Jesse Hogan(mini-draft)- priority for us

[apuchar]

football will never get to the point where KPP's are not required... all i want is a succession plan for mcpharlin and pav..

Moller, Membrey, a key back in the second round and whoever else we recruit or trade for in the next couple of years. Maybe???

 

[Kickett Punches Read]

if GWS are after big bodied players we have a player who made top 10 in the B & F this year who they might like.
One Pearce in the team would suffice. (waiting for the attacks )

id go for that

 

[caterina]

if GWS are after big bodied players we have a player who made top 10 in the B & F this year who they might like.
One Pearce in the team would suffice. (waiting for the attacks )

It is a tad curious that he is still unsigned, especially after Spurr was upgraded

 

[Kickett Punches Read]

Moller, Membrey, a key back in the second round and whoever else we recruit or trade for in the next couple of years. Maybe???

moeller is a ruckman not a forward.

who is membrey?

 

[yakka man]

By all accounts (mine), Silvagni's poker face has just forced Bond to unveil his secret weapon, a conference call with RTB in which Ross has convinced SOS that Ibbo and Silvagni are competitive beasts, who, after having licked their wounds will be giving great effort to the GWS Giants, and that the pen in front of SOS is fit and available and ready to play it's role for both our football clubs.

You're making an assumption. I don't deal in speculation

 

[apuchar]

moeller is a ruckman not a forward.

who is membrey?

Moller is a ruck/forward and Membrey is Jack Darling Mark II. + whatever else we can pick up. Aaron Black went to North for a second rounder if I remember correctly. He goes alright. might be able to pick up someone like him or better in the next couple of drafts.

 

[Ghost Pig]

So what is the current model for success?

Well the Grand final winning team played two and a half KPF's in Reid, Morton and Goodes (half) who combined for five scoring shots and the GF losing team played two and a half in Franklin, Gunston and Roughead (half) who combined for thirteen scoring shots.

I think making the last game of the season may become easier with straight shooting big forwards but winning it may become a game of chance if you come to rely on them too much.

 

[apuchar]

It is a tad curious that he is still unsigned, especially after Spurr was upgraded

Might be some doubt about McPhee. didn't attend the B&F

 

[jedi mind tricks]

Might be some doubt about McPhee. didn't attend the B&F

He was looking after his children.

 

[Ghost Pig]

if GWS are after big bodied players we have a player who made top 10 in the B & F this year who they might like.
One Pearce in the team would suffice. (waiting for the attacks )

(Pearcing screams give away the approaching Pearced off Pearce fans who proceed to Pearce on the integrity of your opinion.)

 

[apuchar]

He was looking after his children.

Oh cool.

 

[strobe00]

if GWS are after big bodied players we have a player who made top 10 in the B & F this year who they might like.
One Pearce in the team would suffice. (waiting for the attacks )

I can't think of a single instance so far of GWS even being interested in players, except old, cheap discards.

No evidence so far that they're doing anything except stockpiling picks and talented draftees for future domination.

Clancee would be lucky to net us a second rounder, and he won't be traded regardless. Moller may be worth something to them, but Moller + other player won't get us pick 12 by itself.

 

[Ghost Pig]

who is membrey?

All you need to know is that he has an anchor tattooed on his left bicep.

 

[Sman-21]

The bulldogs showed many times that key forwards arent needed to do well during the year.
Come finals time though they are desperately needed.
The pressure is too high and there isnt much time and space for great kicks inside 50.

Thats why key forwards are needed.
If you want to win a premiership u need key forward targets.

 

[strobe00]

moeller is a ruckman not a forward.

who is membrey?

Undersized Victorian KPF junior. 189 cm.

 

[apuchar]

All you need to know is that he has an anchor tattooed on his left bicep.

Palm tree

 

[Ghost Pig]

moeller is a ruckman not a forward.

who is membrey?

AS AN 18-year-old seven weeks away from knowing where his footy will take him, Tim Membrey stands as a big, mobile and physical full forward. He leads out of the goalsquare, takes contested marks and converts his shots on goal with a fluid and uncomplicated nine-step action. As an AFL player, he thinks he'll need to do a bit more.

Membrey finished the season as one of the most talked about hopefuls of this year's crop, after an excellent TAC Cup finals series. In the first qualifying final against the Dandenong Stingrays, he kicked four goals.

He followed it with eight goals and a commanding best-on-ground performance against the Sandringham Dragons in the preliminary final, and another four in Gippsland Power's one-point Grand Final loss to the Oakleigh Chargers.

But Membrey isn't a traditional size for a key position player. He's 189cm and at this week's NAB AFL Draft Combine has tested in the medium forwards category, alongside players who shift onto the wing, or spend time in the midfield. Recruiters are keen to see how he'd go doing the same.

"They know I can play forward but they'd like to see me push up the ground a bit more and play a bit more of a higher role, and on the ball. They'd like to see me get my fitness up," Membrey toldAFL.com.au.

Membrey played some junior footy through the midfield, using his size advantage to overcome opponents. When they started catching up, he moved forward, where he has found his niche.

"Coming into an AFL club, I obviously wouldn't be a key tall, so I've got to learn that third tall role, where it's about leading into space, then getting out of it, or giving second and third leads," he said.

"I try to model my game on Jack Darling in that respect. He's not a key position player but sometimes you'd think that he is."

Membrey's end to the year didn't happen by chance.

A knee injury limited him to only three games for Vic Country in the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships, and a groin injury after that didn't help. People were telling him he needed to play more, and more consistently, to properly assert himself as a top 30, or so, pick, where many feel he belongs.

"I was feeling good at the end of the season. I knew there was a lot on the table and a lot of things I had to prove to get me really recognised by clubs," Membrey said. "That was just about stringing games together. Every recruiter, if they're interested in a player, wants to see him actually play. That's what I needed to do."

Making clubs more interested in Membrey are the things that can't be measured at this week's NAB AFL Draft Combine. He knows when a game's course needs to be changed, and tends to find a way to do it. He can lift his side with a bump, or a strong marking contest, and celebrates goals with a roar.

He's walked a different passage to a few of his contemporaries, too.

A late call-up to the AIS-AFL Academy squad this year, Membrey is an apprentice plumber, working five days a week, even when his legs are sore on a Monday morning after a game. Surfing most weekends takes his mind off things, as does the odd shot at hunting rabbits and foxes at a friend's property.

Membrey also comes complete with tattoo: a colourful anchor and palm tree that stretches from the top of his left shoulder to his elbow. It's another little point of difference to a player who, in an even draft, is setting himself apart.

"I've always been interested in the beach theme and one of my mates is a handy drawer so I got him to draw one up and the artist slapped it on," he said. "I'm happy with the half-sleeve at the moment."

 

[IAMJUNGLEMUFFIN]

football will never get to the point where KPP's are not required... all i want is a succession plan for mcpharlin and pav..

We have KPP's, you kids are just wanting a future 10 time AA and Coleman medal winner.

Filling specific flaws or needs in your list will be far simpler to achieve now thanks to Free Agency, point in case Danyle Pearce. We went out, targetted and recruited a specific type of player to fill a specific need, what makes you think we will stop using that approach in the future? What makes you think that approach will be any less effective?

I'd suggest that picking up talls through Free Agency/trading would be far more successful than picking them up in the draft, we've all heard the argument before, but unless you are picking the absolute creme of the big men, you're strike rate isn't going to be very high.

We have picked up Dawson, Anthony, Faulks, Griffin, Moller, Silvagni in the past few years through drafting and trading. We effectively had Mitch Clark last year if we wanted to pay the price. That to me says there is a clear succession plan in place with regards to our big man stocks.

So what is the current model for success?

Rhetorical question?

 

[Kickett Punches Read]

Moller is a ruck/forward and Membrey is Jack Darling Mark II. + whatever else we can pick up. Aaron Black went to North for a second rounder if I remember correctly. He goes alright. might be able to pick up someone like him or better in the next couple of drafts.

at 204cm, i highly doubt that he will be an AFL forward of much repute, he may be able to go forward on the odd occassion. he will not be the answer to our future KPF problems

where is membrey from? i honestly havent even heard the name, would be interested to see what chris thinks of him

 

[Jezzitizle]

Well the Grand final winning team played two and a half KPF's in Reid, Morton and Goodes (half) who combined for five scoring shots and the GF losing team played two and a half in Franklin, Gunston and Roughead (half) who combined for thirteen scoring shots.

I think making the last game of the season may become easier with straight shooting big forwards but winning it may become a game of chance if you come to rely on them too much.

Plus the resting ruckman. Would you really call Morton a KPF? I'd call him more a Chris Mayne type mid sized forward, only half as hard working as Mayney. Agree very much with the last sentence.

 

[apuchar]

AS AN 18-year-old seven weeks away from knowing where his footy will take him, Tim Membrey stands as a big, mobile and physical full forward. He leads out of the goalsquare, takes contested marks and converts his shots on goal with a fluid and uncomplicated nine-step action. As an AFL player, he thinks he'll need to do a bit more.

Membrey finished the season as one of the most talked about hopefuls of this year's crop, after an excellent TAC Cup finals series. In the first qualifying final against the Dandenong Stingrays, he kicked four goals.

He followed it with eight goals and a commanding best-on-ground performance against the Sandringham Dragons in the preliminary final, and another four in Gippsland Power's one-point Grand Final loss to the Oakleigh Chargers.

But Membrey isn't a traditional size for a key position player. He's 189cm and at this week's NAB AFL Draft Combine has tested in the medium forwards category, alongside players who shift onto the wing, or spend time in the midfield. Recruiters are keen to see how he'd go doing the same.

"They know I can play forward but they'd like to see me push up the ground a bit more and play a bit more of a higher role, and on the ball. They'd like to see me get my fitness up," Membrey toldAFL.com.au.

Membrey played some junior footy through the midfield, using his size advantage to overcome opponents. When they started catching up, he moved forward, where he has found his niche.

"Coming into an AFL club, I obviously wouldn't be a key tall, so I've got to learn that third tall role, where it's about leading into space, then getting out of it, or giving second and third leads," he said.

"I try to model my game on Jack Darling in that respect. He's not a key position player but sometimes you'd think that he is."

Membrey's end to the year didn't happen by chance.

A knee injury limited him to only three games for Vic Country in the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships, and a groin injury after that didn't help. People were telling him he needed to play more, and more consistently, to properly assert himself as a top 30, or so, pick, where many feel he belongs.

"I was feeling good at the end of the season. I knew there was a lot on the table and a lot of things I had to prove to get me really recognised by clubs," Membrey said. "That was just about stringing games together. Every recruiter, if they're interested in a player, wants to see him actually play. That's what I needed to do."

Making clubs more interested in Membrey are the things that can't be measured at this week's NAB AFL Draft Combine. He knows when a game's course needs to be changed, and tends to find a way to do it. He can lift his side with a bump, or a strong marking contest, and celebrates goals with a roar.

He's walked a different passage to a few of his contemporaries, too.

A late call-up to the AIS-AFL Academy squad this year, Membrey is an apprentice plumber, working five days a week, even when his legs are sore on a Monday morning after a game. Surfing most weekends takes his mind off things, as does the odd shot at hunting rabbits and foxes at a friend's property.

Membrey also comes complete with tattoo: a colourful anchor and palm tree that stretches from the top of his left shoulder to his elbow. It's another little point of difference to a player who, in an even draft, is setting himself apart.

"I've always been interested in the beach theme and one of my mates is a handy drawer so I got him to draw one up and the artist slapped it on," he said. "I'm happy with the half-sleeve at the moment."

palm tree and anchor. He belongs with us.

 

[IAMJUNGLEMUFFIN]

Well the Grand final winning team played two and a half KPF's in Reid, Morton and Goodes (half) who combined for five scoring shots and the GF losing team played two and a half in Franklin, Gunston and Roughead (half) who combined for thirteen scoring shots.

I think making the last game of the season may become easier with straight shooting big forwards but winning it may become a game of chance if you come to rely on them too much.

Morton and Goodes KPF?

What?

 

[Jezzitizle]

Rhetorical question?

Yeh pretty much

 

[IAMJUNGLEMUFFIN]

The bulldogs showed many times that key forwards arent needed to do well during the year.
Come finals time though they are desperately needed.
The pressure is too high and there isnt much time and space for great kicks inside 50.

Thats why key forwards are needed.
If you want to win a premiership u need key forward targets.

Can you name me a KPF from the past half a dozen or so GF's who has had a meaningful impact on the match?

The match winners/good players have almost exclusively been smalls.

 

[Kickett Punches Read]

We have KPP's, you kids are just wanting a future 10 time AA and Coleman medal winner.

Filling specific flaws or needs in your list will be far simpler to achieve now thanks to Free Agency, point in case Danyle Pearce. We went out, targetted and recruited a specific type of player to fill a specific need, what makes you think we will stop using that approach in the future? What makes you think that approach will be any less effective?

I'd suggest that picking up talls through Free Agency/trading would be far more successful than picking them up in the draft, we've all heard the argument before, but unless you are picking the absolute creme of the big men, you're strike rate isn't going to be very high.

We have picked up Dawson, Anthony, Faulks, Griffin, Moller, Silvagni in the past few years through drafting and trading. We effectively had Mitch Clark last year if we wanted to pay the price. That to me says there is a clear succession plan in place with regards to our big man stocks.



Rhetorical question?

of those, none of them will help us in the forwardline, two a ruckman, anthony and faulks will be lucky to be on our list in 2013, Dawson is a very solid full back and silvagni... well, it would surprise me to see him in other colours next year. our forwardline recruitment has been virtually non-existant. Yes we went after clark... but we didnt get him.

a ten time AA and coleman winner would be optimal.. however at the moment, i would settle for someone above 192 cm's who looks like they would regularly be able to kick 40 goals at AFL level