almost a bit of a pointless d*** move. These guys have to trade with each in the future

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I think he will. North need talls desperately and hes the best power forward ive seen come through since the king boys (possibly better). Would have to be bid at 2.

Yeah, but the bid is still pointless. North not making many friends as it is with the draft assistance

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Yeah, but the bid is still pointless. North not making many friends as it is with the draft assistance

Its not pointless if they would actually want to take him.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Its not pointless if they would actually want to take him.

Are the Suns going to not match? I think that's one we can rule out

 

[strauchnyy]

Why would you bother taking a pick in the mid 30s for Sav.

I mean Port could very well be 1 key defender away from a flag. They need this make no mistake. It may have already cost them a GF this year by not getting it down with pick 35 odd last year. Nobody talks about that. If we are contending we are better off letting him go into the draft for the opportunity cost of 10 players/picks with only 45-50 players picked now. We lose basically nothing. You don’t offer 650k over 5 years for players you don’t want. He is their number 1 target. They aren’t offering the others anywhere near that Sav type of deal.

That’s the leverage we have this year. For all the sooking about Henry we actually gave up a fair bit for him. Same and Bruhn. I’d be very happy to walk away with a similar deal to the Henry one. I bet we didn’t offer the same money Port have.

Spot on. This is what I’ve also been saying.

We won’t be walking away with just a 30s pick for Sav. Quite confident of that

 

[moond0g]

Are the Suns going to not match? I think that's one we can rule out

So at what point is a bid ok?

If he’s the second best player, but locked in to go to GC, is a bid ok at 5? 6? …9? Where do you draw the line?

As long as a club is happy to take the player when they bid, then it’s not a problem. That’s what the system is there for.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

So at what point is a bid ok?

If he’s the second best player, but locked in to go to GC, is a bid ok at 5? 6? …9? Where do you draw the line?

As long as a club is happy to take the player when they bid, then it’s not a problem. That’s what the system is there for.

Good question, I don't know. I just wouldn't rule out the Suns having it as a live pick on the night.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

Why would you bother taking a pick in the mid 30s for Sav.

I mean Port could very well be 1 key defender away from a flag. They need this make no mistake. It may have already cost them a GF this year by not getting it down with pick 35 odd last year. Nobody talks about that. If we are contending we are better off letting him go into the draft for the opportunity cost of 10 players/picks with only 45-50 players picked now. We lose basically nothing. You don’t offer 650k over 5 years for players you don’t want. He is their number 1 target. They aren’t offering the others anywhere near that Sav type of deal.

That’s the leverage we have this year. For all the sooking about Henry we actually gave up a fair bit for him. Same and Bruhn. I’d be very happy to walk away with a similar deal to the Henry one. I bet we didn’t offer the same money Port have.

Agree with this, and it's a very American style of thinking.

They've got divisions in their sports which split up who makes the playoffs, and there's unwritten rules that you never trade within divisions. It can only hurt you contending yourselves.

If we're to believe the inside word on here, it's Ollie Lord that we're after in one way shape or form. Personally I'd take that and run for the hills, but I can understand if some wouldn't.

Wines seems to be the other one, but that's been squashed. Sinn has been mentioned in passing, mainly because he's Victorian.

It might be none of them, but I agree that it won't be 37. Might as well just send him to the draft at that rate.

It's too late for even your George Stevens' types who may slide, and even if they did, we could always just trade back in.

Port are going to have to get creative, or give up a player.

They're similar to us in the sense that next year is probably the last shot with the current crew, and then a little bit of a lull until JHF, Butters, Rozee, Georgiades, etc are all in their prime years and they've got a bankable key forward post Dixon.

 

[CatRiot]

It will be something like this on the Sav trade imho... But I think we will want more

Port
Out: 38 + Duursma
In: BZT + Esava
Bombers
Out: 28 + BZT
In: Duursma + 38
Cats:
Out: Esava
In: 28

 

[Kobe Gryant]

It will be something like this on the Sav trade imho... But I think we will want more

Port
Out: 38 + Duursma
In: BZT + Esava
Bombers
Out: 28 + BZT
In: Duursma + 38
Cats:
Out: Esava
In: 28

I'd take that in a heartbeat.

What do we reckon? 7 + 28 to the draft? Nate Caddy + George Stevens would make for an exciting few years in the future.

Or do we trade for the Dogs 10 + 17 and take 10, 17 & 28 to the draft? Could be an injection of youth that really changes the landscape for us ala Port 2018.

Shadow89 this seems right up your alley, that future side could be looking pretty special in a month or so!!