Luke Jericho Recalled- Why?!!!

[Southerntakeover]

The Eagles are much taller than the Dogs and last week the theory was we onl went with two rucks because of that.

Surely this week we need three given the history of Cox and Seaby smashing us, not to mention Lynch, Hunter, Staker etc who we have to deal with.

This might not be the approach we've taken.

Its almost certain that we will lose the ruck this week, and im sure the coaches are aware of it. Perhaps we've decided to place more emphasis on winning the battle of the midfielders, and rove the opposition ruckman?

Im reasonably sure we have enough tall players in the team to match up on the Eagles.

 

[crowsup]

I think that Drummond should apply to the AFC for the jobs of: Head Coach, defense, center and forward coach, chairman of selectors and chief talent spotter. By the sound of it, he can do all these jobs by himself. But wait, there is more.... He is a real FIGJAM. He can be man that gets rid of all the dead wood, useless players in the team.

My one and only concern is that if he has his way, the playing list will get turned over so often that we would never get any experienced players in the team.

 

[-CG-]

I'd say the fact he can go forward and kick goals, compared to Campbell who is usually played in defense for the Crows, would have been the main factor.

I read somewhere that the Eagles have kept us below our average score in the past so many games against them, so with that in mind we need some extra goal kickers and Jericho can do that.

 

[Southerntakeover]

I read somewhere that if you’re above a certain age the initial deal doesn’t have to be 2 years, but I have no idea. Would be good if we got some clarification because I can’t see one reason as to why he’s still on the list with the way he’s being managed.

I dont know whether or not the initial deal HAS to be 2 years, but it isnt that relevant once hes been signed... All that matters is he was given a two year deal, and so it would have been a waste to cut him after one regardless. Short of serious behavioural problems, i dont see a situation in which this happens.

 

[H.C.F.C]

I think that Drummond should apply to the AFC for the jobs of: Head Coach, defense, center and forward coach, chairman of selectors and chief talent spotter. By the sound of it, he can do all these jobs by himself. But wait, there is more.... He is a real FIGJAM. He can be man that gets rid of all the dead wood, useless players in the team.

My one and only concern is that if he has his way, the playing list will get turned over so often that we would never get any experienced players in the team.

Grow up lad

He makes sense MOST of the time.

 

[Southerntakeover]

I'd say the fact he can go forward and kick goals, compared to Campbell who is usually played in defense for the Crows, would have been the main factor.

I read somewhere that the Eagles have kept us below our average score in the past so many games against them, so with that in mind we need some extra goal kickers and Jericho can do that.

Id agree with this. The way i see it, the Campbell/Jericho comparision is misplaced. Campbell and Massie are the ones who play the same role.

Jericho for Reilly... two attacking runners with goal kicking potential.

Massie for Shirley... Two defensive midfielders.

 

[Jars458]

Maybe the coaching staff are expecting it to rain on Saturday which would be the only reason I could see them not picking Maric. If it isn't raining or wet then it would be a bad decision to leave him out imo, but if it is raining than I could see Maric being quite useless around the ground.

Fair point as it may well be wet on Saturday. A late change if it stays dry perhaps?

 

[Macca19]

The only player i can remember ever being cut from the crows after one year is Obst...

Clint Kirey was another i reckon.

 

[crowman_23]

I can't believe it. I'm behind you the whole way Drummond. Disgraceful selection. I just can't understand why the selectors keep giving him a game here and there. He has had enough, more than enough of a chance to show the club he has something and has continually failed. All those saying about the AFC being right, and they see something, they obviously do, but the majority of supporters see something different. The AFC are not always right, in fact they have been wrong quite a bit.

I just cannot believe he has been picked at all, let alone over other players. Ridiculous selection.

 

[Mismatched]

Maybe the coaching staff are expecting it to rain on Saturday which would be the only reason I could see them not picking Maric. If it isn't raining or wet then it would be a bad decision to leave him out imo, but if it is raining than I could see Maric being quite useless around the ground.

Thats a good point, if it does rain, that would probably limit the effectiveness of all the WC talls and a smaller, running outfit would be the go, I still think Drummond has made a fair point re Jericho over Cambell.

 

[Dandy_GO]

Id agree with this. The way i see it, the Campbell/Jericho comparision is misplaced. Campbell and Massie are the ones who play the same role.

Jericho for Reilly... two attacking runners with goal kicking potential.

Massie for Shirley... Two defensive midfielders.

Both are a stretch. It's hardly a like-for-like scenario.

Reilly, whilst he started as an outside mid, is very much an inside player for us now. Jericho is probably the least likely to win a hard ball of anyone on our list.

Massie is a utility. Odds are we'll play him in defence. Shirley is an inside midfielder.

The only rationale for having Jericho in the side that I can see is a) that it may be wet, and 3 bigmen would be risky
b) we want to release Goodwin and Edwards into the middle. Jericho will play up forward to allow this.

 

[Southerntakeover]

Both are a stretch. It's hardly a like-for-like scenario.

Reilly, whilst he started as an outside mid, is very much an inside player for us now. Jericho is probably the least likely to win a hard ball of anyone on our list.

Massie is a utility. Odds are we'll play him in defence. Shirley is an inside midfielder.

The only rationale for having Jericho in the side that I can see is a) that it may be wet, and 3 bigmen would be risky
b) we want to release Goodwin and Edwards into the middle. Jericho will play up forward to allow this.

Both are certainly a stretch. I never said its an equal trade off. They also dont necessarily take the exact same role as the other, but perhaps they free others to do that instead.

On the Reilly inside player thing... yeah, thats a fair comment, i was referring more to the way we use him as the running long goal kicking player. The amount of times hes the guy who gets the long shot is amazing. This is something Jericho might be able to do. More likely is that Jericho plays off a flank, and Goodwin comes back into the mid to do this.

On the Shirley 'inside midfielder'... hes a negater, either up forward or in defence (Brad Johnson). This is also primarily the role we use Massie in when he plays. I think he goes back, and van Berlo becomes the main Kerr minder.

 

[Smoooothy]

here we go again...

good luck jezza, hope you have a blinder mate

 

[Dandy_GO]

On the Shirley 'inside midfielder'... hes a negater, either up forward or in defence (Brad Johnson). This is also primarily the role we use Massie in when he plays. I think he goes back, and van Berlo becomes the main Kerr minder.

Shirley wins as much of the hardball as anyone. Yeah, he's a negater, but he generally tags midfield. Johnson was an example of why he's not like Massie.
Massie we primarily use on mid sized forwards. Both can do the others role, but not to great effect - hence why we don't throw Mass in the centre, and why Shirley sucked ass on BJ.
But yeah, I get, and agree with, your overall point.

 

[pjcrows]

I never thought I would agree with Drummond

Not in the same "the world is going to end" sense, but I theoretically agree with him.

Bryce Campbell ought to be feeling dead stiff at the moment. I know, Reilly was an attacking midfielder who kicks some goals, but why do we always have to pick the exact replica of a player when they get injured? Why not go for the best available player?

I hope he kicks 5 and wins us the game, but I just don't know why he's playing again.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

The ONLY reason I can think off as to why Jericho was selected was because he can play FF, Wing, or HBF ....thus giving Craig more flexibility than Campbell ......but it still grates

 

[Blue Red and Gold]

Think about this mate. Seeing as though Campbell wasn’t selected this week, there is NO need for him on our list.

Relly: Out
Knights: Out
Shirley: Out

And yet there is still no room for Bryce. On top of this, he was named best a field in the Norwood/Port trial last week. So there are injuries to key midfielders, and he’s in good form, and he can get a game.

His “AFL” form this year is a game against Collingwood where he was average. The next week he was much improved against Fremantle, but then he was dropped. He was recalled to play the NAB Cup GF, where he played 8 minutes. So between the game against the Saints and now, he’s been bumped down the pecking order. But how can that be? He was named an emergency last week, and played well for Norwood. More injuries to midfielders and he still can’t get a game.

I’m not saying he’ll be a gun midfielder at the top level, I’m not saying he’ll be a dud either. All I’m saying is that from where I sit it’s puzzling as to why he was retained.

Valid points

As I mentioned on another thread, it must be training form or something, it doesnt make sense any other way.

 

[Rave Slave]

Everyone just attacks Drummond for the sake of attacking Drummond on this board but FFS he has a point.

What has this bloke shown in his stellar career at the Adelaide Crows to suggest he's going to be a positive impact at AFL level anytime soon? I still question what this bloke did to warrant a position on our list ahead of one Jason Torney.

Forget past history, what standout quality has he even displayed over the preseason to suggest that he's no longer a squib and will actually contest to a level required to play AFL?

NOTHING! NONE! NIL! NADA!

It's not because he's the most physically ready because Bryce Campbell ticks those boxes, it's not because he's harder at the contest or a player who shuts down opponents because I fear the majority of the eagles would snap Luke like a twig and I doubt it's because he can go forward and score goals because if we brought Ivan in then Tippett would be the permanent FF meaning more goalscoring power. So what is it?

The bloke can go forward and kick a couple? Yay! and while his direct opponent is off racking up countless stats unopposed, maybe Luke could just park himself in the goalsquare or hide at the back of the pack hoping the ball falls his way. That'll win us the game!

Take off your wah wah I hate Drummond hats and look at the bigger picture at hand: Jericho is soft, Jericho doesn't chase, Jericho has no ticker and in the 6 seasons Jericho has occupied a spot on our list his greatest contribution was arguably against Carlton, the worst team in the AFL. On this day he looked ok. In his entire time on our list the best he has looked is OK (albeit against the worst side in the comp) That's not a player who cuts it for me.

I'm not one to normally write off players but this bloke is as gutless as they come and the sooner he's off our list the better. I even kinda hope he makes me eat my words and I swallow the greatest serve of humble pie known to man, heck he has all the attributes to make it as a footballer. But I'd rather have 100 Mark Bickleys than 1 of Luke Jericho.

Out: Jericho (Worst player on any AFL list)

In: Cardboard cutout of my Granny

 

[Pride of SA]

It’s a disgrace that he’s still on the list, and even more of a disgrace that he got a call up this week.

Whats truly a disgrace is that the only time you post something its to sh!tcan the club, a player or the coach.

why dont you just rack off over to the Norwood forum if all you ever want to do here is bitch and whine

"this better be the last time" - or what, you`ll sh!t on the club again? You do this every time a selection is made you disagree with. I would have thought you might have recognised you quite possibly dont know everything there is to know about the players when you sh!tcanned the club all year to play Meesen, then when he turned into the biggest pea-hearted gug thats worn the tri-colours you just move on and turn your attention elesewhere.

Its really quite tiresome.

 

[James23]

maybe craig asked him what he needs to work on to get an AFL game, getting BOG in a sanfl trial doesnt equal AFL success

 

[The Crows Truth]

Last time I checked Jericho was a Norwood player…


I'll never stop following them but with a joke of a coach at the helm it’s sometimes painful stuff.

disgraceful comment

the really sad thing is you would prefer jericho to play like shit on saturday to legitimate your views rather than him play a good game. great supporter

 

[Crow-mo]

This beyond a joke now.

I'm sick of hearing how he needs a run of games so we can decide once and for all if he's good enough. He’s 23, has been on the list for 6 years and has played 26 games; the fact of the matter is that he is NOT good enough.

I can’t believe he’s being persisted with. Heck, even Aaron Kite has showed more during the trial matches. All I can say is this better be the last time he’s named in our side. I can’t fathom how a guy who continuously puts in gutless performances when his career is on the line can continue to be rewarded with games. Neil Craig is obviously an advocate to guys who coast on the field and don’t put in 100%. Can you imagine Jericho in an AFL final? Would almost be worth the price of admission.

aaaah drummond

 

[Crow-mo]

I don't want him to play eithe but maybe he can do a Matthew Kluzek.

what, kick 5 goals on debut against WC never to do jack since????

jericho already debuted

 

[Blue Red and Gold]

Everyone just attacks Drummond for the sake of attacking Drummond on this board but FFS he has a point.

What has this bloke shown in his stellar career at the Adelaide Crows to suggest he's going to be a positive impact at AFL level anytime soon? I still question what this bloke did to warrant a position on our list ahead of one Jason Torney.

Forget past history, what standout quality has he even displayed over the preseason to suggest that he's no longer a squib and will actually contest to a level required to play AFL?

NOTHING! NONE! NIL! NADA!

It's not because he's the most physically ready because Bryce Campbell ticks those boxes, it's not because he's harder at the contest or a player who shuts down opponents because I fear the majority of the eagles would snap Luke like a twig and I doubt it's because he can go forward and score goals because if we brought Ivan in then Tippett would be the permanent FF meaning more goalscoring power. So what is it?

The bloke can go forward and kick a couple? Yay! and while his direct opponent is off racking up countless stats unopposed, maybe Luke could just park himself in the goalsquare or hide at the back of the pack hoping the ball falls his way. That'll win us the game!

Take off your wah wah I hate Drummond hats and look at the bigger picture at hand: Jericho is soft, Jericho doesn't chase, Jericho has no ticker and in the 6 seasons Jericho has occupied a spot on our list his greatest contribution was arguably against Carlton, the worst team in the AFL. On this day he looked ok. In his entire time on our list the best he has looked is OK (albeit against the worst side in the comp) That's not a player who cuts it for me.

I'm not one to normally write off players but this bloke is as gutless as they come and the sooner he's off our list the better. I even kinda hope he makes me eat my words and I swallow the greatest serve of humble pie known to man, heck he has all the attributes to make it as a footballer. But I'd rather have 100 Mark Bickleys than 1 of Luke Jericho.

Out: Jericho (Worst player on any AFL list)

In: Cardboard cutout of my Granny

Bingo!

 

[crowman_23]

Everyone just attacks Drummond for the sake of attacking Drummond on this board but FFS he has a point.

What has this bloke shown in his stellar career at the Adelaide Crows to suggest he's going to be a positive impact at AFL level anytime soon? I still question what this bloke did to warrant a position on our list ahead of one Jason Torney.

Forget past history, what standout quality has he even displayed over the preseason to suggest that he's no longer a squib and will actually contest to a level required to play AFL?

NOTHING! NONE! NIL! NADA!

It's not because he's the most physically ready because Bryce Campbell ticks those boxes, it's not because he's harder at the contest or a player who shuts down opponents because I fear the majority of the eagles would snap Luke like a twig and I doubt it's because he can go forward and score goals because if we brought Ivan in then Tippett would be the permanent FF meaning more goalscoring power. So what is it?

The bloke can go forward and kick a couple? Yay! and while his direct opponent is off racking up countless stats unopposed, maybe Luke could just park himself in the goalsquare or hide at the back of the pack hoping the ball falls his way. That'll win us the game!

Take off your wah wah I hate Drummond hats and look at the bigger picture at hand: Jericho is soft, Jericho doesn't chase, Jericho has no ticker and in the 6 seasons Jericho has occupied a spot on our list his greatest contribution was arguably against Carlton, the worst team in the AFL. On this day he looked ok. In his entire time on our list the best he has looked is OK (albeit against the worst side in the comp) That's not a player who cuts it for me.

I'm not one to normally write off players but this bloke is as gutless as they come and the sooner he's off our list the better. I even kinda hope he makes me eat my words and I swallow the greatest serve of humble pie known to man, heck he has all the attributes to make it as a footballer. But I'd rather have 100 Mark Bickleys than 1 of Luke Jericho.

Out: Jericho (Worst player on any AFL list)

In: Cardboard cutout of my Granny

Brilliant post. Perfectly said.