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Vic How would you rate Daniel Andrews' performance as Victorian Premier? - Part 5

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I'm curious as to when posters here think people have a right to protest lockdowns. I reckon I'll join them if/when we're still using lockdowns at 80% vaccination.

Our state premiers have lost the plot.
 
I'm curious as to when posters here think people have a right to protest lockdowns. I reckon I'll join them if/when we're still using lockdowns at 80% vaccination.

Our state premiers have lost the plot.
Would not bother to go out and protest post 80% would just cease compliance (apart from using necessary ppe at work). If caught would refuse to pay fines and direct it to confusing directives between state and federal government citing it unreasonable for me to know wtf to do when the chunts in charge have no idea; yes ignorance of law is not an excuse but when fork knuckles keep changing rules I think I’d get off.
 

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lol, the old "both sides" argument.

No, they aren't the same.

Yes, one is demonstrably worse than the other.

Nice attempt to distract though.
 
The only cult was on display in the city today. Another super spreader event by anti-vaxxer and conspiracy morons.
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If you watch the full daily press conferences (rather than watching 10 sec snippets on the news) which have qualified doctors attending (not just Dan the pollie) as well as listen to epidemiologists the health measures a clearly explained. Limit movement, limit contact, reduce the ability for the virus to spread, get tested straight away if exposed or have even the minor of symptoms, isolate as soon as you're found to be positive or are waiting for a test result, and most of all don't be a selfish clueless d***head having a public tantrum. It's not too difficult to understand .... well for some of us anyway.

Trying to defend dear leader by deflecting to a few thousand Victorians who protested today ?

I will focus on the Children traumatised because they can't go to school, see their friends or even go to a playground.

Than you have all those Victorians many parents who have children out of work or had their small business they have worked so hard for destroyed.

I have watched a number of his press conferences in full including the last few and the only regulars are Andrews, Sutton and Weimar with the occasional deputy filling in. I don't doubt some doctors and epidemiologists support Andrews measures however some have said they don't.

Why can't Andrews release paper work of the detailed health advice his government uses to impose these lockdowns with all the modelling that underpins that advice ?
 

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Trying to defend dear leader by deflecting to a few thousand Victorians who protested today ?

I will focus on the Children traumatised because they can't go to school, see their friends or even go to a playground.

Than you have all those Victorians many parents who have children out of work or had their small business they have worked so hard for destroyed.

I have watched a number of his press conferences in full including the last few and the only regulars are Andrews, Sutton and Weimar with the occasional deputy filling in. I don't doubt some doctors and epidemiologists support Andrews measures however some have said they don't.

Why can't Andrews release paper work of the detailed health advice his government uses to impose these lockdowns with all the modelling that underpins that advice ?
The vulnerable are vaccinated. The scared can stay inside. The rest of us can get on with life.

I don't see the problem.
 
The vulnerable are vaccinated. The scared can stay inside. The rest of us can get on with life.

I don't see the problem.
Are we at 80% yet?

I would prefer not to have my hospital overrun prior to 80% vaccination- this is what the health advice is saying.
I do not have to take shit from dumbarse protest mobs.
 

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Your post read like indigenous deaths in custody are not a thing.

Could you clarify eg did you mean BLM has no connection to Australian First Nation persons death in custody?
Read the Australian Institute of Criminology report with the assistance of the National Coronial Information System investigation it in the National Deaths In Custody Program.

"The Australian Institute of Criminology runs a program specifically identifying indigenous deaths in custody (The National Deaths in Custody Program NDICP). It looks at both prison and police related deaths. In a 20-year study it found that both non-indigenous and indigenous deaths had decreased and were at some of the lowest rates ever seen. The report noted in terms of indigenous deaths the total is lower than would be expected based on the proportion of the prison population that is Indigenous. The report noted that the rate of death has been consistently lower among Indigenous prisoners than their non-Indigenous counterparts. Importantly the report noted that It can be concluded that fact Indigenous persons were no more likely to die in prison custody than non-Indigenous persons remains true today."

Dr Terry Goldsworthy, Associate Professor in Criminology, Bond University.
 
The vulnerable are still being vaccinated. Job isn't done yet
Would also argue that the job isn’t done until everyone who wants to be vaccinated have had a chance to do so
 
BLM was what, 15 months ago?

If there was a BLM as recently as any of the anti-lockdown protests, you pay have a point bringing it up - but there hasn't been so it's a false dichotomy

infact, last year there was another BLM in Sydney while Melbourne was in 2.0, and there was no march in Melbourne -

you ****ing morons trying to conflate the two are dead shit morons - AND - EVEN IF THEY WERE THE SAME, WHAT HAS BLM GOT TO DO WITH WHAT HAPPENED TODAY?
 
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