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Judd or Ablett?

Judd or Ablett

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But what are we talking about? This year? Career? Where we think they'll end up?

Ablett's clearly ahead over the last 18 months. But Judd is clearly ahead over their careers. If Judd can fully recover from his groin problems, I'd still pick him to have the better career. But I suspect it's six of one half-a-dozen of the other. They're both guns. Both groups of supporters are lucky to have them.
 

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Judd's lightyears ahead of the next best player in the AFL. The guy is a machine. Opposition routinely need to rotate 3-4 players off him, because there is just no one in the AFL that can go with Judd for 4 quarters. Selwood went with Judd for about 60% of the game V Weagles and almost collapsed with exhaustion in the last quarter. Remember also judd is only at about 70% of his usual fitness level at the moment, and it terms of midfielder development has a lot more unfulfilled potential, which we'll no doubt see after some coaching from Ratten, Bradley and Greg Williams. A Superstar. :)
 
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Judd's lightyears ahead of the next best player in the AFL. The guy is a machine. Opposition routinely need to rotate 3-4 players off him, because there is just no one in the AFL that can go with Judd for 4 quarters. Selwood went with Judd for about 60% of the game V Weagles and almost collapsed with exhaustion in the last quarter. Remember also judd is only at about 70% of his usual fitness level at the moment, and it terms of midfielder development has a lot more unfulfilled potential, which we'll no doubt see after some coaching from Ratten, Bradley and Greg Williams. A Superstar. :)

I also hear his tears cure cancer :rolleyes:
 
I love the comparison of a 80% fit Judd to a 100% fit Ablett. Im not taking anything away from Ablett, as he is clearly one of the best players in the competition, but lets go back to round 8 of last year.... Judd had 16 votes in the brownlow, polled in 8 consecutive games and then broke down. If he didnt it would have been the biggest avalanche ever seen. Give Judd a full pre-season and then re-assess.

Some people have short memories...
 
Both champions, Geelong and Carlton are both lucky to have these players.

Hawthorn are lucky to have a champion in Franklin, these players bring spectators to the football.

Why bother saying who is better, we should just thank our lucky stars that the AFL currently has 3 players which you could put a valid argument towards being the best player in the league.
 
Ablett, the form he is in, reminds me of judd from a couple of years ago. Juddy is a little restricted atm, once he gets over all the niggles he will get the strength in his kicking back and start doing more damage going forward
 
I love the comparison of a 80% fit Judd to a 100% fit Ablett. Im not taking anything away from Ablett, as he is clearly one of the best players in the competition, but lets go back to round 8 of last year.... Judd had 16 votes in the brownlow, polled in 8 consecutive games and then broke down. If he didnt it would have been the biggest avalanche ever seen. Give Judd a full pre-season and then re-assess.

Some people have short memories...

Yes but the umpires get erections whenever Judd gets the ball. All he needs is 15 touches and he gets the 3 votes
 
there's a difference between the most in-form player and the best player. judd is clearly hampered by an injury atm. he had no pre-season and it doesn't matter how good you are it is extremely difficult to play when you've had no pre-season. if judd can get a full pre-season under his belt next year and returns to full fitness and gains full power in his body he will rip the comp a new one. this year, he has been forced to develop his inside, contested game and he has taken that to a new level. he is the best inside player in the comp now. when he gets back his outside game next year, and he can add his new and improved inside game to his outside game, he willbe unstoppable. he will be the best inside player in the comp and the best outside player in the comp. then everyone will start debating who the 2nd best player in the league is out of buddy and ablett, cos there'll just be no competition for first place.
 

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Going by the premise of the OP, which is based on Gary Lyon's perplexing comment about who you would currently take out of Ablett or Judd, the answer is clearly Ablett. I don't think everyone who has voted in this poll has twigged that we are debating current form.
 
It seems the question is simply "Who would you rather", "Who is better", or "Who would you pick out of these two". How you choose to pick is up to you, some would go on current form, some on career form, some on potential.

Therefore:

Judd = Leadership qualities, great inspiration to young players, revenue for the club in sponsorships, memberships, and ticket sales, a high percentage of your clubs salary cap, a proven match-winner, the best player when fully fit, one of the best players when not fully fit.

Ablett = great inspiration to young players, a medium amount of salary cap space (more so after this year), a proven match-winner, the best current player in the afl.

I would pick Judd, due to providing more, but I am biased no doubt.
 

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If starting a new team and had too choose between the 2 i would say i would take judd, just fractionally ahead of gablett
 
Hate to say it, because I love Juddy, but from what we've now seen of Ablett, I'd take him over a 100% Judd.
 
I think he's actually gone past eagles judd, just because he can do it all, he can send the ball inside 50 and then mark it if it gets kicked out to the midfield again.

nah, no way. in his prime, judd was No.1.

he had it all really: pace, acceleration, evasiveness, long kick, a goal a game and he lifted every time we needed him to. he was a deadset gun from the 2004-early 07 period before he got injured.

Ablett's been a gun from 07...judd was up for longer.

i also think in time when his groin heals, he'll get back up there above ablett.
 
people forget just how good judd was and still is! he was a machine the best first 100 games ever played by anyone! when fully fit you have to choose judd he is so much more explosive then ablett! Ablett gets a huge amount of ball fed to him from marks from his team mates. Judd at his best gets the ball from the pack and explodes out of it!
At this very moment on form of course you pick ablett he will win the brownlow! but of what they have achieved to so far and consistency over there whole career judd wins hand down!
Judd is still only 24, Ablett is 25 and judd has been doing it since day dot!
 

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