Analysis Hawks 2022 Hypothetical trades (read the pinned post)

[Strapping Young Lad]

Firstly, the "No Kane Cornes

Kane Cornes

Age

41

Ht

183cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.5

5star

K

12.5

5star

HB

11.0

5star

M

5.2

5star

T

3.3

5star

CL

2.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.2

3star

" Rule is back

 

[Steven Tyler]

Sorry but it wont be offered. Yes he is worth that to us fans but at his age, despite kicking 40 goals again, no one is offering a top 10 and potentially not even a first. One of those worth more to the team who has him than he would be on the market deals

I know

 

[Wingnut19]

What the hell you want to trade off our next captain and best player, c’mon this makes no sense at all. Rubbish post, give yourself an uppercut

Did I say I wanted to? What’s the thread title?

 

[Topiary]

Only thing might be that the conversation has already happened to suggest they mightn't offer him after next season. If thats the case then they look to help him get to his club of choice. Similar to when they moved on Mitchell and Lewis it might be less than we will all enjoy or we might have to sweeten the pot to help the package coming back

Not my info.

 

[WWSD]

Not my info.

I see this playing out one of two ways; Gunston will either sign a 2 year deal or be content with everything he’s done in his career and retire. I don’t see him playing elsewhere.

 

[Coach Killer]

Lewis and Sicily would yield the draft capital we want in this years draft and next years draft. 2 top 5 picks this year and next year.

It wasn’t that long ago that we traded a young Croad and McPharlin (who both went on to become AA) that yielded us two all time great champions of the club. (Hodge & Mitchell)

Schwabby is very much unheralded for his vision and decisions that led to the club winning 4 flags. Mitchell is well aware as it was Schwabby that gave him the opportunity. Hopefully Sam has the vision and fortitude to do the same.

Picks 1 and 2 (or 3) in this years draft plus next years draft along with our early picks may well be the catalyst for another golden era.

Wardlaw, Sheezle and Tsatas or a similar combination this year plus a similar talented haul next year will almost guarantee Hawks are competing for multiple flags in 2025 and beyond. We currently have players on our list to cover for the loss of Sicily and Lewis.

Coach Killler.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Disagree. Cripple us from what? Pick 7 to a top 3 pick.we ain’t getting a side to compete by taking pick 7 and 24 to draft every year. We already have a good base to build on. Keep blooding the youth next year onwards and take our lumps and get a couple of top 3 picks in the draft.

I hate these rubbish “we have to be really really s**t so that we can then hopefully be good” takes.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Lewis and Sicily would yield the draft capital we want in this years draft and next years draft. 2 top 5 picks this year and next year.

It wasn’t that long ago that we traded a young Croad and McPharlin (who both went on to become AA) that yielded us two all time great champions of the club. (Hodge & Mitchell)

Schwabby is very much unheralded for his vision and decisions that led to the club winning 4 flags. Mitchell is well aware as it was Schwabby that gave him the opportunity. Hopefully Sam has the vision and fortitude to do the same.

Picks 1 and 2 (or 3) in this years draft plus next years draft along with our early picks may well be the catalyst for another golden era.

Wardlaw, Sheezle and Tsatas or a similar combination this year plus a similar talented haul next year will almost guarantee Hawks are competing for multiple flags in 2025 and beyond. We currently have players on our list to cover for the loss of Sicily and Lewis.

Coach Killler.

Speaking of s**t takes.

You can’t be a legit poster.

 

[nelk boys]

Lewis and Sicily would yield the draft capital we want in this years draft and next years draft. 2 top 5 picks this year and next year.

It wasn’t that long ago that we traded a young Croad and McPharlin (who both went on to become AA) that yielded us two all time great champions of the club. (Hodge & Mitchell)

Schwabby is very much unheralded for his vision and decisions that led to the club winning 4 flags. Mitchell is well aware as it was Schwabby that gave him the opportunity. Hopefully Sam has the vision and fortitude to do the same.

Picks 1 and 2 (or 3) in this years draft plus next years draft along with our early picks may well be the catalyst for another golden era.

Wardlaw, Sheezle and Tsatas or a similar combination this year plus a similar talented haul next year will almost guarantee Hawks are competing for multiple flags in 2025 and beyond. We currently have players on our list to cover for the loss of Sicily and Lewis.

Coach Killler.

Who's our next promising key forward after Lewis?

Don't say Kosi

Didn't Sicily just sign a five year deal and our next captain?

 

[wahawk]

Twomey said rivals are aware he wants to extend his contract beyond next year.

I could argue you are speculating about Twomey being speculative.

The point of the post was to highlight that it gets a mention every year. Not for you to get offended.


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I’m not offended by your post. Just pointing out that Breust did not say anything, as you’ve implied, it purely speculation on Twomey’s behalf

 

[cryptor]

I've said before that Breust shows all the signs of a player that can keep playing quality footy well into his 30's. He's incredibly durable and his main competitive advantages (footy smarts, goal kicking, etc) won't really drop off with age.

He's contracted to the end of next year. Happy to see the club extend him to end of 2024 right now on the back of this year. That takes him through to 300 games if he stays fit and in form.

If another club wants to offer more years/money and he's keen to take it (and I doubt his position on wanting to stay at the Hawks has actually changed) then I'm happy for the club to do the trade providing it's worth it for our club. You'd expect it would be a club in finals contention wanting to get him, so they've probably got a late first rounder burning a hole in their pocket. Some may say that's overs for a 31 year old. I'd say that's fair for a 40 goal per year small forward that will realistically play around that level for the next 2-3 years, if not more.

We essentially traded our first pick (pushed back to pick 21 due to expansion picks) for Brian Lake

Brian Lake

Age

42

Ht

195cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

5.3

4star

M

6.5

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

163.0

3star

No current season stats available

D

4.6

1star

K

2.6

1star

HB

2.0

2star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.6

3star

at the end of 2012. Yes, there was some other pick swaps in there that made it better value, but Lake was also not of the same upstanding character and complete professional that Breust is. Nor was Lake as reliable in the years prior to his recruitment in terms of form and durability (or after to be fair). That said, knowing now in hindsight what his recruitment for 3 years gave our club during our premiership window, he was easily worth a late first rounder and more. Breust could be the same "last piece of the puzzle" for a club in contention, but with far less risk attached. That's why I wouldn't accept anything less than a late first rounder.

 

[hfc70]

Breust (correct spelling). He is staying.

 

[WWSD]

Have Breust and Gunston given any inclination at any stage that they wan’t to leave? The only way to end this speculation once and for all is for them to front the media tomorrow and state their intentions.

 

[WWSD]

Lewis and Sicily would yield the draft capital we want in this years draft and next years draft. 2 top 5 picks this year and next year.

It wasn’t that long ago that we traded a young Croad and McPharlin (who both went on to become AA) that yielded us two all time great champions of the club. (Hodge & Mitchell)

Schwabby is very much unheralded for his vision and decisions that led to the club winning 4 flags. Mitchell is well aware as it was Schwabby that gave him the opportunity. Hopefully Sam has the vision and fortitude to do the same.

Picks 1 and 2 (or 3) in this years draft plus next years draft along with our early picks may well be the catalyst for another golden era.

Wardlaw, Sheezle and Tsatas or a similar combination this year plus a similar talented haul next year will almost guarantee Hawks are competing for multiple flags in 2025 and beyond. We currently have players on our list to cover for the loss of Sicily and Lewis.

Coach Killler.

Username checks out

 

[Buckemenico]

Gunston should be captain next year

 

[derp de derp]

I’m not offended by your post. Just pointing out that Breust did not say anything, as you’ve implied, it purely speculation on Twomey’s behalf

I don’t understand how you surmise that from me writing AFL.com said Bruest is considering his options.

But good luck


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[perrdan86]

Geez, i wouldnt mind hearing a few tidbits from Roughnlove about what he's hearing at the moment and list moves etc.
It's been a long time, or so it feels anyway.

 

[rei154]

Geez, i wouldnt mind hearing a few tidbits from Roughnlove about what he's hearing at the moment and list moves etc.
It's been a long time, or so it feels anyway.

I can't wait for the return of the king!

 

[Mercy Seat]

Geez, i wouldnt mind hearing a few tidbits from Roughnlove about what he's hearing at the moment and list moves etc.
It's been a long time, or so it feels anyway.

He might be reporting Essendon intel from now for all we know

 

[WWSD]

Gunston should be captain next year

As much as I want Gunston to be the club captain, it probably should’ve happened 3-4 years ago. I think it will be Sicily as captain next year with O’Meara being the vice captain.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Speaking of s**t takes.

You can’t be a legit poster.

I think it’s KOLOKOTRONIS’ final form.

 

[RoughandLove]

Bruhn & Gold!


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[Nastyfish]

I think it’s KOLOKOTRONIS’ final form.

I had the same thought

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Bruhn & Gold!


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[TylerDurden]

Bruhn & Gold!


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Boom.

 

[chopflop]

Bruhn & Gold!


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Goldy???