Rumour GFC 2025 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 2

[Turbocat]

I'd be willing to consider it for players in top 10ish, but then allow for things like no trade clauses, trade posion pills (eg if you trade me my contract increases by 30% pa) or limitations, you can trade me (but limited to certain states, eg home or current state)

I don't think the AFL pays **** you money where things like disrupting a family becomes understandable.

I think something like the first 6 years of a player in the afl could work.. with a substantial bonus for being pushed… The money is getting bigger all the time .. and if the bonus was something like a years wage or at the least the average wage for a young player.. but all those things are just technicalities and once in could be improved upon.

It would certainly spice up trade period

 

[Turbocat]

Blitz will be 35 next year so we have to get someone.

True. Shame its not someone in their 20’s though..

 

[Pure_Ownage]

True. Shame its not someone in their 20’s though..

True but Marshall is the best on the market this year unfortunately

 

[Kobe Gryant]

True. Shame its not someone in their 20’s though..

It's a really, really s**t draft.

If we've got a Humphries or Dempsey stashed away (or even Hunter Holmes) we'll get them regardless.

Marshall could be the difference between a flag or not in the next few years.

That's how barren we are for rucks, and I'm someone who doesn't even really rate the position. It's worth the risk, and the risk even that big.

 

[Reg Hickey]

Mate it’s September 4th and a final hasn’t been played.

So yeah, someone is doing the heavy lifting until October.

True... and yet your club's season is ALREADY over (as usual)

 

[thegerman]

To use a late R1 on a mature player in an area of real need probably makes more sense than adding another chunk of slow burn wood onto the fire in the VFL. Lets face it its probably going to be tough for any kid to break in….

Some of these rucks that are happy to sit behind other make ones head ache. Moyle and Goad and Madden etc . Witts is 33 so Moyle is probably hoping it will no be long but it still could be years. Once they start winning , he is probably going to want to hang around for as long as possible. ..but .. Moyle is 24 next year. He would be ideal. … but he is contracted and GC would not let him go.

It all probably depends on Conway . If he manages to stay fit ..the next year no matter who we recruit he probably plays… and then Heath would be a great option to give relief for a player like Conway.

Its more about what if he doesnt. Then. if we only add a guys like Heath.( Looks a strong body and maybe he is ready to be the #1 in 2026 but who knows..). or the untried verrall or Knobel etc …we could just have no coverage that the MC trust and we end up throwing Sam to the wolves again.

For Conway to be anything after his injury run and a navicular injury is highly doubtful.

He’s lucky to sign a 2 year deal. Unlucky for the club as at this point in time it’s been a massive failure.

 

[CatsDoItBetter]

Thanks to the saints fans for coming in here so cocky, reminds me why I hate your club so much.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

It's a really, really s**t draft.

If we've got a Humphries or Dempsey stashed away (or even Hunter Holmes) we'll get them regardless.

Marshall could be the difference between a flag or not in the next few years.

That's how barren we are for rucks, and I'm someone who doesn't even really rate the position. It's worth the risk, and the risk even that big.

Yeah I agree.
Normally id spew if we traded a r1 for a ruck who is 30 but outside of the many academy players i struggle to name more than 15-20 players that id draft that i think will be really good.
This is the sort of draft where I could live with trading the r1 and r2, take a kid in the 3rd round and match mellor with whatever points we have, elevate mullin and call it a day.
I dont want to touch futures for Marshall though and the problem is that is what at kilda will demand.

 

[Turbocat]

It's a really, really s**t draft.

If we've got a Humphries or Dempsey stashed away (or even Hunter Holmes) we'll get them regardless.

Marshall could be the difference between a flag or not in the next few years.

That's how barren we are for rucks, and I'm someone who doesn't even really rate the position. It's worth the risk, and the risk even that big.

Only time will really tell if its as bad as that. I feel when we look back there will be players that we might have picked …but I do understand your logic. We do not have a lot of weak areas but ruck has been an are of vulnerability for years, and we have not had a heap of luck. And we could draft someone with a R1 that looks a chance and they are lucky to get to 25 games

The thing I doubt is the bold.. I guess just do not rate him , on what I have seen this year , as high as others but as usual , any player we bring to the club I wish well and I hope for the best.

 

[Turbocat]

For Conway to be anything after his injury run and a navicular injury is highly doubtful.

He’s lucky to sign a 2 year deal. Unlucky for the club as at this point in time it’s been a massive failure.

Im not ready to call it yet. He is just reaching the age where he should be starting to play. Yes its been disappointing . The next 12 to 24 months will be the defining assessment.

 

[thegerman]

Im not ready to call it yet. He is just reaching the age where he should be starting to play. Yes its been disappointing . The next 12 to 24 months will be the defining assessment.

I’m 90% sure it’s a bust. Would be gladly surprised if he turns it around.

 

[Interdimensional Bigfoot]

Im not ready to call it yet. He is just reaching the age where he should be starting to play. Yes its been disappointing . The next 12 to 24 months will be the defining assessment.

That's me in the row boat.

 

[CatsDoItBetter]

Im not ready to call it yet. He is just reaching the age where he should be starting to play. Yes its been disappointing . The next 12 to 24 months will be the defining assessment.

He would need to make big improvements next season or he’ll be gone. It’s a long way back for him as he’s missed so much football as well as most pre seasons.

 

[D BRIDGE]

What would people hand over in a trade to get RoMa in right now?

I wish live trading were a thing... just for this very occasion.

 

[Turbocat]

He would need to make big improvements next season or he’ll be gone. It’s a long way back for him as he’s missed so much football as well as most pre seasons.

Agreed but it has happened before. probably not that much different to Gawn atpit but as you say , he has reached a tipping point

The harsh reality is most big kids are drafted too young as we have no choice ..but no doubt I would have preferred him to have played the year in the VFL. Missing games not ideal.

I still probably prefer the look of Edwards as being more our type ..and the Stanley injury probably has ensures we pay a price and get a ruck… which will potential affect if he plays.

 

[Turbocat]

What would people hand over in a trade to get RoMa in right now?

I wish live trading were a thing... just for this very occasion.

Probably why its a good thing that it is not in. Imagine being able to lease Xerri. Id imagine we would give North our r1 for his use it the finals. How much for gawn.

To get Marshall early …yes but im sure we would pay a premium

 

[iameviljez]

I think something like the first 6 years of a player in the afl could work.. with a substantial bonus for being pushed… The money is getting bigger all the time .. and if the bonus was something like a years wage or at the least the average wage for a young player.. but all those things are just technicalities and once in could be improved upon.

It would certainly spice up trade period

End of the day, this isn’t North America where employees have near zero rights, and personally I don’t want it to be. I think the National Draft is enough of a concession to equalisation.

 

[iameviljez]

Probably why its a good thing that it is not in. Imagine being able to lease Xerri. Id imagine we would give North our r1 for his use it the finals. How much for gawn.

To get Marshall early …yes but im sure we would pay a premium

Why not grab Bont and Dale while we are at it now

 

[Turbocat]

Thinking on Free Agency comp…. does any other sport competition in the world have comp for Free agents?

Look at StKilda… they mate hate FSon and academies but they certainly have not had a problem with Prioity Picks ..and Free Agency compensation..

The lose Battle and get a comp pick that gets hem Tauru .. then this year this add JackSil. Two for one.

 

[D BRIDGE]

Probably why its a good thing that it is not in. Imagine being able to lease Xerri. Id imagine we would give North our r1 for his use it the finals. How much for gawn.

To get Marshall early …yes but im sure we would pay a premium

Not talking about a loan... talking about trading onto list ongoing.

 

[Turbocat]

End of the day, this isn’t North America where employees have near zero rights, and personally I don’t want it to be. I think the National Draft is enough of a concession to equalisation.

The trading of players without their say so is hardly new ..it used to happen often in the past. The draft is more impactful to an 18 year old on min wage to my mind than doing the same thing to some 20-22 year old kid that is in the system that is earning a more professional wage.

 

[iameviljez]

The trading of players without their say so is hardly new ..it used to happen often in the past. The draft is more impactful to an 18 year old on min wage to my mind than doing the same thing to some 20-22 year old kid that is in the system that is earning a more professional wage.

Not about the money IMO - it's about the age.

18 is a great age to spread your wings and try something new. By 22, you're a bit more settled - obviously nothing like your late 20s, but still.

I don't think players have been traded against their will in the post-draft era?

 

[iameviljez]

Thinking on Free Agency comp…. does any other sport competition in the world have comp for Free agents?

No, it doesn't - but that said, I'm a strong believer that Free Agency compo is allocated very wrongly, in that it massively disadvantages clubs who have the pick directly after the FA loser team. If, for example, West Coast gets p2 for Oscar Allen, then the major loser out of that is Richmond - a club that wasn't even involved in the trade.

I think FA compo is necessary to stop teams from being 'stuck' at the bottom for years and years, but it's done so badly atm.

 

[Turbocat]

Not talking about a loan... talking about trading onto list ongoing.

I know …. trade them out when season has ended type deal…. Its all just a thought bubble isnt it.

If we actually could do it …id imagine it would have an affect on the finals outcome. Every club would be pressured to improve their list. Look at the players linked with Brisbane at the moment . If fit would we want them having the choice to select the players linked with them ..anotehr KPF , another ruck , another CHB …etc

 

[Turbocat]

Not about the money IMO - it's about the age.

18 is a great age to spread your wings and try something new. By 22, you're a bit more settled - obviously nothing like your late 20s, but still.

I don't think players have been traded against their will in the post-draft era?

Every now and then we hear stories of players that have been pressured to go but its not clear or out in the open. But I would suspect if one looked they have been given big go or spend a lot of time on your min contract in the vfl type ultimatums.

Certainly it was the pre draft era I was referencing as thing back then were less obscured. You had guys traded in the middle of the season…so it was pretty obvious. It was a bit dfferent back then. I mean some guys were leased. Scarlett to SMelb for example.

I see no absolute difference between 18 and 22 . Its probably more dependant on the kid ..and their background. To shift some kid to WC just coming out of school etc ..no choice is no difference than trading a kid on your list to WC for a pick. They might even be more able to handle it better as they have been in the system.