Gibbs requests trade to Adelaide

[Team DJ]

Yeah lets ship Dear off ......KPF's are just so easy to find ......aggressive, mobile, ruck capabilities ......yeah, pretty much pick them up anytime

Do you guys actually think b4 you post ? ........or is it whoever is not top of mind, or just who's currently not in best 26?

I am sorry I wasnt aware that i said lets trade Dear in this post. I thought that i was just providing some background on why Dear slipped into a later round for us to select.

My mistake

 

[CrowHop]

You could never be blamed for it being a bad deal unless your 5 best players did ACLs and you missed the 8.

Freo, Essendon and GC will likely leap frog us next year (especially if we lose Gibbs) our 2017 second would still nab you pick 19-23

Are you trying to convince us, or are you genuinely believing it? I'm starting to become ok with it. A ten pick slide, even early in the draft, could hopefully turn out to be negligible.


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[Jars458]

Danger uncontracted. Gibbs contracted. That's what brings their valuations closer than they should be. If Gibbs was uncontracted we'd be getting him for peanuts.

For Danger and Kerridge we essentially got Milera, Menzel and Gore.
Gibbs looks like costing us Pick 13, and a 4-8 pick downgrade next year.

Yep that looks ok, risky that we will finish high and Carlton finish low.

Lets say its 13 and 15 (top four finish) next year for Gibbs and say 23 (Carlton bottom 5) next year you would probably take it.

 

[hey shorty]

I'm sick of hearing 'We got less for Danger blah blah blah'. Yep we did get stiffed a bit in the deal but to get a guy with a 3yr contract still in play and with possibly 3/4 good years left, you gotta pay up.

 

[Sanders]

I'm sick of hearing 'We got less for Danger blah blah blah'. Yep we did get stiffed a bit in the deal but to get a guy with a 3yr contract still in play and with possibly 3/4 good years left, you gotta pay up.

You don't gotta pay 2 firsts for a guy with only 3/4 years left

For that price you target someone younger

 

[Coopers]

Lets just go and get Rocky. One early second could see it done.

Yep Brisbane would totally trade their best player and captain for a 2nd round pick.

Totally.

 

[baldandbroke]

This is going to be unpopular.

People seem to still want it both ways. Go aggresively for a flag, but avoid the fall.

Yeah chase gibbs... but but what about our future.

Our time is now. Weve crafted a list to challenge now. Danger left a hole and i hate him for it.

I said last year we had to replace him NOW or wed struggle this year. Many thought we'd be fine. Ultimately we had our moments but our mids were found wanting when it mattered most.

We must improve our midfield to contend. Immediately.

If we pay overs from out future... we have a fall. We get a chance to rebuild.

Stop being the mentality many claim to despise in the club. We are the club. How we respond to this trade will have impact on future big decisions . Lets respond in a manner than encourages an appropriate level of risk taking.

Well said. Look at how the Hawks handled the players leaving ... I think our club understands the difference.

Be mature, improve your list - break some eggs, make your omelette.

 

[Drakescoffeecake]

Yep Brisbane would totally trade their best player and captain for a 2nd round pick.

Totally.

See: Mitchell

 

[Sanders]

Yep Brisbane would totally trade their best player and captain for a 2nd round pick.

Totally.

You've totally been keeping up with the many many media reports saying they'll take anything under 30?

Totally right?

 

[Paladin]

It's not a 4-8 ******* pick downgrade

It's just as likely to be 12-15 and those picks first / second round pick downgrades not 3rd/4th

It could very easily be a 4-8 pick downgrade.

 

[whitey_1975]

**** carlton.

 

[CrowinNT]

You don't gotta pay 2 firsts for a guy with only 3/4 years left

For that price you target someone younger

Yep a Heeney and a few additional pics and a good $ contract

 

[spexau]

It's not a 4-8 ******* pick downgrade

It's just as likely to be 12-15 and those picks first / second round pick downgrades not 3rd/4th

It's a risky move. Ideally we finish top 4 and Carlton finish bottom 4. Which means our 14-18 pick becomes 19-23. And if the draft is as good and as deep as they say there's every chance that the 10-30 ranked players are all rated equally which helps mitigate the risk further.

 

[StickerMan]

You don't gotta pay 2 firsts for a guy with only 3/4 years left

For that price you target someone younger

It all depends on what you get back.

If I give you a crisp $100 bill, and you give me 4 x $20 notes and a $5 note, did I spend $100?

 

[Sanders]

It could very easily be a 4-8 pick downgrade.

It's minimum 12 picks this year.

What else do your magic beans tell you about next year?

 

[Sanders]

It all depends on what you get back.

If I give you a crisp $100 bill, and you give me 4 x $20 notes and a $5 note, did I spend $100?

Oh noes. Maths!

 

[hey shorty]

You don't gotta pay 2 firsts for a guy with only 3/4 years left

For that price you target someone younger

Yep we are paying a touch over the odds here no doubt, and I've said previously I'd rather Rockliff. IF we play in a GF or win a flag it'll be forgiven though, and we have a great deal of talent in the 20-25yo basket to make a good run.

Still think someone else might be in play though.

 

[Sam_Malone]

I'm sick of hearing 'We got less for Danger blah blah blah'. Yep we did get stiffed a bit in the deal but to get a guy with a 3yr contract still in play and with possibly 3/4 good years left, you gotta pay up.

No you don't.

Gibbs was the party who approached us to come home. We didn't approach him. Its nice to know Gibbs wants to play fir us and will help but we can not put all of our eggs into the one basket by paying overs. 2 first rounds picks (1 an unknown pick) is very dangerous.

His manager must talk to Carlton and ask for a compensation trade.

Pick 13 and pick 26 with 53 getting swapped for 45. That is maximum we should pay.

 

[Sanders]

It's a risky move. Ideally we finish top 4 and Carlton finish bottom 4. Which means our 14-18 pick becomes 19-23. And if the draft is as good and as deep as they say there's every chance that the 10-30 ranked players are all rated equally which helps mitigate the risk further.

Ideally my ass.

Ask Port about all those future first trades that were going to be bargains when they shoot yo the ladder

Or GWS who took the Phil Davis compo pick on the basis we'd suck in 2012

 

[Juveroo]

He's suggesting:

ADE Out: 2016 1st Round Selection, 2017 First Round Selection
CAR Out: B. Gibbs, 2016 2nd Round Selection, 2017 Second Round Selection

You'd take that.

If this is what Carlton wants then just do the deal. Get this over and done with!

 

[CrowHop]

What if it's a downgrade from 15 to, say, 21?

That's the point. It could be a few spots, it could be almost a full round. What's our risk appetite ?


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[xchadders]

well. this has turned to crap.

 

[Coopers]

You've totally been keeping up with the many many media reports saying they'll take anything under 30?

Totally right?

Bodaciously no. No way, don't believe it. We'd be mad not to be all over it.

 

[Anzacpaul]

Deal still not done? Should've just hibernated 'till 1:30pm tomorrow

 

[Sanders]

Bodaciously no. No way, don't believe it. We'd be mad not to be all over it.

Agree. Lot of people been saying that

If Brisbane want a firesale let's shop