It's been written in here & elsewhere that Cegs to GWS may also be a consideration.
We have a very good 2 way running midfield already, i think Shiel would fill more needs to our team. The class and speed of Shiel is something that we lack. Both great players but i think Shiel fits a greater need.
Shiel has kicked 5 goals and coniglio has kicked 18 this year. Dunno where you’re getting your stats from haha
career stats, i feel they are a lot more relevant when recruiting a player.
I would suggest that recent history is much more important. Dan Hanneberys cv shits on these two but there’s no way in hell I would choose him over them
true but we are not talking about a 28 year old with a cooked body, or a 30 year old past his best. Both these players are mid 20's and i think they should be judged on more than just 19 games of data.
Hanners is only 2 years older than Shiel. In the end I would love either of them, but I just think Shiel is perceived to be a better player than he actually is. He’s a tease, don’t think his kicking is amazing, has speed but doesn’t use it enough, doesn’t really have the capability to go forward. Isn’t really a tackling or clearance machine. Just a pretty good player. Coniglios ahead in most stats over the last couple of years and if he didn’t destroy his ankle last year the gap might be even bigger
Hannebery is in decline whereas Shiel and Cogs are entering their prime so pointless argument. For me Shiel is much more explosive and a far better ball user than Cogs and compliments our current midfield (especially when Silk moves on) better. He is also cheaper to get salary/contract wise, more expendable at GWS therefore more gettable than Cogs. Would take Cogs in a heartbeat but I think we are more likely to shake Shiel out of the GWS midfield excess tree.
Yea and that is totally fine, just for the record i am not even saying i would prefer Shiel over Coniglio. Just wish we could discuss Shiel if/when linked to us without saying 'would prefer Coniglio' every time because both are stars and both would make us a better team.
I’m with you on we are more likely to get Shiel. Cogs will stay there. I’ve got it on decent authority that Shiel will be in Melbourne next year or the year after. He’d still cost us around the 800k mark, and probably a 1st and 2nd rounder
It’s not really a who is the better player argument but who we are more likely to get and which player best suits our midfield moving forward. I think we have enough grunt but lack the more explosive type like Shiel who can break into space and run and carry. GWS have to decide whether they trade for Shiel this year when his currency is at its peak knowing they will more than likely lose him next year for far less (RFA). Just can’t see Cogs leaving unfortunately! Yes Shiel has dodgy shoulders but he is a Victorian and much more likely to leave GWS.
What’s all this trade Cegs crap? Cegs is great, he’s going nowhere.
Meanwhile, over on the GWS board...
You little ripper!!!! We could get him as a late 2nd or third rounder so we can afford to give up our first this year for Dylan!! So, we end up getting Dylan + Hill jr instead of speculative first rd and second rd players.
