Vic How would you rate Daniel Andrews' performance as Victorian Premier? - Part 5

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Vic - How would you rate Daniel Andrews' performance as Victorian Premier? - Part 4

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[Bradesmaen]

Pubs opened a few months ago? Well, my advice would be to stay there. There's sfa open here.

I must have imagined the crowds at the recent test matches in England.

I don't live in England you uneducated swine. Between lockdowns Melbourne was freer than Ireland has been in 18 months.

 

[Evolved1]

I think its the other way around just quietly.

I'm all ears.

 

[ScrappyCoCo]

lol glad I could entertain ya, sorry you don't value my opinion be well buddy

I didn't mean it like that. Agree with most of what you said. So many inconsistent rules that they ask us to follow a lot just doesn't seem to make sense. The public courses here have a lot of people walking and exercising on them...it would be more socially distanced if golf was happening possibly. Anyway, thanks for the chat and support.

 

[VineySMASH]

Was spraying capsicum spray in the face of a bloke sitting on the ground funny too?

What about knocking over an elderly lady and spraying her in the face?

Or how about the cop coming up behind another guy presenting no threat and slamming him head first into the concrete?

And you guys call us the Nazis. FMD!

I mean, its a matter of record that the recent fake-tradie protestors were/are Nazis. Its right there on their own social media pages.

 

[mcnulty]

Was spraying capsicum spray in the face of a bloke sitting on the ground funny too?

What about knocking over an elderly lady and spraying her in the face?

Or how about the cop coming up behind another guy presenting no threat and slamming him head first into the concrete?

And you guys call us the Nazis. FMD!

Nice deflection…actually it was dreadful. This bozo was there on an ego trip. Watching him shit the bed was very funny, and completely sums up the debacle we’ve seen from the protesters this week.

No plan, no clue.

 

[Evolved1]

I don't live in England you uneducated swine.

Same thing. We don't want your type here.

 

[Theseventhhamster]

I mean, its a matter of record that the recent fake-tradie protestors were/are Nazis. Its right there on their own social media pages.

To be fair it's not just neo-nazis, there's also regular fascists and also just general nuffies.

 

[eddiesmith]

I think you're confusing circumstance and timing with ability.

Victoria wouldn't be in lockdown right now if NSW had handled the virus better, that is a matter of record.

NSW last year stopped multiple incursions from Victoria, Victoria failed with one from NSW?

Besides the rubbish about NSW should have locked down at one case instead of waiting for 20 daily cases and they’d have been fine has been proven to be complete bullshit given Victoria locked down one day one of this outbreak and cases are still out of control months later.

Only difference is NSW has a plan to get out of it and are on their way out, Victorians have half a plan that’s over a month away but also have to hope Danny doesn’t change his mind as he usually does.

 

[Mateyman]

What on earth are you talking about?

Andrews political choices are completely different to the medical choices that are being pushed onto us, Andrews telling me to get the jab and trying to mandating it is completely different to arguing about the science behind the vaccine and studies.



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Ok so you said:

I know personally my view on this vaccine would be vastly different if he and Foley and Sutton didn't get up their everyday and talk so much sh*t.

It is completely nonsensical for someone to change their opinion on an important issue like that because they don't like the way Dan Andrews talks. Anyhow, you proudly claim that it did so there we are

What rock were you living under? The vaccine was most certainly advertised and pushed as giving you immunity, for the Alpha variant it looks like it did give you that immunity, however roll around to the Delta variant and it quite clearly is not immunizing anyone and is nowhere near as efficacious as proposed, these things are basically facts that aren't being argued, what is being argued is the side affects and if it is simply worth it for a young healthy person to get vaccinated, the vaccine clearly has issues/problems, and some of those are yet to be fully flushed out. Given the VAERS on the TGA website has last time I checked almost 500 deaths attributed to the vaccine after having their shot, I'd say it's fairly normal for people to have concerns and want to discuss it further.

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Deaths "After" having had their shot. Controlled relative to the rest of the population, there's no increased risk.

Anyhow it's a fairly simple concept to get your head around:

1. Vaccines reduce likelihood of you getting Covid
2. Vaccines reduce likelihood of you spreading Covid to other people
3. The benefits of vaccines outweigh the risks in all individuals for whom they are approved (as confirmed by the TGA)
4. By not taking the vaccine, you increase the risk of those around you contracting a disease which may kill them.

Yeah, given these 4 points it's fairly straightforward why vaccines are required to work in certain high-risk industries.

 

[Evolved1]

Nice deflection…actually it was dreadful. This bozo was there on an ego trip. Watching him sh*t the bed was very funny, and completely sums up the debacle we’ve seen from the protesters this week.

No plan, no clue.

I see no qualitative difference to any other protest. Check your bias.

 

[VineySMASH]

NSW last year stopped multiple incursions from Victoria, Victoria failed with one from NSW?

Besides the rubbish about NSW should have locked down at one case instead of waiting for 20 daily cases and they’d have been fine has been proven to be complete bullshit given Victoria locked down one day one of this outbreak and cases are still out of control months later.

Only difference is NSW has a plan to get out of it and are on their way out, Victorians have half a plan that’s over a month away but also have to hope Danny doesn’t change his mind as he usually does.

Have you considered what might be different this year compared to last?

 

[Evolved1]

NSW last year stopped multiple incursions from Victoria, Victoria failed with one from NSW?

Besides the rubbish about NSW should have locked down at one case instead of waiting for 20 daily cases and they’d have been fine has been proven to be complete bullshit given Victoria locked down one day one of this outbreak and cases are still out of control months later.

Only difference is NSW has a plan to get out of it and are on their way out, Victorians have half a plan that’s over a month away but also have to hope Danny doesn’t change his mind as he usually does.

I can't make sense of these Dan fanbois. They've had 2 years to learn their lesson.

 

[Evolved1]

Have you considered what might be different this year compared to last?

Don't keep us waiting. Tell us.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

NSW last year stopped multiple incursions from Victoria, Victoria failed with one from NSW?

Besides the rubbish about NSW should have locked down at one case instead of waiting for 20 daily cases and they’d have been fine has been proven to be complete bullshit given Victoria locked down one day one of this outbreak and cases are still out of control months later.

Only difference is NSW has a plan to get out of it and are on their way out, Victorians have half a plan that’s over a month away but also have to hope Danny doesn’t change his mind as he usually does.

Whats the NSW ambulance response time up to now?

The average was about an hour last week. Then they have to ramp for hours before they can unload.

 

[mcnulty]

I see no qualitative difference to any other protest

This sentence sums you up to a tee. Could you possibly be any more pretentious and ridiculous?

 

[MightyTiger]

I'm certain you are not a credible source of information. You are a useful political asset.

Found it [emoji3526] back in your hole you cretin.



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[Kwality]

At least with Dan you can see a semblance of a plan. Gladys caused this entire outbreak with her cavalier attitude toward the virus.

Nonsense, she was going okay until Delta demolished NSW & 'living with covid'.
The current placebo is vaccinating our way our of it (NSW & Vic) & hey, all good, no talk of living with covid - & people think its gone away.

Bad for the politics, one Lib, one Labor, but it wont stop the enthusiasts because ... the other mob, roger that.

 

[eddiesmith]

I can't make sense of these Dan fanbois. They've had 2 years to learn their lesson.

So which Dan fanboi has actually been banned in the last day or two? They’d have to do something pretty bad to get carded

 

[Hawk Dork]

NSW last year stopped multiple incursions from Victoria, Victoria failed with one from NSW?

Besides the rubbish about NSW should have locked down at one case instead of waiting for 20 daily cases and they’d have been fine has been proven to be complete bullshit given Victoria locked down one day one of this outbreak and cases are still out of control months later.

Only difference is NSW has a plan to get out of it and are on their way out, Victorians have half a plan that’s over a month away but also have to hope Danny doesn’t change his mind as he usually does.

Its amazing what preferential vax roll out can do

 

[VineySMASH]

Don't keep us waiting. Tell us.

So viruses have these different strains right.

 

[MightyTiger]

You might want to read that TGA website a bit better as your spreading misinformation here. 500 people have died after getting the vaccine not from the vaccine. For example I had the vaccine last week, if tomorrow I had a heart attack, the TGA investigates it. Is it linked to the vaccine? Anyway a grand total of 9 deaths are attributed to the vaccines. Which still is sad for all involved. But it is an extremely minimal risk. 9 from 24.8 million doses. All from astra zeneca. None from pfizer.

12 people died from covid died today.

Hold on.

So we get daily update deaths of people apparently dying from covid, did they die from covid or with covid?

See how you guys love to twist arguments to suit your narrow narrative.

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[Deliverance]

Have you considered what might be different this year compared to last?

Do you think Dan and Brett should have considered what was different this year and instigated different lockdown settings?

 

[Ragtime45]

Found it [emoji3526] back in your hole you cretin.



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60 minutes? Immediately discarded.

You wasted all that time only to post rubbish from mainstream media and hurl an insult at me?

 

[Evolved1]

This sentence sums you up to a tee. Could you possibly be any more pretentious and ridiculous?

Ad hominem. I suppose that's all you've got.

 

[eddiesmith]

Have you considered what might be different this year compared to last?

Yet you want Dan who’s plan to beat last years outbreak has failed miserably at stopping Delta and you still want to talk up how good his plan is?

At the end of the day, Sydney enjoyed freedoms for 15 months people in Melbourne could only dream of and will spend less time in lockdown than Melbourne due to Delta, so tell us again why you’d prefer more lockdowns and more deaths???