Jason Dunstall vs Tony Lockett - who was better?

[Procrastinator35]

Pretty unfair to compare Dunstall to Plugger. A better comparison would've been Carey or Ablett.

Oh right....Did they kick as many as Dunstall now did they?....Dunstall's goal-average is far superior to Abletts'.

Carey you could likely compare to Matthews, though Carey would still come a distant second in most categories.

 

[Deledio_Judd]

Lockett for mine. Didn't get to see much of them unfortunately though as it was just before I got into footy
Edit: Both of their stats are absurd haha

 

[My Tilly]

Lockett.
Superior mark.
Played in a weak team and still dominated.
Also had the intimidation factor.

Don't think it's close to be honest. Dunstall was one of the best of his generation whereas Lockett is in the GOAT discussion.

 

[00Stinger]

I think Lockett was better but the poll results should be closer

 

[brutus76]

Plugger 1500+ if he played for the Hawks getting them lace out by the likes of Platten, D.Jarman, Pritchard, Dipper etc

 

[Paul Kersey]

Dunstall though it's a coin toss IMO. That said, would love to go back in time and watch their careers again. What an era it was.

 

[Mighty Eagles]

Plugger

 

[Mitchell Madness]

I'd like to see the assist tallies.
I'd suggest dunstall would have had at least 3 times the assists of lockett.
I'd suggest dunstall was about 20 years too early in terms of what a full forward was.

 

[My Tilly]

I'd like to see the assist tallies.
I'd suggest dunstall would have had at least 3 times the assists of lockett.
I'd suggest dunstall was about 20 years too early in terms of what a full forward was.

I think this is a tremendous fallacy about Dunstall. He was certainly good for at least 1 direct goal assist per game (that's being very generous) but certainly not 3 x more what Lockett managed during his career.

I also don't understand what you mean by 20 years too early. Dunstall began playing in 1985. By the time 1995 rolled around, most key defenders were standing 192cm in stature. He not only would have been too short to play as a kpp, he never displayed an ability to play multiple positions when he was in his prime years.
Could certainly picture him being a decent mid sized defender like we see of similar similar sized players who have tremendous aerial skills but Dunstall's stocky, robust body shape would have seen him struggle as a full forward in 2005.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

I think this is a tremendous fallacy about Dunstall. He was certainly good for at least 1 direct goal assist per game (that's being very generous) but certainly not 3 x more what Lockett managed during his career.

I also don't understand what you mean by 20 years too early. Dunstall began playing in 1985. By the time 1995 rolled around, most key defenders were standing 192cm in stature. He not only would have been too short to play as a kkp, he never displayed an ability to play multiple positions when he was in his prime years.
Could certainly picture him being a decent mid sized defender like we see of similar similar sized players who have tremendous aerial skills but Dunstall's stocky and robust body shape would have seen him struggle in the year 2005.

I only saw dunstall late in his career, and he would give off 3-4. If this was because his body couldn't hack it who knows, but in that same period as lockett approached retirement, he would rarely give it off

And 20 yrs too early I mean the way forwards play the game. He had a team-forst mindset in a very individual era for forwards

 

[Paul Kersey]

Dunstall in this era could have played in any number of positions. Easily could have trimmed down, built a tank and played in the guts in a style similar to that other podgy champion Sam Mitchell. That said, imo he’d still play full forward and would still dominate.

 

[footyfan1978]

If you have to ask it obviously means you were born too late to see Lockett or a Hawks supporter.

 

[footyfan1978]

Lockett.
Superior mark.
Played in a weak team and still dominated.
Also had the intimidation factor.

Don't think it's close to be honest. Dunstall was one of the best of his generation whereas Lockett is in the GOAT discussion.

Yep. It is Lockett, Coleman, Pratt, Soapy Vallence and Ron Todd in that discussion from top of the head thinking.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Plugger by the size of Saturn's Rings.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Lockett.
Superior mark.
Played in a weak team and still dominated.
Also had the intimidation factor.

Don't think it's close to be honest. Dunstall was one of the best of his generation whereas Lockett is in the GOAT discussion.

Tony Lockett for my money is the greatest player I have ever seen in my lifetime (I am 43)

Just an extraordinary figure and presence on field.

 

[jackenny]

Dunstall’s defensive efforts are really overstated in this thread. Team orientated? Yeah, a little (more in regard to passing and the odd shepard or timely bump). But the bloke wasn’t chasing people down Cyril Rioli-style.

Plugger used to do the team thing, too. He’d crash packs. Hard. Harder than anybody else. And he’d fly the flag against any opposition that tried to bully any teammates. Hard. Harder than anybody else. Remember that time Tom Hawkins

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Tom Hawkins

Age

37

Ht

197cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.2

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

4.4

3star

M

5.5

5star

T

1.9

4star

G

2.1

5star

D

12.7

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.1

3star

G

1.6

5star

D

7.8

2star

K

5.6

3star

HB

2.2

2star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.0

3star

G

2.2

5star

gave Stratton a couple jumper punches, and Lake flew the flag and Hawkins backed down instantly? That was Plugger’s presence, as well. But he was even scarier.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Lockett. Reason being - and it's hard to split as I have them 5 and 6 all time - is Plugger didn't have the calibre of player delivering him the ball than what Dunstall did.

It's close.