Its Time For Trigg To Resign.

[OzSparrow]

Yes I have. They were somewhat ambiguous I thought. What I know is that we did not exceed our salary cap at any stage, but that we'd underwritten these payments to Kurt should he not be able to achieve that with Third Party agreements. We did not have to pay any of that to him as he was able to achieve that through various sources. Even if we had to pay them, we wouldn't have exceeded our salary cap. The fact that we'd underwritten to do so without including it in the TPP, was seen as a breach. That we were seen to be involved in some of these third party agreements, which while technically true, wasn't the whole story. We didn't actually organise them, but we did have some communication with those involved along the line of "We want to sponsor Tippett..." and us agreeing to it. We didn't instigate the extra payments, but we were seen to be involved, which you can't be. I believe this would happen at most clubs (see Visy/Carlton/
Judd).

The biggest issue, by far, was the contract involving Tippett as negotiated by Reid, and that's what we copped the biggest whack for.

Most commentators, and opposition supporters believe we got off very lightly. I believe our negotiated penalty served two purposes. 1) it was commensurate with the level of stuff up (ie. bad but not on a par with either Essendon or Carlton before us; was our first ever offense and we co-operated fully), and 2) allowed the AFL to establish a precedent for the upcoming tanking disaster with Melbourne (ie. applying the majority of punishment to the individuals involved without crushing the Club).

There is no doubt that Trigg made a huge mistake by not getting the rescinded agreement in writing. I believe though, that a $50,000 fine, and 6 month suspension (not to mention the stigma with living with this) is a massive penalty that he has to wear for the rest of his life.

Maybe Triggy can find this agreement with Essendon's Dr Bruce's letter or Dank's letter from WADA?

 

[jenny61_99]

Maybe Triggy can find this agreement with Essendon's Dr Bruce's letter or Dank's letter from WADA?

He never got it writing. He's acknowledged that. But I did chuckle.

 

[OzSparrow]

He resigned when it happened, and has done so many times since, with Chapman insisting he stay on. Don't dare call him dishonourable because someone else wouldn't accept it.

My beef is with BOTH of them. They are both protecting each other. Peas in pods!

Chapman should go as well.

Worst branding stain that has hit this club since inception and the 2 so-called "leaders" of this club refuse to have the buck stop with them. We are now no better than the other cheats that have preceeded us in the VFL/AFL.

Disgraceful.

 

[Sanders]

Biased? Well he's the only one that actually KNOWS what happened, unlike anyone in here.

No he's NOT.

He is the accused, his version of events is just that. The accused's version.

that could not be further from a credible source.

I can see the headline "accused says he can explain everything". Well that's alright then

 

[Sanders]

He resigned when it happened, and has done so many times since, with Chapman insisting he stay on. Don't dare call him dishonourable because someone else wouldn't accept it.

He's dishonourable in so many ways.

Not least of all pretending he needs permission to resign

He's a proven crook.

 

[Wood_Duck]

No he's NOT.

He is the accused, his version of events is just that. The accused's version.

that could not be further from a credible source.

I can see the headline "accused says he can explain everything". Well that's alright then

Any less reliable than the version you have imagined in your head?

 

[FR0GGY]

He resigned when it happened, and has done so many times since, with Chapman insisting he stay on. Don't dare call him dishonourable because someone else wouldn't accept it.

In my opinion Trigg doesn't believe he's done wrong otherwise he would have resigned, not just handed in his resignation. It was done as a token gesture.
You don't have to be approved to resign.
And if he does believe he has done wrong and should resign why doesn't he? Surely we don't want someone in the job who doesn't believe they should be there.

 

[Slippery Pete]

Think you will find Crow mo has no interest in coming back.

I was talking about Trigg.

 

[Slippery Pete]

He resigned when it happened, and has done so many times since, with Chapman insisting he stay on. Don't dare call him dishonourable because someone else wouldn't accept it.

You are living in la la land.

 

[Wood_Duck]

I was talking about Trigg.

So you were. Clearly I picked the wrong post to to reply to.

 

[Sanders]

Any less reliable than the version you have imagined in your head?

Dunno, I reckon it might be.

Since when do we take the exonerating excuses of the accused as an unbiased, credible record of events?

In any walk of life, do we do that?

Innocent until proven guilty maybe. Oh wait he was found guilty

 

[Wood_Duck]

Dunno, I reckon it might be.

Since when do we take the exonerating excuses of the accused as an unbiased, credible record of events?

In any walk of life, do we do that?

Innocent until proven guilty maybe. Oh wait he was found guilty

You are aware this wasn't a criminal trial?

 

[Punchy Bassett]

What part of this don't you understand? He believed the deal had been rescinded. So when asked if there was a clause in his contract, he honestly said "no there's not". It wasn't until Tippett chose Sydney and the deal went pear-shaped that he had the slightest inclination that it was still in play.

Maybe after months and months of speculation about it, maybe just maybe something should have clicked in his head saying I didn't get this in writing and clearly the other side believe it still exists. Who do you think was fanning those rumours? It sure as hell wouldn't have been the Crows side.

 

[Cap]

Maybe after months and months of speculation about it, maybe just maybe something should have clicked in his head saying I didn't get this in writing and clearly the other side believe it still exists. Who do you think was fanning those rumours? It sure as hell wouldn't have been the Crows side.

that is the worst part.

surely a phone call to Bultcher confirming there is no agreement wouldn't have gone astray.

 

[Wood_Duck]

that is the worst part.

surely a phone call to Bultcher confirming there is no agreement wouldn't have gone astray.

Agreed, this is where Triggs version of events seems a little bit 'sketchy'.

 

[Cap]

Agreed, this is where Triggs version of events seems a little bit 'sketchy'.

I'm assuming he was too busy calling fans pathetic and not being involved in the SACA/AFL discussions around Adelaide Oval which were going on right under his nose (and the Power and the SANFLs)

 

[Wood_Duck]

I'm assuming he was too busy calling fans pathetic

People refer to this a lot. In reality there is an element of the AFC fan base that is indeed pathetic.

 

[Mattrox]

People refer to this a lot. In reality there is an element of the AFC fan base that is indeed pathetic.

You only need to read the threads after a loss to work that out.

 

[Cap]

People refer to this a lot. In reality there is an element of the AFC fan base that is indeed pathetic.

agreed.

I didn't really want to put it in, but heck I thought why not go for the jugular

do we know when our esteemed leader is due back? will be interesting what his first presser is.

 

[Punchy Bassett]

I'm assuming he was too busy calling fans pathetic and not being involved in the SACA/AFL discussions around Adelaide Oval which were going on right under his nose (and the Power and the SANFLs)

An offence many other CEO's of footy clubs would not have survived.

 

[Punchy Bassett]

People refer to this a lot. In reality there is an element of the AFC fan base that is indeed pathetic.

Thing is the time and circumstances he said this in, he was dead wrong. Craig's time was up

 

[Bob Neil]

He resigned when it happened, and has done so many times since, with Chapman insisting he stay on. Don't dare call him dishonourable because someone else wouldn't accept it.

A resignation doesn't require mutual consent...

 

[jenny61_99]

In my opinion Trigg doesn't believe he's done wrong otherwise he would have resigned, not just handed in his resignation. It was done as a token gesture.
You don't have to be approved to resign.
And if he does believe he has done wrong and should resign why doesn't he? Surely we don't want someone in the job who doesn't believe they should be there.

He resigned, but of course he didn't want to. He loves his job, he loves the Club. Someone talks you out of it and giving you compelling reasons, you might consider staying. He wouldn't be the first person that has reconsidered a resignation. And although people are appalled by the fact that a contingent of members gave him a rousing round of applause at the AGM, it could have been a factor as to why he reconsidered. I think if he thought the majority of supporters felt as vehemently opposed to him as you guys do in here, he wouldn't have stayed.

 

[jenny61_99]

You are aware this wasn't a criminal trial?

But he's sure as hell being treated like one in here.

 

[ltdamn]

People refer to this a lot. In reality there is an element of the AFC fan base that is indeed pathetic.

I agree, although some of our sponsors are probably pretty average as well but I've never heard a CEO drop the bucket on them - or any other group of people who give the club money on a regular basis for that matter.