Harry O'brien vs Brady Rawlings

[100action]

Based on the 2010 season who would you have? or Who would you have picked in your AA side?

HOB is a damaging HBF in the best team.
Brady Rawlings has accumulated much more disposals than HOB and has done a better job in shutting down opponents imo.

 

[The Panther]

Rawlings is a solid back pocket plumber. A solid B Grader, with no elite traits.
Harry on the other hand is a bonafide A Grader, explosive pace, an elite ability through traffic & an offensive weapon from the HB line.

I don't know if Mick will ever try it, but he has the potential to be a gun midfielder in the mould of Daniel Kerr.

 

[SweetLeftFoot]

Rawlings is a solid back pocket plumber. A solid B Grader, with no elite traits.
Harry on the other hand is a bonafide A Grader, explosive pace, an elite ability through traffic & an offensive weapon from the HB line.

I don't know if Mick will ever try it, but he has the potential to be a gun midfielder in the mould of Daniel Kerr.

He has elite defensive traits.

He has shown this year in, year out.

he is an elite defensive player and as your coach knows, defense wins premierships.

I like O'Brien, but he's a one way player who needs to get off the PR sauce.

 

[Johnny619]

Harry O had the better year and will only get better

 

[Better Loosen Up]

After attending many North and Collingwood games this year (girlfriend goes for Collingwood), I would say Brady, just.

Sure, O'Brien shows the odd flashy display but generally the majority of his time is spent filling space and directing team mates.

His skills are not bad however he has a tendancy to bomb the ball long to a contest where the ball gets turned over more often than not.

Brady, whilst he isn't the most skillful player (at times he's far from it), has a fantastic ability to shut down the most dangerous small forwards in the game whilst at the same time getting plenty of the ball himself and providing a lot of run out of defense. He's an unfashionable type of Footballer who just goes about his business, often unnoticed.

Call me biased, whatever! At the end of the day, neither player are world beaters though one of them thinks he is.

 

[The Panther]

His skills are not bad

Harry is a beautiful field kick.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

Harry is a beautiful field kick.

This is AFL not NFL.

So I suppose he hits his target every time then?

 

[MightyMark]

Rawlings is a solid back pocket plumber. A solid B Grader, with no elite traits.
Harry on the other hand is a bonafide A Grader, explosive pace, an elite ability through traffic & an offensive weapon from the HB line.

I don't know if Mick will ever try it, but he has the potential to be a gun midfielder in the mould of Daniel Kerr.

As a backman I would prefer Harry O over Brady Rawlings, but only because of his run, probably needs more than one good season under his belt before I would say he is a bonafide A Grader though.

 

[Bulldog1954]

Rawlings gets more of the ball and plays tighter.

 

[lionaround]

Can't believe this need to be discussed, Rawlings by a country mile.

Absolute champion player that has the guts to run all day, tag a key opposition player and be a general down back. One of the most underrated players in the game.

 

[beerbandit]

WTF does everyone have to compare someone to a Collingwood player????????????????????????????? Brady Rawlings v Corey Enright would be better.

 

[Boris the Contradiction]

PATHETIC THREAD, EMBARASSING FOR THE OP.

You are just clearly a Collingwood basher who thinks that it will feel better if you manage to get a website full of Collingwood haters to agree with you in a comparison between a player who plays for the magpies and a player who plays for an insignificant club which they have no emotion for.

Rawlings would be more suited to a back pocket, not a flank, he doesn't create run, he is an accumulating stopper. Compare him to Corey Enright, that's the player he would replace if he was going to make it.

 

[100action]

PATHETIC THREAD, EMBARASSING FOR THE OP.

You are just clearly a Collingwood basher who thinks that it will feel better if you manage to get a website full of Collingwood haters to agree with you in a comparison between a player who plays for the magpies and a player who plays for an insignificant club which they have no emotion for.

Rawlings would be more suited to a back pocket, not a flank, he doesn't create run, he is an accumulating stopper. Compare him to Corey Enright, that's the player he would replace if he was going to make it.

position does not matter-
see selection of Dane Swan on HFF last year
see selection of James Frawley in back pocket (yes he has played on some smalls but still not enough to be a "back pocket")
see selection of Barry Hall in the forward pocket
etc

on that basis I would take out HOB before Frawley or Enright to put Rawlings in. You could make a case to put Enright on the HBF anyway.

In regards to the bold if you read SLF post you would notice he says Rawlings provides "drive off half back" .

 

[Boris the Contradiction]

In regards to the bold if you read SLF post you would notice he says Rawlings provides "drive off half back" .

Yeh he doesn't. He is a stopper and he accumulates. "Drive off half back" is very different, he is not a running half back.

Positions should matter. O'Brien definitely deserves his spot anyway but he is not the one who would make way for Rawlings.

 

[RandB]

I went with Harry O but Rawlings has had a great year. IMO O'Brien is one of the most important players to a team atm and when you consider the Pies finished top that is saying something.

 

[The Panther]

Would Rawlings get a game for Collingwood? Who would he displace?

 

[Ram-Man]

Brady Rawlings is very underrated -- but Harry is far more damaging and athletic and versatile IMO - so Harry.

 

[Joshen]

Statistics comparison (each show some different stats):

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/...id1=155&tid2=5&pid2=1566&type=A&fid1=S&fid2=S

http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web...5&year1=2010&tid2=104&pid2=2005036&year2=2010

 

[B-Rock]

Its funny how Harry took Brady's spot in the A.A side yet Rawlings averaged just about twice as many disposals as him per game.

When you consider that Rawlings is also a far better defensive player, its funny listening to Collingwood supporters try to justify this as anything other than a superior image. He had TWICE as many disposals people. Not slightly more.. DOUBLE.

I know he is a Brazilian and a good story and all but come on. You can't argue with those stats.

 

[BONG RIPS MKII]

i'd take 15 touches from harry over 50 from rawlings

rawlings is just a mediocre back pocket player, harry has flair

rawlings is so average that if their was an average contest he'd finish right in the middle, that's how ordinary he is

 

[robertg22]

Frankly I was surprised Rawlings was in the squad. That says enough

 

[Rumblah#16]

Frankly I was surprised Rawlings was in the squad. That says enough

But you'd probably be surprised if the Collingwood 22 were named, with Ablett named on the bench in place of Toovey.

 

[The Panther]

side yet Rawlings averaged just about twice as many disposals as him per game.

You do realize that Rawlings spent numerous time in the middle this year? I wonder if Harry would leak goals to a 2nd year player when Sidebottom tore apart Rawlings this season.

 

[robertg22]

But you'd probably be surprised if the Collingwood 22 were named, with Ablett named on the bench in place of Toovey.

What are you basing this on champ?

 

[Rumblah#16]

What are you basing this on champ?

The fact that Rawlings had a great year, and you being surprised of his inclusion in the squad, "champ".