Vic How would you rate Daniel Andrews' performance as Victorian Premier? - Part 6

[Not Important]

Warrant reveals IBAC probing ‘suspected corrupt conduct’ between Andrews government and firefighters’ union

The Independent Broad-based Anti-Corruption Commission has also moved to finalise its probe, telling government and union witnesses they are no longer bound by confidentiality notices.

www.theage.com.au

so the report is 2 b released soon. beat up.

 

[Not Important]

Andrews said yesterday that Victoria is about to move to "literally no rules".

This pedantry on "let it rip" is tiring and unhelpful. Most places are now close to moving on and coming as close to possible to "living with the virus". It's very possible we've reached the limit of what governments can do to drive down cases without "Wuhan-style" solutions like welding people into their houses.

bit like your posts. i'd add tedious.

 

[hawkman]

so the report is 2 b released soon. beat up.

If they are released to talk about it you would think they couldn't find anything/enough evidence

 

[Carn The Berries]

I said I was moving on but will respond to this post. I haven't conflated two distinct arguments. I don't believe face masks should be worn by primary school students and I also believe the decision to have a grade 3 cut-off was arbitrary in nature. Afterall what is it about grade 3 kids that distinguishes them from grade 2? (There are schools in country Victoria where you have combined Gr 2 & 3 classes).

Do I really think that Andrews, Foley, Sutton and co all took a set against kids of a certain age? I honestly don't know! If they showed us the data relied upon, not just vaccination rates, then I'd have a better understanding. The same people closed playgrounds. As I posted earlier we are the only state in Australia that has continued to impose the face mask rule on primary school kids. Now, seriously, I'm moving on...

Maybe I need to go back and do Quantitative Methods 1 at Uni again... Last I checked vaccination rates IS data.

I'm not sure what other information you are after to dispel the theory that the decision was arbitrary... Vax rates for Primary students are much lower than their secondary counterparts and the consensus (supported by empirical data that I have seen) is that compliance with students younger than grade 3 is difficult/impractical/impossible. That is no more "arbitrary" than drinking/driving/voting age (in fact, there is more evidence to support the former).

There are mixed year levels in almost every school, distinction along these lines has been prevalent throughout the pandemic, there have often been classes where some students are required to wear masks and other haven't due to their relative ages. A line has to be drawn somewhere.

 

[The Punter]

bit like your posts. i'd add tedious.

My posts do use correct punctuation and capitalisation, however, which is where someone might get bogged down in tedium.

As you were.

 

[Cats2022]

Nup. Mandates are still in place. Besides aged care and health care workers, my opinion is that we need to move past it. It has served its point.

The rule is if don’t get booster as a school teacher you can’t teach kids.
Unbelievable.

I spoke to a teacher the other day double jabbed had some issues after it then got covid was down for a week she said and now doesn’t want booster. She telling me she will lose her job.

Cause science. Lol jokers

 

[mighty tiges]

Uncle Rupert is getting desperate - the world is on the brink of war, yet the top six stories on the Hun’s website are all anti-Andrews.

This little ditty is hilarious. Getting a Young Liberal living off mummy and daddy's property portfolios to cry poor .

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

Discussing with Dan fans brings back memories of my discussions with Trump fans.

You blokes really hate your circlejerk being interrupted huh?

 

[Crankyhawk]

And cafes and pubs were super spreaders too, IIRC.

Nowhere else in Australia are primary school kids required to wear masks. This has the hallmarks of the playground closure edict, and is more a reflection of the state government’s failure to have young primary school students vaccinated than anything else.

As a matter of interest does anyone know what percentage of grades 4-6 students are double vaccinated?

Zero. Because vaccination only opened in January and the guidance from ATAGI is an 8 week gap.

 

[Crankyhawk]

Andrews said yesterday that Victoria is about to move to "literally no rules".

This pedantry on "let it rip" is tiring and unhelpful. Most places are now close to moving on and coming as close to possible to "living with the virus". It's very possible we've reached the limit of what governments can do to drive down cases without "Wuhan-style" solutions like welding people into their houses.

Really hope China fail to realise and waste resources chasing covid zero.

 

[Crankyhawk]

I don’t judge people who don’t want it and who keep their opinions to themselves. I care about anti vaxxers who go out of their way to try change the minds of others.
I think this gets overlooked way too much. The mandate has served his purpose - it got people vaccinated. Once we are highly boostered it’s time to get them out of the unemployment line and back to work.

Just my opinion.

Time for the useless leaners to get vaccinated.

 

[adogsfan5]

Time for the useless leaners to get vaccinated.

Think if they’ve still made up their mind by now mate, it ain’t happening.

 

[Crankyhawk]

Think if they’ve still made up their mind by now mate, it ain’t happening.

Hoping novovax would be acceptable for them

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Hoping novovax would be acceptable for them

They’ll see numbers falling and say, why bother

 

[Kwality]

They’ll see numbers falling and say, why bother

'til next time ....

Time for the useless leaners to get vaccinated.

... leaners.

 

[tandino]

Seems like Dan's agreement with the property industry all went to shit.

 

[hawkman]

Andrews pulls $800m property tax bill, claims industry reneged on deal

In an extraordinary development, Premier Daniel Andrews has accused the property sector of backing out on a deal to give them “massive windfall profits”.

www.theage.com.au

Didn't last long

 

[tandino]

I'd have thought a levy on developments of 3+ units would have a disproportionate impact on lower income households.

 

[HirdyLannister]

Andrews pulls $800m property tax bill, claims industry reneged on deal

In an extraordinary development, Premier Daniel Andrews has accused the property sector of backing out on a deal to give them “massive windfall profits”.

www.theage.com.au

Didn't last long

Typical DA, shift the blame and take no ownership himself.

Rinse and repeat.

 

[DIG]

Typical DA, shift the blame and take no ownership himself.

Rinse and repeat.

He’s full of shit.

OR he imagined it, given he never talks to business directly and would be relying on interpreting in his stupid head the info he gets from his subordinates.

 

[hawkman]

He’s full of sh*t.

OR he imagined it, given he never talks to business directly and would be relying on interpreting in his stupid head the info he gets from his subordinates.

Organisations seem to be surprised to learn they have been consulted about a new policy or law a lot

 

[tandino]

It's a real surprise that it's fallen over so quick.

 

[Opine]

"China Dan" attempting to build Cain-like social legacy; outside merely being thankfully superb at diminishing human rights during a global pandemic.

Leaders set example, he's shown a penchant for dehumanising some of those with views contrary to his own; amongst other things, referring to such as "that person". Its no wonder we have divisive militant LWNJ doing similarly likewise in Victoria.

 

[Christopher Buttersnip]

My posts do use correct punctuation and capitalisation, however, which is where someone might get bogged down in tedium.

As you were.

Just have quite some trouble with linguistics.

 

[Christopher Buttersnip]

Better than arguing that the phrase oxygen thief is akin to some sort of death threat, even from you that was an absolute f***ing doozy.

Bingo!