Lachlan Henderson V Scott Gumbleton

[BluesKreuz]

Who is currently better and who will eventually become the better player?

 

[Joshen]

Tough to judge so far as Gumby has had his well documented injury concerns. But I picked Hansen (biased but whatever) purely because hes shown his versatility being switched forward for the second half of this year and has proved he can match it with the best (kicking 4 goals against quality defences: Geelong and St Kilda).

However both should show why they were picked so high in their draft, hopefully sooner rather than later.

EDIT: I am retarted read it as Hansen. Was trying to figure out why a Carlton was so interested in our player. Luckily hadn't voted yet.

 

[Bombers36]

Have to say Im baised & think Gumby is better, but when I looked at the stats they are suprisingly evenly matched...


Gumby 22 games, Ave Disposals 10, Ave Marks 5, Ave Goals 1, Ave Tackles 1.6
Henderson 34 games, Ave Disposals 10, Ave Marks 4.6, Ave Goals 0.8, Ave Tackles 1.8


So maybe theres not as much between them as I thought....

 

[didaka]

Despite all the shit Henderson cops for being a Carlton player now at times, he really came on towards the end of last year, and as for Gumby if he ever gets a clear run at it, well we all know how talented he is.

I think they'll both be extremely good players for the clubs, but if Gumby hits his best, he'll be the better player, but it should be very close regardless.

I really like both as players. 2 of the better young key forwards on the rise, and I think they'll go a long way to prove that in 2011. They're both getting to that age now where they'll really find their feet at the level.

 

[echelon]

As the stats show, both are quite evenly matched and were picked high in the draft for obvious reasons.

I think Henderson has better 1st/2nd efforts but I think Gumbleton's aerial ability is much better.

Henderson is also a bit more flexible in being able to help out in the backline but I don't think Gumbleton has that ability - he might in later years when he develops his body more.

I think Gumbleton is probably more exciting and seems to have a bit more X-factor about him though.

 

[didaka]

One thing for sure is Brisbane should'nt have let Henderson walk out the door.

 

[Ambrosia]

One thing for sure is Brisbane should'nt have let Henderson walk out the door.

They traded him and a pick for Fev.

 

[didaka]

They traded him and a pick for Fev.

I know this. Shocking blue.

Lucas and Henderson for Fev.

Talia also available at the pick Brisbane traded. Could've secured their key position stocks for the future.

 

[Silvagnis]

As the stats show, both are quite evenly matched and were picked high in the draft for obvious reasons.

I think Henderson has better 1st/2nd efforts but I think Gumbleton's aerial ability is much better.

Henderson is also a bit more flexible in being able to help out in the backline but I don't think Gumbleton has that ability - he might in later years when he develops his body more.

I think Gumbleton is probably more exciting and seems to have a bit more X-factor about him though.

Agree that Gumbleton would probably be the more exciting talent due to his height and marking. Yet Henderson would arguably be the better kick of the two. Henderson isn't a race horse with his speed off the mark, yet he keeps presenting and backing up. Henderson's ability at ground level with his second and third efforts reminds me of Kreuzer.

 

[Sin City]

Henderson really came on in the second half of last season, all signs are good. Really hope that Gumbleton will stop getting injured.

 

[Frothies Mcveigh]

Stats wise they are very similar, maybe a bit bias but I am voting for Gumby.

 

[Linc]

Picked Henderson, but agree with a lot of things already said. The next season should be telling

I really hate thinking about that trade Fev'll be decent value if he can stay fit!

 

[theboxmike]

Both will be very good players in the future hopefully. I really see Hendo coming along next year (as shown at the end of last season). But gumby i can't help but have the feeling he's going to have one more long term injury and that will be the end of him.

 

[Jeremias]

Right now, Hendo is in front.

If Gumby ever stays fit, it'll be a closer comparison most probably.

Gotta love the use of stats to demonstrate how close they are - I wasn't aware that Gumby has spent a significant part of his career to date as a defender.

 

[TradeDraft]

They traded him and a pick for Fev.

Well Why would you Trade for a Young and Up Coming KPF for one who is Passed it and Sooks when he does not get the Ball. Also is a nighmare off the Field

 

[Hodgepodge]

Gumbleton has more improvement left in him.

At this stage Henderson is more or less a ready made player while Gumbleton has yet to fill out.

 

[LemmingMaster]

Gumbleton has more improvement left in him.

At this stage Henderson is more or less a ready made player while Gumbleton has yet to fill out.

Not sure Henderson is ready made as yet, he is moving towards being ready made, but I would say 2013 is when you will start to see the fruits of his development. Then again, Gumby assuming he stays healthy will also be on the same upwards trend.

 

[guruisatiger]

me thinks gumby has more talent and more tools to work with ,injury is a major worry,, hendo i think will become a very reliable consistent performer and probably end up the better player but if they can get gumby 100% fit then he should just nudge out hendo..Obviously gumby was a more highly rated junior than hendo and if they were both starting out now id take gumby,, very good poll hard one to answer but i think the blues in hendo have a similar player to earl spalding with a better kick good luck to both of them

 

[bombermick]

Gumby- Well-documented injury issues, although he managed to play 17 games last season. Is really a second year player, even though he's in his early 20s. He is a better mark than Henderson and he has elite endurance (plus 15 beep test). He needs to work on his goal-kicking. If he can stay injury-free he could become a part-time ruckman, as he did well against Nic Nat when the Fijian was smashing us last season.

Hendo- He's not quite as talented as Gumby, but he's a workhorse and he has a good set of hands. He showed a bit towards the end of last season and Carlton will be estastic in getting he and Lucas for Fev. They don't need Henderson to be a star, they merely need a good workhorse forward who can present a contest and bring the ball down to Betts, Yarran and Garlett. He's almost the cream.

 

[Black Flag]

henderson is more than just a "workhorse". yes, he has a great engine, but that term implies he lacks talent... he does not.

it's true that he is not as strong as gumby in the air, but on the ground he has him covered. hendo's low pick ups on the run are exquisite.

both players are still finding their true level and will continue to do so for a few years yet.

i'll say hendo on the fact he has the far superior body.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

must admit, I thought Hendo was a complete spud. An out and out truck.

Then he finally showed something, and I though hmm, maybe I could have been wrong about this one.

He came a long way to redeeming himself in my eyes, but still has a long way to go. But so does Gumby, let's not kid ourselves.

Whoever said Hendo has arguably a better kick is ****ing dreaming. At this point there's nothing arguable about it. He definitely does, it's Gumby's biggest weakness at this point (apart from the injury and being skinny thing).

I still think Gumby has shown more at this stage, and I definitely think Gumby will be by far the better player.

But maybe Hendo isn't a complete spud. If he can keep up his form from the second half of last year he could be a player

 

[Lance Uppercut]

Tough to judge so far as Gumby has had his well documented injury concerns. But I picked Hansen (biased but whatever) purely because hes shown his versatility being switched forward for the second half of this year and has proved he can match it with the best (kicking 4 goals against quality defences: Geelong and St Kilda).

However both should show why they were picked so high in their draft, hopefully sooner rather than later.

EDIT: I am retarted read it as Hansen. Was trying to figure out why a Carlton was so interested in our player. Luckily hadn't voted yet.

so who did you vote for then once you'd worked it out

 

[jonoman89]

It's impossible to say.

Henderson is turning 21 in the next few days. He's not going to plateau in his development until hitting at least 24. He has heaps of room for natural improvement.

Carlton supporters love Hendo because he has a phenomenal work rate. One of the highest i've seen in any AFL forward.

Gumby is arguably a better athlete, but injures could prevent him from becoming the player he should be.

I think it's a safer bet to say Hendersen will become a class forward rather than Gumby due to that reason.

 

[ringo200]

must admit, I thought Hendo was a complete spud. An out and out truck.

Then he finally showed something, and I though hmm, maybe I could have been wrong about this one.

He came a long way to redeeming himself in my eyes, but still has a long way to go. But so does Gumby, let's not kid ourselves.

Whoever said Hendo has arguably a better kick is ****ing dreaming. At this point there's nothing arguable about it. He definitely does, it's Gumby's biggest weakness at this point (apart from the injury and being skinny thing).

I still think Gumby has shown more at this stage, and I definitely think Gumby will be by far the better player.

But maybe Hendo isn't a complete spud. If he can keep up his form from the second half of last year he could be a player

My thoughts pretty much. I remember watching Henderson at the start of the year, hard hands, was continously missing marks that you have to take to be a key forward, and when he did get the ball his kicking wasn't great. Can remember a couple of pretty bad shanks from the start of the year.

The end of the year was almost like watching a different player. Can remember some really strong one grab marks, very good signs for a young key forward.

Everytime I've watched Gumbleton play I've come away super impressed with his marking, but his kicking leaves a lot to be desired.

 

[Jesse Custer]

Henderson really came on towards the tail end of the season. Played well. Gumbleton showed quite a bit during the season as well so even on that score in my opinion.

The crucial factor is fitness. Henderson has shown to be a little bit more reliable than Gumby and that will be the crucial factor. If Gumbleton can stay fit, watch out AFL.