Headliners Next Week

[musha_13]

Just thought i'd let everybody know that next Wednesday night on Headliners (Fox Footy), the story of our creation is on.

 

[Alex99]

Just thought i'd let everybody know that next Wednesday night on Headliners (Fox Footy), the story of our creation is on.

Sweet, I wonder if it will be the real story about how Port Adelaide Magpies tried to shaft the SANFL or the propaganda the Victorians want us to believe about how we wanted a lot more concessions before we would enter a team.

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[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

I wonder if Kerls will talk about how he lost Darren Jarman to Hawthorn?

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Sweet, I wonder if it will be the real story about how Port Adelaide Magpies tried to shaft the SANFL or the propaganda the Victorians want us to believe about how we wanted a lot more concessions before we would enter a team.

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Seeing as the whole series of Headliners this year, apart from the Crimmins story, has been based around Gary Linnell's book Football Ltd, exepct it to be pretty much like Chapter 20, The End of the Cold War. Linnell has been interviewed in all the stories so far. I guess we aren't going to hear from the two guys who started it all Weber and Schwab.

 

[- PC -]

I guess we aren't going to hear from the two guys who started it all Weber and Schwab.

I will assume you are aware of circumstances , but unless Doris Stokes is a guest interviewer ...no we wont be hearing from them

 

[Brad-clare]

I wonder if Kerls will talk about how he lost Darren Jarman to Hawthorn?

Has that story ever come out??

 

[rayven]

Just thought i'd let everybody know that next Wednesday night on Headliners (Fox Footy), the story of our creation is on.

The adverts appear disjointed let alone the whole program.

 

[DaveW]

Was hoping they'd get round to us eventually.

Wonder how many parts there'll be?

They devoted three parts to each of the Swans move to Sydney, a failed Collingwood administration and the Fitzroy-Footscray merger. But only devoted one part to West Coast's entry.

 

[rayven]

Its at least a 2 part.

 

[Allefgib]

Don't suppose there's anyone around who can get a copy as a torrent up somewhere like aussietorrents.com ?

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Has that story ever come out??

I've never heard Kerls talk about it but Cornes said once that Kerls and DJars had a verbal/handshake agreement that he'd sign with the Crows and then Jarman had then gone back on his word. And that Kerls was ropeable.

 

[macca23]

I've never heard Kerls talk about it but Cornes said once that Kerls and DJars had a verbal/handshake agreement that he'd sign with the Crows and then Jarman had then gone back on his word. And that Kerls was ropeable.

Correct. If Darren Jarman had not made that handshake agreement on the 2nd last day before the cut-off and then reneged on it the next day, Richard Champion would have been an Adelaide Crow.

As we were assembling our list we got down to the very last spot which was offered to Jars, and he accepted it verbally and shook on it. Champion was told that he had missed out and signed up with Brisbane. The very next day, Jars dishonoured his deal with Kerls and signed with the Hawks, leaving an anguished Champion off to Brisbane when he would have preferred by far to play locally with the Crows.

Not Darren Jarman's finest moment.

 

[Leaping Lindner]

Correct. If Darren Jarman had not made that handshake agreement on the 2nd last day before the cut-off and then reneged on it the next day, Richard Champion would have been an Adelaide Crow.

As we were assembling our list we got down to the very last spot which was offered to Jars, and he accepted it verbally and shook on it. Champion was told that he had missed out and signed up with Brisbane. The very next day, Jars dishonoured his deal with Kerls and signed with the Hawks, leaving an anguished Champion off to Brisbane when he would have preferred by far to play locally with the Crows.

Not Darren Jarman's finest moment.

I've heard a "slightly" different version - one day the full story will come out.
Let's just say Neil Kerley's people skills aren't what they could be.

 

[tribey]

Sweet, I wonder if it will be the real story about how Port Adelaide Magpies tried to shaft the SANFL or the propaganda the Victorians want us to believe about how we wanted a lot more concessions before we would enter a team.

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In fact, both are true.

In the mid-to-late 80's the VFL wanted a South Australian team to complete the set and make the competition truly national - reaping the benefits of opening up our market and collecting our licence fee in the process.

Witnessing the experience of West Coast and the WAFL, the SANFL baulked at this and preferred to wait, in order to come in on our and not the VFL's terms. I read in a Football Budget from 1988 or 1989 that the SANFL agreed not to entertain the thought of joining at that time or in the near future and that the issue would not be revisited until 1994.

With the SANFL door firmly closed, the VFL courted Port and vice-versa and all hell broke loose.

 

[tribey]

Let's just say Neil Kerley's people skills aren't what they could be.

They'd have to be superior to Gerard "I don't like your earring" Neesham's, surely.

 

[Alex99]

Correct. If Darren Jarman had not made that handshake agreement on the 2nd last day before the cut-off and then reneged on it the next day, Richard Champion would have been an Adelaide Crow.

As we were assembling our list we got down to the very last spot which was offered to Jars, and he accepted it verbally and shook on it. Champion was told that he had missed out and signed up with Brisbane. The very next day, Jars dishonoured his deal with Kerls and signed with the Hawks, leaving an anguished Champion off to Brisbane when he would have preferred by far to play locally with the Crows.

Not Darren Jarman's finest moment.

Assuming Darren Jarman or Richard Champion (because we missed out on both) signed with they Adelaide Crows would have that been an end (before it had even began) to Mark Bickley time at the Adelaide Crows?

It’s public knowledge that Mark Bickley was the last player given a spot to in the 52 man squad. If Darren Jarman had of stayed loyal to his word, Mark Bickley may not have been a 2 time premiership captain of this football Club.

 

[-VC-]

Assuming Darren Jarman or Richard Champion (because we missed out on both) signed with they Adelaide Crows would have that been an end (before it had even began) to Mark Bickley time at the Adelaide Crows?

It’s public knowledge that Mark Bickley was the last player given a spot to in the 52 man squad. If Darren Jarman had of stayed loyal to his word, Mark Bickley may not have been a 2 time premiership captain of this football Club.

Touché.
A very good point. These things have a way of working themselves out. We ended up with Bickley and Jarman in our premiership teams, when if none of this would've happened Bickley may have never played an AFL game.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Touché.
A very good point. These things have a way of working themselves out. We ended up with Bickley and Jarman in our premiership teams, when if none of this would've happened Bickley may have never played an AFL game.

Yep, it did all work out. We ended up with Bickley and Jarman, won two premierships, and Richard Champion went on to star in It Takes Two.

Everyone's a winner.

 

[Alex99]

Touché.
A very good point. These things have a way of working themselves out. We ended up with Bickley and Jarman in our premiership teams, when if none of this would've happened Bickley may have never played an AFL game.

Who know how it may have worked out?

Had we signed the young Woodville defender (Richard Champion) rather than trying to sign Darren Jarman the selectors may not have been as willing to stand by the young talented North Adelaide teenager with a bad back?

Sean Wellman quiet easily could have been over looked if we already had a young defender because as a teenager he had a herniated disc in his back.

As things panned out Sean Wellman helped us get Darren Jarman but had Darren Jarman told Neil Kerley the day before he was going to the Hawks we may have had Richard Champion.

 

[rayven]

Yep, it did all work out. We ended up with Bickley and Jarman, won two premierships, and Richard Champion went on to star in It Takes Two.

Everyone's a winner.

And Tony Modra was a winner too. He took the best mark ive seen ever over Richard champion

 

[Alex99]

Re: Headliners Next Week - Tonight 26/7

Don’t forget that the Adelaide Crows story is on headliner tonight.

8:30 tonight on fox footy

Channel 506 on digital.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

Re: Headliners Next Week - Tonight 26/7

Don’t forget that the Adelaide Crows story is on headliner tonight.

8:30 tonight on fox footy

Channel 506 on digital.

Thanks mate. I thought I had already missed it thanks to Heff and the Bunnies. Should be interesting.

 

[Mong]

Correct. If Darren Jarman had not made that handshake agreement on the 2nd last day before the cut-off and then reneged on it the next day, Richard Champion would have been an Adelaide Crow.

As we know, this is in relation to the limit of 10 players who had been drafted and subsequently tied to other AFL clubs.

I'd be interested to know if anyone knows the full list of 10 (or 9 as it eventuated). I only know for sure of three players - Andrew Jarman, Chris McDermott and Rod Jameson, but there's another six. Of course we could guess who some might have been but I wonder if anyone knows for sure.

 

[The Crows Truth]

As we know, this is in relation to the limit of 10 players who had been drafted and subsequently tied to other AFL clubs.

I'd be interested to know if anyone knows the full list of 10 (or 9 as it eventuated). I only know for sure of three players - Andrew Jarman, Chris McDermott and Rod Jameson, but there's another six. Of course we could guess who some might have been but I wonder if anyone knows for sure.

no it wasnt 9 - it stayed at 10 when david brown was substituted for champion if my understanding is correct.

 

[DaveW]

1989 AFL National Draft

11. Essendon - Darren Smith
25. Melbourne - Paul Rouvray
31. St Kilda - Darel Hart
52. North Melbourne - Rod Jameson
78. West Coast - Steven Schwerdt
79. Brisbane - David Brown
84. Collingwood - Matthew Kelly
100. Essendon - David Pittman

With McDermott (2. Bris 1987) & A Jarman (15. Bris 1987) that's probably your ten.