Lenny Hayes vs Joel Corey - now with a poll

[Lynch takes a mark]

Which player is better?

Which player would you rather have on your team?

I feel both these players are underated.

 

[Bring-Back-Powell]

Lenny Hayes by the length of the Murray River.

Interesting poll....to say the least

 

[HBK619]

Honestly I don't rate Corey, stick him in another side and he would just be an average midfielder.

Hayes is one of those players that wins you games, Corey just gets disposals, nothing special.

 

[Claude Balls]

Lenny Hayes' best is better than Joel Corey's... but Joel had a better 2007 obviously because Hayes was injured. If Hayes doesn't get back to his best, then we will have to revisit the question.

 

[tin can sam]

Honestly I don't rate Corey, stick him in another side and he would just be an average midfielder.

Hayes is one of those players that wins you games, Corey just gets disposals, nothing special.

strange opinion, as he was the only player in the AFL to finish top 5 for disposals, tackles and clearances, hardly "just disposals."

 

[PieLebo87]

strange opinion, as he was the only player in the AFL to finish top 5 for disposals, tackles and clearances, hardly "just disposals."

Rocca had the most contested marks in the AFL last year. Do you rate him now?

 

[Claude Balls]

Rocca had the most contested marks in the AFL last year. Do you rate him now?

Yes, but as a forward, how many goals did he kick, and how many assists did he give, in addition to those 2.7 contested marks per game. That's the point Tin Can Sam is making, Corey had a lot of possesions, AND a lot of clearances AND a lot of tackles... you appear to have missed the point.

 

[tin can sam]

Yes, but as a forward, how many goals did he kick, and how many assists did he give, in addition to those 2.7 contested marks per game. That's the point Tin Can Sam is making, Corey had a lot of possesions, AND a lot of clearances AND a lot of tackles... you appear to have missed the point.

thanks, saved me the trouble of reasoning with a Collingwood fan.

 

[Claude Balls]

No probs, though I'm not sure why I even bothered... PieLebo is notoriously biased.

 

[Divado]

When fit Lenny is in the top 10 midfielders in the league maybe even top 5. He is an absolute gun.

 

[PieLebo87]

Yes, but as a forward, how many goals did he kick, and how many assists did he give, in addition to those 2.7 contested marks per game. That's the point Tin Can Sam is making, Corey had a lot of possesions, AND a lot of clearances AND a lot of tackles... you appear to have missed the point.

Not as many as was expected, but thats the point. He is our #1 forward. The #1 backmen go to Rocca. It appears you've missed HBK619 and my point. Put Corey in a team where he becomes the 2nd best midfielder or 1st, and he'll struggle. Put Shane O'Bree in that Geelong midfield behind Ablett, Enright, Selwood and Ling and he'll also dominate.

Its the same theory with Carlton, with the likes of Judd and Stevens in the team, players like Murphy and Gibbs will be less watched by the opposition and have better seasons then if they were #1 and #2 midfielders.

Don't get me wrong mate, I rate Corey, but he isn't up to the standards of Lenny Hayes because Hayes IS more of a matchwinner and attracts more attention and heat as a midfielder then Corey does, who has gone through unnoticed, but coaches will be more aware of him next year, because of the season he did have this season. So really, the test starts now for him.

 

[davey_magik]

Hayes for me.
Far more damaging than Corey.

 

[bluesforever]

Corey easy, very consistant in a very good side. Hayes isn't in his league. Corey is very under rated.

 

[BlueDevil]

Lenny Hayes for me. joel corey plays more of a team orientated game, where as hayes can be both team orientated and be just as effective as an impact player.

 

[HBK619]

Not as many as was expected, but thats the point. He is our #1 forward. The #1 backmen go to Rocca. It appears you've missed HBK619 and my point. Put Corey in a team where he becomes the 2nd best midfielder or 1st, and he'll struggle. Put Shane O'Bree in that Geelong midfield behind Ablett, Enright, Selwood and Ling and he'll also dominate.

Its the same theory with Carlton, with the likes of Judd and Stevens in the team, players like Murphy and Gibbs will be less watched by the opposition and have better seasons then if they were #1 and #2 midfielders.

Don't get me wrong mate, I rate Corey, but he isn't up to the standards of Lenny Hayes because Hayes IS more of a matchwinner and attracts more attention and heat as a midfielder then Corey does, who has gone through unnoticed, but coaches will be more aware of him next year, because of the season he did have this season. So really, the test starts now for him.

100% agree.

 

[Schmick]

Lenny is quality, much better player than Corey.

 

[smelly cat]

I think Hayes is more damaging than Corey, but Corey really is a 4 quarter specialist. I really can't think of too many AFL players that can run out a match better than Corey can. Considering the injuries that Hayes has suffered and the amount that he has slowed, I would take corey as he is better suited to the faster paced game and has bette endurance. But if Hayes is more of a match winner.

 

[CrazyQ]

Rocca had the most contested marks in the AFL last year. Do you rate him now?

He also kicked 50.

So yes.

 

[Rockford]

Not as many as was expected, but thats the point. He is our #1 forward. The #1 backmen go to Rocca. It appears you've missed HBK619 and my point. Put Corey in a team where he becomes the 2nd best midfielder or 1st, and he'll struggle. Put Shane O'Bree in that Geelong midfield behind Ablett, Enright, Selwood and Ling and he'll also dominate.

Its the same theory with Carlton, with the likes of Judd and Stevens in the team, players like Murphy and Gibbs will be less watched by the opposition and have better seasons then if they were #1 and #2 midfielders.

Don't get me wrong mate, I rate Corey, but he isn't up to the standards of Lenny Hayes because Hayes IS more of a matchwinner and attracts more attention and heat as a midfielder then Corey does, who has gone through unnoticed, but coaches will be more aware of him next year, because of the season he did have this season. So really, the test starts now for him.

Not a matchwinner? Can't imagine why a Pies supporter wouldn't rate Corey

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[Cheshire Cat]

Joel is a good possession-getter but has poor disposal at times and frustrates the hell out of me sometimes.

So I'm going with Hayes

 

[serbkoolie]

For me this is very close.

 

[serbkoolie]

I say Hayes by a hair

 

[timmyhass]

How could you not rate Corey!!
He is becoming one of the best midfielders in the league and at any other club he would dominate!!

 

[Sainters08]

I rate them both very highly. But for me it's Hayes.

IMO - Corey wouldn't be as good as he is now if Ablett + Bartel weren't in his team

 

[geelong_crazy26]

I tell you what, ablett and bartell must be close to the best players ever because every time someone starts a thread about rating a geelong player or comparing them to another player we always here that the player looks better because he plays for geelong

people geelong have the best team because they have the best players