Vic How would you rate Daniel Andrews' performance as Victorian Premier? - Part 7

[The Cryptkeeper]

sophies been hitten the pi$$ again ..... she is an embarrasment to the anti-dan stan cause

That's straight from the RWNJ playbook.

 

[eddiesmith]

You suggested that he'd delivered three projects to regional Victoria since becoming Premier and only in the regional seats that Labor held.

People have responded with a laundry list of massive upgrades across the state in rail/road infrastructure, health, education, recreation, housing, parks and the freaking Commonwealth Games and you're calling it "mindless cheerleading".

Yeah, I can tell you which contribution in this thread is mindless. Go have a cry.

It was in direct response to a post that is no longer there.

 

[Not Important]

when you have medical administrators making dumb decisions it’s hard to be too critical the great unwashed doing the same.

 

[Kwality]

‘It’s a disgrace’: Unions declare war on Dan Andrews over wage cap​

As the state seeks to pay back billions in pandemic spending in the May budget, Victorian Treasurer Tim Pallas announced that the state’s public sector wages cap – which applies to public servants, nurses, teachers, police, firefighters and others – would increase from 1.5 per cent per annum to 3 per cent.

Firefighters union chief Peter Marshall says the Victorian government’s new wages policy is “a disgrace”. Chris Hopkins

“It’s a disgrace,” secretary of the United Firefighters Union Victorian branch, Peter Marshall, who has been involved in multiple, bitter wage battles with the Andrews government, told The Australian Financial Review.

“It won’t cut it,” the Community and Public Sector Union Victorian secretary Karen Batt agreed.

Mr Andrews warned on Tuesday that prolonged lockdowns and the state’s pandemic bill meant there were billions to be paid back, as the premier flagged the May state budget would include “some very difficult choices”.

Unions declare war on indebted Daniel Andrews”

Key unions are lining up to battle Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews as he scrambles to reign in costs and refuses to follow New South Wales’ lead in scrapping the state wage cap.

www.afr.com

Responsible financial management with the cost of borrowings rising. Wont influence the nurses & teachers to return full time.

 

[adogsfan5]

‘It’s a disgrace’: Unions declare war on Dan Andrews over wage cap​

As the state seeks to pay back billions in pandemic spending in the May budget, Victorian Treasurer Tim Pallas announced that the state’s public sector wages cap – which applies to public servants, nurses, teachers, police, firefighters and others – would increase from 1.5 per cent per annum to 3 per cent.

Firefighters union chief Peter Marshall says the Victorian government’s new wages policy is “a disgrace”. Chris Hopkins

“It’s a disgrace,” secretary of the United Firefighters Union Victorian branch, Peter Marshall, who has been involved in multiple, bitter wage battles with the Andrews government, told The Australian Financial Review.

“It won’t cut it,” the Community and Public Sector Union Victorian secretary Karen Batt agreed.

Mr Andrews warned on Tuesday that prolonged lockdowns and the state’s pandemic bill meant there were billions to be paid back, as the premier flagged the May state budget would include “some very difficult choices”.

Unions declare war on indebted Daniel Andrews”

Key unions are lining up to battle Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews as he scrambles to reign in costs and refuses to follow New South Wales’ lead in scrapping the state wage cap.

www.afr.com

Responsible financial management with the cost of borrowings rising. Wont influence the nurses & teachers to return full time.

Nurses would be the last people I’d be targeting…

 

[Tyberious Funk]

sophies been hitten the pi$$ again ..... she is an embarrasment to the anti-dan stan cause

Biggest cheer squad? Is she for real? Oh, wait a moment... Skynews?

Whoops, I almost mistook that for a serious opinion.

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

‘It’s a disgrace’: Unions declare war on Dan Andrews over wage cap​

As the state seeks to pay back billions in pandemic spending in the May budget, Victorian Treasurer Tim Pallas announced that the state’s public sector wages cap – which applies to public servants, nurses, teachers, police, firefighters and others – would increase from 1.5 per cent per annum to 3 per cent.

Firefighters union chief Peter Marshall says the Victorian government’s new wages policy is “a disgrace”. Chris Hopkins

“It’s a disgrace,” secretary of the United Firefighters Union Victorian branch, Peter Marshall, who has been involved in multiple, bitter wage battles with the Andrews government, told The Australian Financial Review.

“It won’t cut it,” the Community and Public Sector Union Victorian secretary Karen Batt agreed.

Mr Andrews warned on Tuesday that prolonged lockdowns and the state’s pandemic bill meant there were billions to be paid back, as the premier flagged the May state budget would include “some very difficult choices”.

Unions declare war on indebted Daniel Andrews”

Key unions are lining up to battle Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews as he scrambles to reign in costs and refuses to follow New South Wales’ lead in scrapping the state wage cap.

www.afr.com

Responsible financial management with the cost of borrowings rising. Wont influence the nurses & teachers to return full time.

So all of these pricks that Andrews has created jobs for are now crapping in their own nest. Everybody is taking a hit at the moment, why should the public sector be immune?

I'm ideologically a unionist but they're out of control down here.

 

[eddiesmith]

‘It’s a disgrace’: Unions declare war on Dan Andrews over wage cap​

As the state seeks to pay back billions in pandemic spending in the May budget, Victorian Treasurer Tim Pallas announced that the state’s public sector wages cap – which applies to public servants, nurses, teachers, police, firefighters and others – would increase from 1.5 per cent per annum to 3 per cent.

Firefighters union chief Peter Marshall says the Victorian government’s new wages policy is “a disgrace”. Chris Hopkins

“It’s a disgrace,” secretary of the United Firefighters Union Victorian branch, Peter Marshall, who has been involved in multiple, bitter wage battles with the Andrews government, told The Australian Financial Review.

“It won’t cut it,” the Community and Public Sector Union Victorian secretary Karen Batt agreed.

Mr Andrews warned on Tuesday that prolonged lockdowns and the state’s pandemic bill meant there were billions to be paid back, as the premier flagged the May state budget would include “some very difficult choices”.

Unions declare war on indebted Daniel Andrews”

Key unions are lining up to battle Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews as he scrambles to reign in costs and refuses to follow New South Wales’ lead in scrapping the state wage cap.

www.afr.com

Responsible financial management with the cost of borrowings rising. Wont influence the nurses & teachers to return full time.

Unlucky for all those forced to lock in EBAs under the old cap to now see it doubled!

 

[sherb]

Funny being called a troll by someone who thinks Wodonga and Perth are comparable .

But anyone who kisses the ass of a politician is clearly just trolling, no one could actually be that stupid.

Actually Forward Press did nothing of the sort.

What he did was use the distance between Perth and Fremantle as an analogy to illustrate the distance between Albury-Wodonga and Wangaratta.

He did not compare the places themselves to each other at all.

You post some incredibly dumb s**t at times Eddie, it's no wonder FP thought you were a troll.

 

[Chief]

Eddie doesn't like any of us, so he does not think he should ever argue in good faith.

 

[sherb]

Whilst mindless cheerleading with zero criticism of a politician or critical thinking is ok because this really just is the Dan Andrews Ass Kissers Club.

Is that any better than mindless criticism of a politician with no acknowledgement of his positive achievements?

 

[sherb]

Nurses would be the last people I’d be targeting…

Didn't work out too well for the Libs in NSW.

 

[Tyberious Funk]

So all of these pricks that Andrews has created jobs for are now crapping in their own nest. Everybody is taking a hit at the moment, why should the public sector be immune?

I'm ideologically a unionist but they're out of control down here.

Maybe they are sick and tired of seeing all the work being farmed out to consultants, or the ballooning number of senior executives that do SFA whilst getting paid $200k+ per year. I know it used to frustrate the shit out of me having KPMG, Deloitte or PwC send in 2nd or maybe 3rd-year graduates to pick up all the work my team had been doing, package it into a Powerpoint pack for the senior execs, and then charge us anywhere up to $500k for the privilege. And then you get told "sorry, no money for pay rises... we need to find efficiencies."

Yeah, **** that.

If you are ideologically a unionist, you should be asking why the workers are getting screwed because of bad management decisions.

 

[eddiesmith]

Is that any better than mindless criticism of a politician with no acknowledgement of his positive achievements?

Which is, ummm, oh he’s expanded the existing Level crossing removal program as his biggest and only achievement!

But record debts and longest, harshest lockdowns are celebrated as successes by his sheep.

 

[Crankyhawk]

when you have medical administrators making dumb decisions it’s hard to be too critical the great unwashed doing the same.

Most of the health service I am aware of did back away from routine mask use (and from routine n95) the argument being that we are around randoms in the shops all the time who aren’t masked so what good does it do to mask while at work. My one had not ( and this has been source of angst for nurses too..)

 

[eddiesmith]

Didn't work out too well for the Libs in NSW.

Yet with the 1.5% cap they still all voted for Dan!

 

[Crankyhawk]

Maybe they are sick and tired of seeing all the work being farmed out to consultants, or the ballooning number of senior executives that do SFA whilst getting paid $200k+ per year. I know it used to frustrate the s**t out of me having KPMG, Deloitte or PwC send in 2nd or maybe 3rd-year graduates to pick up all the work my team had been doing, package it into a Powerpoint pack for the senior execs, and then charge us anywhere up to $500k for the privilege. And then you get told "sorry, no money for pay rises... we need to find efficiencies."

Yeah, * that.

If you are ideologically a unionist, you should be asking why the workers are getting screwed because of bad management decisions.

Sack all non frontline staff or have direct support role for frontline (eg payroll, IT). There’s your savings

 

[sherb]

Yet with the 1.5% cap they still all voted for Dan!

Do you think that, just perhaps, the (lack of) quality of the opposition might have something to do with Dan's success?

 

[eddiesmith]

Do you think that, just perhaps, the (lack of) quality of the opposition might have something to do with Dan's success?

Which seems to be the only real argument for Dan.

Well yeah he’s shit and probably corrupt, but Matthew Guy had lunch with a mobster so Dan gets a free pass.

 

[Crankyhawk]

Which seems to be the only real argument for Dan.

Well yeah he’s s**t and probably corrupt, but Matthew Guy had lunch with a mobster so Dan gets a free pass.

More liberals consuming themselves with culture war infighting, hijacking by religious nut jobs, inability to articulate a policy constructively. Those type of issues

 

[Home Alone]

Which is, ummm, oh he’s expanded the existing Level crossing removal program as his biggest and only achievement!

But record debts and longest, harshest lockdowns are celebrated as successes by his sheep.

Yet with the 1.5% cap they still all voted for Dan!

Which seems to be the only real argument for Dan.

Well yeah he’s s**t and probably corrupt, but Matthew Guy had lunch with a mobster so Dan gets a free pass.

You come across as a bit of a sook.

But at least you can say that you are a man true to his word and left the state when you said you would

 

[Kwality]

Sack all non frontline staff or have direct support role for frontline (eg payroll, IT). There’s your savings

Be sure to clean up after yourself, will the toilets be cleaned by the nurses .

Previously you pointed to top heavy management structures . Spot on.

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[Kwality]

More liberals consuming themselves with culture war infighting, hijacking by religious nut jobs, inability to articulate a policy constructively. Those type of issues

See John Pesutto.

 

[Crankyhawk]

See John Pesutto.

He wasn’t the leader when we had the election choice; yes he is more articulate but he’s been given problems with moira who played the “trauma” card and then walked back on her apology.

I tell my borderlines “yes bad trauma has happened to you but you still are responsible for your choices and decisions “

 

[Crankyhawk]

Be sure to clean up after yourself, will the toilets be cleaned by the nurses .

Previously you pointed to top heavy management structures . Spot on.

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Cleaning is a direct frontline role (infection control)