Lachlan Henderson V Scott Gumbleton

[WN123]

Henderson really came on towards the tail end of the season. Played well. Gumbleton showed quite a bit during the season as well so even on that score in my opinion.

The crucial factor is fitness. Henderson has shown to be a little bit more reliable than Gumby and that will be the crucial factor. If Gumbleton can stay fit, watch out AFL.

I think if they both reach there potential Gumby will be a better player but Hendo seems more likely to reach his potential

 

[bombermick]

henderson is more than just a "workhorse". yes, he has a great engine, but that term implies he lacks talent... he does not.

it's true that he is not as strong as gumby in the air, but on the ground he has him covered. hendo's low pick ups on the run are exquisite.

both players are still finding their true level and will continue to do so for a few years yet.

i'll say hendo on the fact he has the far superior body.

It wasn't a derogatory term, more the fact that he's a hard-working forward with good mobility, but lacks the leap or sure hands of Gumby. Gumby's issues are well-known. He's only managed to play one (almost) complete season and he needs to work on his kicking. If he can build up some muscle and stay injury free, Essendon will be able to build their forward line around him, releasing Hurley to the back half.

Hendo is a good pick-up for the Blues and they're huge winners from the Fev trade. Fev if he gets fit will kick twice as many goals as Hendo, but Hendo can be a 10-year forward for the Blues.

 

[TigerTime88]

Pretty even, both have alot to do.

Considering they are both KPP whose job primarily is to be the target and take grabs I would have to say Gumbelton. Also because he probably has a higher upside in terms of oppurunity so far and also his tank. Very close though, could easily go either way.

 

[The OBSTacle]

Who is currently better

Henderson.

and who will eventually become the better player?

Gumbleton, if he can stay on the park.

How am I supposed to vote?

 

[Blueboys7]

I think that Gumbleton, if fit, will become the better player but not by that much. I voted Hendo because I think he is the better chance at becoming a good player.

I was defendin Hendo all year and he really started to put some solid games together around the mid year mark and then showed that he was some class about him and that he could become a very good player.

I have been impressed with Gumby but I have my doubts that he can get to the right size to compete as a CHF even if he remains fit. Really like his talent and it will be interesting to see how he goes over the next few seasons.

 

[GordonBlue]

I voted Henderson cause I go for Carlton...

 

[barmyarmy]

currently henderson has gumby covered but may change in the future but i doubt it i dont think he will ever get on the track enough gumbleton

 

[The Edukator]

Voted Henderson because of his rate of improvement. If he continues at this rate he will be a very strong player in the future. Hopefully able to consistently kick 60 goals a season which I have no doubt will pit Carlton in a very strong position and challenge for flags.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

I'm not sure I rate Henderson as a star of the future, but I honestly don't see what the hype is about with Gumbleton.

He's only managed multiple goals in a game 7 times - Henderson has done it 9 times, and he's spent a fair bit of time playing in defense.

I'd take Henderson, but there are a fair few better young KPFs than both out there - Jack Riewoldt, Taylor Walker, Chris Dawes and Jarrad Grant all have better goal kicking numbers than both, and better numbers in general.

Even the much-maligned Tom Hawkins had a comparable goal average to Gumbleton and Henderson, and he spent a portion of the year playing in the ruck.

 

[ringo200]

I'm not sure I rate Henderson as a star of the future, but I honestly don't see what the hype is about with Gumbleton.

He's only managed multiple goals in a game 7 times - Henderson has done it 9 times, and he's spent a fair bit of time playing in defense.

I'd take Henderson, but there are a fair few better young KPFs than both out there - Jack Riewoldt, Taylor Walker, Chris Dawes and Jarrad Grant all have better goal kicking numbers than both, and better numbers in general.

Even the much-maligned Tom Hawkins had a comparable goal average to Gumbleton and Henderson, and he spent a portion of the year playing in the ruck.

The upside I see in Gumbleton is he is simply an outstanding contested mark and that is an invaluable assett to have in your forwardline.

 

[The Edukator]

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=742049

is jack watts really that far ahead of henderson and perhaps even gumbleton too?

i think not..

 

[bombermick]

I'm not sure I rate Henderson as a star of the future, but I honestly don't see what the hype is about with Gumbleton.

He's only managed multiple goals in a game 7 times - Henderson has done it 9 times, and he's spent a fair bit of time playing in defense.

I'd take Henderson, but there are a fair few better young KPFs than both out there - Jack Riewoldt, Taylor Walker, Chris Dawes and Jarrad Grant all have better goal kicking numbers than both, and better numbers in general.

Even the much-maligned Tom Hawkins had a comparable goal average to Gumbleton and Henderson, and he spent a portion of the year playing in the ruck.

It's that dirty P word, but the fact he managed to kick multiple goals 7 times in his first full season is a pretty good return. He is a fantastic mark, possessing great hands and he has midfielder-like endurance.

The big query is if his body can stand the rigours of getting in the gym and building more muscle. There were too many times he was out-muscled by smaller opponents last season.

Riewoldt is certainly ahead of them both atm, but he wouldn't have been too far ahead at the start of last season. Still plenty of water to go under the bridge. FWIW I give Jarrad Grant every chance of having a better career than both Henderson and Gumby, due to his amazing speed off the mark.

 

[barmyarmy]

jack watts is behind the both of them

 

[Slattery_20]

Grant is a jet.

 

[The Bomb]

Would the Midfield make a differance, in terms of who is kicking the ball to them, how many inside 50s they get. Carlton played finals Essendon 14th.
just cant wait to see Gumby with better delivery and in a team which can make the finals.
Gumby has a marking ability which no defender will be able to stop.
give them 2 more years and we will see if Gumby is still on the park.

 

[Claude Balls]

For some reason I just don't rate Henderson. Gumby obviously has issues getting himself fit, but if he ever does he's got a much higher ceiling IMO.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

It's that dirty P word, but the fact he managed to kick multiple goals 7 times in his first full season is a pretty good return. He is a fantastic mark, possessing great hands and he has midfielder-like endurance.

The big query is if his body can stand the rigours of getting in the gym and building more muscle. There were too many times he was out-muscled by smaller opponents last season.

Riewoldt is certainly ahead of them both atm, but he wouldn't have been too far ahead at the start of last season. Still plenty of water to go under the bridge. FWIW I give Jarrad Grant every chance of having a better career than both Henderson and Gumby, due to his amazing speed off the mark.

My point in listing those other players is that there are plenty of people in this thread expecting one or both of Gumbleton and Henderson to become 50+ goal kickers, when the reality is that if there's a littany of equal or better prospects out there, the likelihood of them ALL becoming 50+ goal kickers is remote.

 

[Slattery_20]

I don't think Gumby will consistently be a 50+ goalkicker.
Very few guys who play away from the 50 as much as he does, can.
150 marks and maybe 35 goals? Hells yes.

 

[bombermick]

50 goals would be sensational. 35 to 40 would be great if he continues leading up to the wings and been the link man. If he gets a big stronger he'll take more marks closer to goal and 35 won't be a problem. Let's see if he can add weight without having any injury problems.

 

[rusman]

I can see Gumby playing a similar brand to Roo (not saying will do it as well) and Roo averages around 50 goals a year so i doubt very much Gumby would do much better. If so I would be stoked and be happy to have the number 3 on my back

 

[HyperAgressiveDonk]

No, you're trolling. Nothing you said in that post is a fact.

North Melbourne have a shit membership base, a shit supporter base and should move interstate.

Fact (albeit off topic), or trolling?

Go have a wank over Hansen on the North Board where people care about him. He's completely and utterly irrelevant in this thread.

Meh, Henderson and Gumbleton I don't rate. Hansen will be better than them both I think

 

[carntheroos4eva]

Voted Gumbleton only by a bees dick. Lachlan Henderson is only new.

 

[Smyth94]

Meh, Henderson and Gumbleton I don't rate. Hansen will be better than them both I think

Start a poll about it then, he's irrelevant to this one.

 

[Jeremias]

Meh, Henderson and Gumbleton I don't rate. Hansen will be better than them both I think

Do you understand the notion of relevance?

 

[Alpha1]

Henderson for me, altough I am a Carlton fan, I have been very impressed with him, has come on in leaps and bounds over 2010 and another good pre season and more confidence in himself will see him taking the next step in 2011.

All in all very happy we got him and Lucas out of the Fev trade, we need someone like Henderson, has a good tank to play CHF, is a good kick at goal from 50, is a good team man, and works his balls off, rather him than Fev.