Hypocrisy of The Left - part 2

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And yet if anyone says the Libs are to blame for off-shore processing, there is an immediate rebuttal that Labor did it too.

Are Labor 'left' anymore?


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Haha who knows, I try and steer away from left and right debates. My comments above were trying to summarise my understanding more than anything else.
Off shore processing is ok with me either through Labour or Liberal. We can't build a giant sea wall so what other choice do we have.
 
Haha who knows, I try and steer away from left and right debates. My comments above were trying to summarise my understanding more than anything else.
Off shore processing is ok with me either through Labour or Liberal. We can't build a giant sea wall so what other choice do we have.

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Socialism is great but unfortunately Australia doesn't have a culture that can support socialism. Socialism only works if people recognise it comes with responsibilities and the commitment of participation.
 

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Socialism is great but unfortunately Australia doesn't have a culture that can support socialism. Socialism only works if people recognise it comes with responsibilities and the commitment of participation.

So in other words socialism only works if you ignore human nature? We knew that already.
 
So in other words socialism only works if you ignore human nature? We knew that already.

Jesus Christ so "human nature" is immutable now! of course slavery was never regarded as part of human nature or a hierarchy of races as something entirely "natural" - please use any argument against actual attempts
at socialism (of which there are many) but please don't stoop to something as dumb and ahistorical at the immutability of "human nature"

Tell me is "human nature" the same for Hutus as for people from Kew? The idea is preposterous!!!
 

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Jesus Christ so "human nature" is immutable now! of course slavery was never regarded as part of human nature or a hierarchy of races as something entirely "natural" - please use any argument against actual attempts
at socialism (of which there are many) but please don't stoop to something as dumb and ahistorical at the immutability of "human nature"

Tell me is "human nature" the same for Hutus as for people from Kew? The idea is preposterous!!!

Human nature was a bad way of describing it.

If you pretend that humans populations are capable of putting aside greed/selfish desires and taking accountability for their actions on mass, then yes socialism is a great idea.
 
Jesus Christ so "human nature" is immutable now! of course slavery was never regarded as part of human nature or a hierarchy of races as something entirely "natural" - please use any argument against actual attempts
at socialism (of which there are many) but please don't stoop to something as dumb and ahistorical at the immutability of "human nature"

Tell me is "human nature" the same for Hutus as for people from Kew? The idea is preposterous!!
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That all depends upon the context in which you're using the terms.

On a biological level, with regards our fundamental requirements for our existence, then Yes....Human nature remains the same & is universal.

The principal differences you are espousing are more concerned with socio-economic & cultural differences, which do not change man's nature one jot.

Behaviors & practices, Yes....Nature, No.
 
Jesus Christ so "human nature" is immutable now! of course slavery was never regarded as part of human nature or a hierarchy of races as something entirely "natural" - please use any argument against actual attempts
at socialism (of which there are many) but please don't stoop to something as dumb and ahistorical at the immutability of "human nature"

Tell me is "human nature" the same for Hutus as for people from Kew? The idea is preposterous!!!

Example:
Those that benefit from socialism the most are the less well off.

It is the less well off that are the first to undermine socialism by buying discount airline tickets. The result of which is jobs go overseas.

This is not a bad thing but highlights self interests of the individual over ride the proclaimed importance is social interest when tested.
 
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Thankfully most women that immigrate aren't feminist and don't know what political correctness is.
 
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