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Vic How would you rate Daniel Andrews' performance as Victorian Premier? - Part 7

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Why do these so called conservatives only have it in for Andrews?

not only, but mostly. cos he’s a successful polly who has regularly torn them a newie perhaps.

there’s a difference between visceral personal hatred, credlin et al style, and balanced criticism. seems too many of your side are into the former. the sooner your side gets peeps like ‘the punter’ into influential positions the sooner you’ll become relevant. wouldn’t hold my breath.
 

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Those opposite completely missed the ‘popularity’ of Dan. It’s not a personality cult, in fact his personality isn’t attractive, it’s the getting things done without being a prick like Kennett.
Contrast with the 3-4 years under Napthine bailleu where very little happened, and their own supporters were the biggest critics
Without being a prick? That's disputable.

Jeff never had a cult following like Dan does. I blame social media.
 
this reads remarkably like an opinion piece in todays murdoch $cum ...... a david penbarthy piece in fact

coincidence .... :think: ..... lol
No coincidence as I read it, fully agree with it and thought it worth pointing out to those who kneel at the alter of Dan. It was a well balanced piece for a Murdoch-press article IMHO.
 
Without being a prick? That's disputable.

Jeff never had a cult following like Dan does. I blame social media.

I’m staggered you think that about Jeff. Even recently hawks posters claimed he was ‘playing 4d chess’ when he’d say something stupid and not helpful at all to hawthorn.

I lost count of the number of times I was called out as a a biased labor supporter when I called him out on hawthorn matters
 
not only, but mostly. cos he’s a successful polly who has regularly torn them a newie perhaps.

there’s a difference between visceral personal hatred, credlin et al style, and balanced criticism. seems too many of your side are into the former. the sooner your side gets peeps like ‘the punter’ into influential positions the sooner you’ll become relevant. wouldn’t hold my breath.

Please don’t say “my side”. I don’t have a side.

Are you saying the rest of labor in other states are failed politicians then? Because they don’t seem to be copping the same issues.
 
I’m staggered you think that about Jeff. Even recently hawks posters claimed he was ‘playing 4d chess’ when he’d say something stupid and not helpful at all to hawthorn.

I lost count of the number of times I was called out as a a biased labor supporter when I called him out on hawthorn matters
That's Hawthorn supporters for you. Every Essendon supporter will tell you that Jeff is an arrogant prick!
 
not only, but mostly. cos he’s a successful polly who has regularly torn them a newie perhaps.

there’s a difference between visceral personal hatred, credlin et al style, and balanced criticism. seems too many of your side are into the former. the sooner your side gets peeps like ‘the punter’ into influential positions the sooner you’ll become relevant. wouldn’t hold my breath.

Maybe despite daily and ever more ludicrous ‘reporting’ by Murdoch rags he seems to have led labor’s resurgence in Australian govts.he als wasn’t afraid to deck the campaigns in red. No longer afraid of the brand.

In truth it’s just that the coalition brand stinks more, and the Murdoch pack is joined at the hip
 

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And former colleagues who he shafted. I can’t believe Jenny Mikakos has remained silent. Dan must have compromising photos of his colleagues and former colleagues[emoji6]
With his connections to industry and unions, he would have made it clear that future employment depends on keeping quiet. It is a shame that he has been able to rundown the corruption organisations in Victoria to something even Scummo might think is weak enough.

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Please don’t say “my side”. I don’t have a side.

Are you saying the rest of labor in other states are failed politicians then? Because they don’t seem to be copping the same issues.
The concerted media hatred for Andrews is largely due to the fact that he regards them with absolute contempt and as irrelevant mediocracies - and makes no secret of the fact.
 
No coincidence as I read it, fully agree with it and thought it worth pointing out to those who kneel at the alter of Dan. It was a well balanced piece for a Murdoch-press article IMHO.
rather than pass it off as your own, attribute the thought

anyhoo, ill let you all get back to your anti-dan circle jerk .... ive got a port v collingwood replay to watch
 

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The concerted media hatred for Andrews is largely due to the fact that he regards them with absolute contempt and as irrelevant mediocracies - and makes no secret of the fact.
thought of this when i read your comment

 
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Not that many likeness to scomo. More like Jeff. You know. Actually achieving stuff
I agree to a certain extent with you on that.
Certainly at the last election the post review suggested people saw the can do action of the level crossing removals and other projects. Just feel though the scales have dropped from people's eyes with the CW Games matter and they seem him now as deceitful. It's hard to shift that perception
 
Yes. Once upon a time Governments needed the media. Today, all you need is social media
Not sure if even your last sentence is true.
My guess would be that the usual right-wing dominance of social media also extends to anti-Dan drivel.
 
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