Draft Watcher Knightmare's 2013 phantom draft

[Manimal_Dunstan]

Where abouts is Zac Webster expected to go?

 

[RedmanWasHere]

He's making good progress but still has some way to go before he even enters the first round conversation.

Unless Essendon sell up those first two draft picks this year Heppell should be available.

Thanks for that.

Just hope he plays well enough to enter clubs radar's but plods enough to be taken by the Dons.

 

[Thurlow2Mackie]

Where abouts is Zac Webster expected to go?

He is already one of Glenorchy's best players in my opinion, which is awesome for a guy his age. Played well in the TSL so far. I am not willing to call it at the moment, so much water to go under the bridge, but 40 wouldn't be a bad guess at this stages. Obviously could go much higher or lower depending on how his season unfolds.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

He is already one of Glenorchy's best players in my opinion, which is awesome for a guy his age. Played well in the TSL so far. I am not willing to call it at the moment, so much water to go under the bridge, but 40 wouldn't be a bad guess at this stages. Obviously could go much higher or lower depending on how his season unfolds.

Any relation of Jimmy Webster?

 

[Thurlow2Mackie]

Any relation of Jimmy Webster?

Yep. Younger brother.

 

[Manimal_Dunstan]

Yep. Younger brother.

This is why i asked actually, Would be nice to have the brothers . But i remember seeing some where he has been rated as the second/third best Tasmanian player

 

[Thurlow2Mackie]

This is why i asked actually, Would be nice to have the brothers . But i remember seeing some where he has been rated as the second/third best Tasmanian player

It's very hard to say. In my opinion, Kade Kolodjashnij, Eli Templeton, and Zac Webster have pretty even draft chances. I'd say they are all fairly likely to get drafted at this point, but trying to work out exactly what pick they would be is very difficult. All three are good athletes with sounds skills. I am reserving judgement until later in the season. There may even be a bolter or two this year from Tassie, I have hopes for a couple of other guys who haven't shown a lot yet, but could develop nicely this year.

 

[Rack Watts]

Willy Rioli is the cousin of Cyril. Very different build with the stronger body though. Heck of a talent though and will be very interesting to see whether he can go early-mid draft.

Dean v2?

 

[Legend23]

Hey Guys new to Big Footy so please bear with me but very interested in the TAC.

Any thoughts on Intra Club Trial for Vic Metro Squad tomorrow at Vizy Park

 

[Legend23]

Sorry Guys off to a bad start its actually not tomorrow its Sunday

 

[Sin City]

Hey Guys new to Big Footy so please bear with me but very interested in the TAC.

Any thoughts on Intra Club Trial for Vic Metro Squad tomorrow at Vizy Park

Hey L23, welcome aboard mate.

There's a TAC Cup board over here http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/forums/tac-cup.315/

 

[Knightmare]

Where abouts is Zac Webster expected to go?

Could be a mid-late draft option.

U18 champs will give us a better indication of where he sits in the pack.

 

[philthy05]

hey knightmare. do you rate any of these kids as real elite kicks? any goddard/ hurn / hartlett / s.burgoyne type kicks in this draft?

 

[Knightmare]

hey knightmare. do you rate any of these kids as real elite kicks? any goddard/ hurn / hartlett / s.burgoyne type kicks in this draft?

Luke McDonald is the only one in that really elite category with his kicking. Has great penetration but then hits those targets lace out.

Jack Billings is all class and could also be considered as that other guy in the conversation. He just doesn't have that same level explosion as much of a deadeye as he is on goal.

 

[philthy05]

yeah i just think those guys are worth their weight in gold and port have done well bringing some into their team (hartlett being fit, stevenson coming in. heath is a pretty good kick) but since stewie dew was at the club i have always loved players that can destroy defenses with their weapon. twice last week i watched hartlett almost hit the ruck circle from kick-ins. still a bit hit and miss with his kicks though.

want to see port bring in another elite kick, a mid with very good run carry and footskills and a pack busting key forward for life after shultz (i think butch can be a gun but will be more x-factor forward rather than make a contest type that i love and think port needs post shultz). will be following the progress of key forwards closely the next couple of years

 

[Sin City]

He is already one of Glenorchy's best players in my opinion, which is awesome for a guy his age. Played well in the TSL so far. I am not willing to call it at the moment, so much water to go under the bridge, but 40 wouldn't be a bad guess at this stages. Obviously could go much higher or lower depending on how his season unfolds.

Sounds about right. He's very quick, really good breakaway speed.

 

[Sin City]

Luke McDonald is the only one in that really elite category with his kicking. Has great penetration but then hits those targets lace out.

Jack Billings is all class and could also be considered as that other guy in the conversation. He just doesn't have that same level explosion as much of a deadeye as he is on goal.

Ben Lennon's kicking seems underrated. Wasn't mentioned in either thread when this question was asked. Has an elite kick similar to Shannon Hurn IMO.

 

[Yoda_]

Knightmare, Sin City

You guys have a grip on all things under 18 football. What are the rules/exceptions to playing 19 y.o's in the national championships? Noticed Essendon father/son option Jydon Neagle has been invited back to play for the Murray Bushrangers as an overager after breaking his leg (possibly? or something major last year?). He has started the year really well playing as that medium sized forward, kicked 9 and doing everything.

Could you shed some light on the championships selection.

Also, was thinking about what Essendon 'needs'. I certainly think we need a real utility type who can play anywhere. A McPhee type would be handy, someone who can play tall, but run like the wind as well. A ruckmen has to be selected as David Hille probably wont see out the year IMO. A small roving forward may also be needed. On top of that, a medium forward and perhaps a key position player may also be looked at (should Pears and Gumby not see out the year due to injury/form).

You did ask me earlier in this thread about state league prospects, keep an eye out on Ziggie Alwan from the Frankston Dolphins. Taken the same path as Tory Dickson (Noble Park/EDFL > Frankston Dolphins) and plays very, very similaraly to him as well. Clever, silky and someone who can do some damage should he be given time and space. He is one of my tips to keep an eye out on.

 

[Legend23]

Hey L23, welcome aboard mate.

There's a TAC Cup board over here http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/forums/tac-cup.315/

Thanks Sin City appreciate your cooments. Went along to see the trial match for Vic Metro on Saturday and even though no AIS Boys the standard was pretty good. Stand outs for me were
Freeman - Sandy Dragons strong on baller with great run and carry ability
Petracca - Eastern Rangers another strong onballer really good inside body shape may be a concern
Hayes - Sandy Dragons medium/tall forward probably best forward for the day untill moved down back for second half kicked 2.2 in first half could have been 4.0.
Kenndy Harris - Oakleigh Classy midfielder a little quite but showed really good skills when he did get it.

Anyone else get to the game interested in thoughts.

 

[Knightmare]

Knightmare, Sin City

You guys have a grip on all things under 18 football. What are the rules/exceptions to playing 19 y.o's in the national championships? Noticed Essendon father/son option Jydon Neagle has been invited back to play for the Murray Bushrangers as an overager after breaking his leg (possibly? or something major last year?). He has started the year really well playing as that medium sized forward, kicked 9 and doing everything.

Could you shed some light on the championships selection.

Also, was thinking about what Essendon 'needs'. I certainly think we need a real utility type who can play anywhere. A McPhee type would be handy, someone who can play tall, but run like the wind as well. A ruckmen has to be selected as David Hille probably wont see out the year IMO. A small roving forward may also be needed. On top of that, a medium forward and perhaps a key position player may also be looked at (should Pears and Gumby not see out the year due to injury/form).

You did ask me earlier in this thread about state league prospects, keep an eye out on Ziggie Alwan from the Frankston Dolphins. Taken the same path as Tory Dickson (Noble Park/EDFL > Frankston Dolphins) and plays very, very similaraly to him as well. Clever, silky and someone who can do some damage should he be given time and space. He is one of my tips to keep an eye out on.

19 y.o's can play in the u18 champs.

As I understand it you can include as many 19 y.o's on your list as you like but then from memory you can only play the two in your squad each week (someone correct me if I'm wrong - probably am).

You don't want much at Essendon?

I'll keep in mind those positional needs when I do a full draft. For me with Essendon it's more that second key defender to play with Carlisle who looks like one of the most improved in the competition and that second elite inside midfielder to take some pressure off Watson.

Back before that game v Freo started on my Twitter I made an update loosely suggesting that Essendon were a genuine premiership threat and until that injury list starts to build I like your chances of making the grand final and making some noise.

Will look out for Ziggie Alwan. It's often those who come up from the lower grades and come from nowhere so you might be onto something.

 

[Hellgood]

I'll keep in mind those positional needs when I do a full draft. For me with Essendon it's more that second key defender to play with Carlisle who looks like one of the most improved in the competition and that second elite inside midfielder to take some pressure off Watson.

I reckon Essendon have some pretty good depth for key defenders, Hooker is a pretty decent defender I think, often does his job, but gets pretty unfairly malinged because he looks so ungainly and his disposal isn't safe enough. Pears was great early in his career, unfortunately injuries have set him back a long way and when he did return last year he didn't look as though he had any confidence whatsoever and it showed with his usually good and creative disposal causing too many turnovers. Glad to see that he is back playing some good footy in the VFL and will hopefully work his way back into the best 22.

I don't think that the Bombers have any glaring holes, they have plenty of big bodied inside midfielders, they've got guys with pace, they have an abundance of key forwards and defenders as well as a couple of pretty handy ruckmen. I think they'd be best served going for the best available player regardless of position.

 

[Yoda_]

I reckon Essendon have some pretty good depth for key defenders, Hooker is a pretty decent defender I think, often does his job, but gets pretty unfairly malinged because he looks so ungainly and his disposal isn't safe enough. Pears was great early in his career, unfortunately injuries have set him back a long way and when he did return last year he didn't look as though he had any confidence whatsoever and it showed with his usually good and creative disposal causing too many turnovers. Glad to see that he is back playing some good footy in the VFL and will hopefully work his way back into the best 22.

I don't think that the Bombers have any glaring holes, they have plenty of big bodied inside midfielders, they've got guys with pace, they have an abundance of key forwards and defenders as well as a couple of pretty handy ruckmen. I think they'd be best served going for the best available player regardless of position.

The once envious strength of Essendon's key position stocks has crashed and burnt really. If we could improve hooker that'd be a bonus, our inside midfielders are good, just need to improve on a couple with the young outside types we have picked up in the last couple of drafts. A small forward is a necessity to develop. And a young, raw ruckmen is also a priority IMO.

 

[Daz]

Thanks Sin City appreciate your cooments. Went along to see the trial match for Vic Metro on Saturday and even though no AIS Boys the standard was pretty good. Stand outs for me were
Freeman - Sandy Dragons strong on baller with great run and carry ability
Petracca - Eastern Rangers another strong onballer really good inside body shape may be a concern
Hayes - Sandy Dragons medium/tall forward probably best forward for the day untill moved down back for second half kicked 2.2 in first half could have been 4.0.
Kenndy Harris - Oakleigh Classy midfielder a little quite but showed really good skills when he did get it.

Anyone else get to the game interested in thoughts.

Did you happen to notice Luke McDonald out there? Over on the North board we suspect he had limited time in the VFL this Saturday because of the Metro trial game.

 

[Bremner20]

Been to a couple of Gippy Power games this year ,keep an eye on 2 overagers in Muir and Josh Scott and of those just coming into draft age this year Jack Leslie (197cm Ruckman) and of course Aaron Heppell as well next year there will be a kid called Bodey Walker ,grandson of ex-saint Rob Muir excellent athlete and tremendous kick off either foot played some brilliant footy last year for Sale in the seniors as a 15yr old.

 

[Legend23]

Did you happen to notice Luke McDonald out there? Over on the North board we suspect he had limited time in the VFL this Saturday because of the Metro trial game.

Luke was there but didn't play. I suspect he has already secured a spot