Analysis Hawks 2022 Hypothetical trades (read the pinned post)

[Strapping Young Lad]

Firstly, the "No Kane Cornes

Kane Cornes

Age

41

Ht

183cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.5

5star

K

12.5

5star

HB

11.0

5star

M

5.2

5star

T

3.3

5star

CL

2.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.2

3star

" Rule is back

 

[BIGHAWK23]

Wonder if any club would take our 2x40's for a mid 30s pick, should be enough to land Meek.

Still take 6,18,24 and the Mitchell pick to the draft. While landing Amon and Meek

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Where are we getting 18?

 

[TylerDurden]

Does Meek stay now??

 

[TylerDurden]

Where are we getting 18?

JOM

 

[JaegarTime]

Freo staff are on the shrooms if their media team is anything to go by.

‘He has the juice’ hahaha

 

[BIGHAWK23]

JOM

Is it actually happening?

 

[Noel Gallagher]

Is Hutchy paying these goons to sit there for hours and talk dribble and make up fantasy trades or is this role being sold to them as a career development opportunity….. ie- you can use me as a reference if you put in a couple of weeks of work for free.

Cooney takes all the crap slots that no one else wants

 

[Mercy Seat]

This is genuinely annoying.

There's a happy medium between playing hardball and being an absolute doormat, and we didn't owe Brisbane anything more to help them win a flag. Pick 48 and a future 4th which is unlikely to get used is a spit in the face imo.

Brisbane were trying to protect compensation pick 35. I can't see a scenario where we would have done any better than 48, otherwise everyone would have been better off walking with FA.

 

[theiaofseed]

Is it actually happening?

Yes

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[MrPremiership]

So Meek and JOM get done today you'd think?

When is today's cut off? So that the AFL can hold trades tomorrow for hype

 

[Ballsontheline]

Depends how you define backwards.

If we're talking about building a team to win the Cup and set up a period of success, then spending four years incrementally climbing the ladder and peaking when blokes like Sic are 32 is a bit of a false dawn. If a short sharp drop off while we get 50 odd games into Ward/McDonald/future picks means we're competing when Sic is 30 odd is it really going backwards?

Everyone loves Geelong at the moment - but if I were a fan I'd be pretty pissed that for a decade they've been defining success as making a prelim and have one Premiership to show for it right as Danger/Selwood/Hawkins depart. Sure there's youth, but there's also a core group of very old players who are about to leave and going to be hard to replace.

It's noticeable in all this that noones got the Cats as favourites for next year.

I couldn't agree with you more.
I mean (backwards) in terms of a short sharp drop off next year compared to the amount of wins we register.
Also the draft being very deep next year. If we are giving away 3rd rounders I would prefer it's this year and not next.

 

[Brishawk]

Jai Newcombe was Hawthorns best clearance player by a street. He might not have them on numbers but he dominates them on quality.

And you do you think the opposition will focus on if omeara and Mitchell aren’t digging in winning clearances and contested possessions? Do you think it will impact newc’s quality?

I have no doubt newc can be a top clearance mid but life is a lot easier when you don’t have to try and win every hard ball for your side because there are two other guys who do it really well.

Clearances



Contested possessions


Score involvements

 

[HairyO]

Really? The kids drove Hawthorn this year. And they are another year older next year. No one knows who they are yet but things are not that bleak.

Gunston 17 goals in a 5 games period, avg 2 a game over 16 games. Lewis was great but injured often. Breust 40 from 21 games.

Mitchell only had half the time in the middle but was our 2nd best midfielder.

Sicily carried the defence. Richmond kicked 20? goals in the 3 quarters Sicily was in the middle and forward, and barely scored when he was back.

McEvoy we won 5, lost 3 from when he played.

Our kids are growing but without our key older players we are a VFL team.

 

[Blackhawk42]

If Lobb is indeed on the move then I reckon we miss out on Meek.

I wonder what the ruck back up plan is.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Pick 48 could be mid 30's after F/S.

 

[Tony3163]

If Lobb is indeed on the move then I reckon we miss out on Meek.

I wonder what the ruck back up plan is.

Not sure if Meek deal is off, usually requests can fulfilled but if so, we draft a best available back-up to Reeves, Lynch and develop Ramsden (sp?) - after filling other needs.

 

[butlers hawks]

Pick 48 could be mid 30's after F/S.

this is the part that confuses people

they think because of the earlier picks sliding out that all do when actually the later ones come in because of the picks being eaten

 

[TylerDurden]

If Lobb is indeed on the move then I reckon we miss out on Meek.

I wonder what the ruck back up plan is.

Was thinking this. They may hold him to the contract.

 

[SSSSSS]

Wonder if we go after a Paddy Dow

15

Paddy Dow

Age

24

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

7.0

3star

HB

7.1

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.6

4star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

3star

CL

0.0

1star

D

12.4

4star

K

5.8

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

2.8

5star

CL

2.6

5star

to add a body in to the midfield mix. Would prefer Xavier O.

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

If Lobb is indeed on the move then I reckon we miss out on Meek.

I wonder what the ruck back up plan is.

Grab Meek for less next year?

 

[RoughandLove]

Freo has entered the JOM race


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[Blackhawk42]

Grab Meek for less next year?

Likely, however that doesn't help us in 2023.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

48 AND a future fourth for Gunners. Does that mean we played hardball?

 

[Blackhawk42]

Freo has entered the JOM race


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Makes so much sense with Mundy gone.

 

[killerspud]

Freo has entered the JOM race


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Woo hoo let the bidding commence

 

[Mercy Seat]

And you do you think the opposition will focus on if omeara and Mitchell aren’t digging in winning clearances and contested possessions? Do you think it will impact newc’s quality?

I have no doubt newc can be a top clearance mid but life is a lot easier when you don’t have to try and win every hard ball for your side because there are two other guys who do it really well.

Clearances

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Contested possessions
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Score involvements
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The protection that the harder bodies of JOM and Tom have, plus the fact they usually take the better opposition players has allowed for Newc to become the player he has. It'll be a mammoth task next year, but I have no doubt that throwing them in the deep end now will pay of dividends in the future.