Vic How would you rate Daniel Andrews' performance as Victorian Premier? - Part 7

[Pakenhamsaint]

I would also suggest two former ministers now outside parliament are also likely to be under that bus.

One(Mikakos) you could argue has already been thrown under a different bus.

 

[hawkman]

Might need to do some exercises to improve his memory

IBAC said the premier "had no recollection of what he discussed with Ms Asmar, no recollection of any discussion with his advisors that led to this announcement [election promise] and no awareness that they and the Minister for Health's advisor had discussed a detailed proposal".

"After the Premier realised that his recollection of what he announced was faulty he left open the possibility that he may have made a commitment to Ms Asmar but remained quite uncertain that what he announced amounted to a commitment,'' the report said.

 

[FredLeDeux]

Might need to do some exercises to improve his memory

Core and non-core commitments

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

Might need to do some exercises to improve his memory

It is amazing how politicians seem to suffer selective memory loss.

 

[Kwality]

Might need to do some exercises to improve his memory

How was the memory of the Union official ?
Two fingers Mr Commissioner ?

 

[Magnum27]

The old memory loss, a politicians go to move, Mikakos will say the exact same thing if she is questioned.

 

[adogsfan5]

Might need to do some exercises to improve his memory

Haha nooooooooo… not the “I don’t recall” again?!!?

 

[Borough Blood]

i'll shorten the responses for this:

• landslide election
• look at liberal
• scomo
• jeff kennett
• crossing removals and other incomplete projects
• it's not corruption
• usa
• catholicism
• andrews is still the greatest

nothing to see here, move on.

Bless your heart.

 

[Tyberious Funk]

nothing to see here, move on.

The problem is that elections are typically a choice between two sides.

No matter how bad one side is, if the other side is worse, they'll continue to lose. The fact that the Liberals haven't been able to mount a serious challenge against Andrews shows just how bad they are. I thought Pesutto might bring something fresh to the table, but he's already been rolled by the loonies in his first few months.

 

[Kwality]

Core and non-core commitments

The fine line that defines corruption/bad management in Government on both sides of politics.

 

[Kwality]

The problem is that elections are typically a choice between two sides.

No matter how bad one side is, if the other side is worse, they'll continue to lose. The fact that the Liberals haven't been able to mount a serious challenge against Andrews shows just how bad they are. I thought Pesutto might bring something fresh to the table, but he's already been rolled by the loonies in his first few months.

NSW is a great example. The hangover of the bad days of Labor (Obied & co) have kept them out of power for a decade & even now the Minns Government dont have a majority in its own right.
As for Pesuto ..... next please.

 

[wizcapper]

The problem is that elections are typically a choice between two sides.

No matter how bad one side is, if the other side is worse, they'll continue to lose. The fact that the Liberals haven't been able to mount a serious challenge against Andrews shows just how bad they are. I thought Pesutto might bring something fresh to the table, but he's already been rolled by the loonies in his first few months.

okay, can i mark that off as "andrews is still the greatest"?

 

[Kwality]

'IBAC noted that Victoria is not unique in the erosion of public service independence and observed there needs to be better protection for public servants to do their job without fear of retribution from government.

"Such fears can relate to the denial of development opportunities, such as higher duties assignments, secondments or training, or loss of chances to be promoted through to 'get(ting) your marching orders' as one DHHS witness put it,'' the report said.'

The cheque books will be out for the DHHS witness who gave the marching orders testimony.

Operation Daintree special report overview | IBAC

Independant Broad-based Anti-corruption Commission

ibac.vic.gov.au

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

okay, can i mark that off as "andrews is still the greatest"?

I'm not sure that's what was being said at all.

More like Andrews is the best of a bad lot.

 

[tandino]

If anything should be held to a higher standard, I'd have thought spending on occupational safety in health settings would be at the top of that particular list.

 

[wizcapper]

I'm not sure that's what was being said at all.

More like Andrews is the best of a bad lot.

can we stretch it to the greatest of a bad lot? really keen to tick these items off my list, so if we could get it moving along. any takers for jeff kennett?

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

can we stretch it to the greatest of a bad lot? really keen to tick these items off my list, so if we could get it moving along. any takers for jeff kennett?

Well Jeff did sell off a lot of public assets.

(there you go, I've done my bit)

 

[The Punter]

If anything should be held to a higher standard, I'd have thought spending on occupational safety in health settings would be at the top of that particular list.

Come March - April 2020 that wasn't such a priority.

 

[tandino]

I'm not sure that's what was being said at all.

More like Andrews is the best of a bad lot.

It's not that relevant anyway. Who's the better Premier in a contest that won't happen until the end of 2026 doesn't do much for the here and now.

 

[wizcapper]

okay, can i mark that off as "andrews is still the greatest"?

great, thanks......

jeez scomo was a knob wasn't he?

 

[wizcapper]

Bless your heart.

if you could please stick to the guidelines, that'd be appreciated.
now andrews is still the greatest* and jeff kennett are taken. can i interest you in a catholic?

• landslide election
• look at liberal
• scomo
• jeff kennett
• crossing removals and other incomplete projects
• it's not corruption
• usa
• catholicism
• andrews is still the greatest

*best and greatest are interchangable.

 

[Saint]

Andrews's teflon coating is not a function of his performance as much as it's a reflection of the lack of performance of the alternative.

I'm critical of a lot of the things Andrews is doing/has done, particularly SRL and Airport Rail.

But the far greater problem for politics in Victoria is the lack of an opposition.

If there was a decent opposition, Andrews wouldn't be able to think he can get away with any of this stuff.

So, WizCapper, you can put me down for "look at Liberal" because you don't have to look any further to see why Andrews is acting so brazenly, far in excess of what most of his voters would have anticipated, many possibly think he's gone too far but still choose him over the alternative. Contrast that to Albanese who hasn't won a second landslide and is being about as quarter as bold as most of his supporters want and is largely thought to have not gone far enough.

 

[wizcapper]

Andrews's teflon coating is not a function of his performance as much as it's a reflection of the lack of performance of the alternative.

I'm critical of a lot of the things Andrews is doing/has done, particularly SRL and Airport Rail.

But the far greater problem for politics in Victoria is the lack of an opposition.

If there was a decent opposition, Andrews wouldn't be able to think he can get away with any of this stuff.

So, WizCapper, you can put me down for "look at Liberal" because you don't have to look any further to see why Andrews is acting so brazenly, far in excess of what most of his voters would have anticipated, many possibly think he's gone too far but still choose him over the alternative. Contrast that to Albanese who hasn't won a second landslide and is being about as quarter as bold as most of his supporters want and is largely thought to have not gone far enough.

okay, that's great. thanks saint, we're getting there.

• landslide election
• look at liberal
• scomo
• jeff kennett
• crossing removals and other incomplete projects
• it's not corruption
• usa
• catholicism
• andrews is still the greatest

 

[adogsfan5]

'IBAC noted that Victoria is not unique in the erosion of public service independence and observed there needs to be better protection for public servants to do their job without fear of retribution from government.

"Such fears can relate to the denial of development opportunities, such as higher duties assignments, secondments or training, or loss of chances to be promoted through to 'get(ting) your marching orders' as one DHHS witness put it,'' the report said.'

The cheque books will be out the DHHS witness who gave the marching orders testimony.

Operation Daintree special report overview | IBAC

Independant Broad-based Anti-corruption Commission

ibac.vic.gov.au

Watch them give handouts today for Porter Davis to cover up todays news.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

Watch them give handouts today for Porter Davis to cover up todays news.

With what money? We're drowning in debt as it is.

Soon to have a 1 star rating. How shameful!