Mick Malthouse's Stance On Crowd Behaviour

[Markfs]

Malthouse does appear to choose what's relevant to his job. From what I saw of him last year, he went back to being "Micky Malthouse head kicker and take no prisoners back pocket" for about one or two minutes. He probably regrets it and wants it to go away but he just can't make himself say sorry when he really isnt sorry.

As for all this personal abuse stuff, I wish everyone would just be a little smarter with this stuff. I dont think anyone loses concentration being called a rapist. Far better to highlight Milne's inability to kick goals in pressure situations. He is a weak footballer and has demonstrated his character flaws in a number of finals. It's the truth. It's something that you can say to his face and it would make him feel like shit. Grant Thomas gave Milne an accurate 30 second assessment on Classifieds. It shut the others up and would have devastated Milne when he heard about it. Abuse is just sticks and stones. The truth works better...

 

[mattys123]

Serious question;

Did/has Milne apologised for making homosexual remarks towards Paul Licuiria on that same night?

Simply put, Milne started the shit fight of words, and I can't for the life of me remember Milne ever apologising to Licca.

What's the difference?

 

[bojangler]

How many other Senior Coaches have been harassed by the media on this issue?

None.

Policing crowd behavior is a matter for venue Security.
Setting standards for Crowd behavior is a matter for the AFL.

Eddie and Mick should make a simple statement that the club nor any of it's representatives will no longer comment on any Non Collingwood, non- match related football matter.

How many other senior coaches have called a player from the opposing team a "rapist"?

I think the media is beating it up, but Mick has a hand in starting all this from that comment last year.

 

[Swooop]

Bojangler, I think you'll find the abuse of Milne by the fans predates MM's retaliatory outburst.

Ours are not the only fans who give it to Milne.

It's not MM's job to stop it.

 

[Tippy78]

This whole issue frustrates the hell out of me. Where does it stop? Who draws the line as to what is and isn't acceptable? People need to get thicker skins. And Cameron Ling's lawyer had better drop all his other cases because he's going to have a field day suing all the media outlets for breach of human rights.

What about all the journos who right defamatory articles about players throughout the year saying they aren't trying hard enough or aren't good enough? Are those players in a position to sue due to discrimination?

I'm sick of it.

 

[Tippy78]

Sorry, back on topic Mick is not now and never should be responsible for towing a party line regarding supporters. The job he is paid for is to coach the collingwood football team and that is what he should do. The football department and publicity team can run with this one.

 

[Optimax]

Swoop, jerry, and others

A coach generally has to talk to the media quite a lot, its part of his job you see if he doesn't front the media he gets fined by the AFL.

PS he is still with us in 2012...........poor haters (its a joke!)

On the topic, i am happy malthouse said he doesn't care, honestly this is all a massive non issue beat up terribly

 

[Swooop]

Swoop, jerry, and others

A coach generally has to talk to the media quite a lot, its part of his job you see if he doesn't front the media he gets fined by the AFL.

PS he is still with us in 2012...........poor haters (its a joke!)

On the topic, i am happy malthouse said he doesn't care, honestly this is all a massive non issue beat up terribly

Yeah i know he's got to talk to the media, understand that.

It is not his job to tell the Pie fans what they can and can't say ( I know you haven't said that he should tell the fans to quit the Milne stuff)

Completely agree with you it's a media beatup...anything to try and drag us down, distract or upset us, in the pathetic hope it may derail us.

The bit where I think he should STFU is the increasing elder statesman stuff he continues to spout eg hand back the Anzac Day stuff etc.

Whether he is right or wrong, it is anti Collingwood and whether people agree with that or not, those bits are not his job, nor his say, especially given that next year he will not be coach.

I know you weren't implying i hate MM, I don't, although I'm not as bigger fan as some I admit. I think Collingwood has been exceedingly good to, and for, him.

I do worry though, just how he's going to settle in to a back seat role next year, it will be very difficult I think, and if he in any way undermines Nathan Buckley, then I will be very, very disappointed in him.

 

[Pacman77]

I wasn't sure if there was a proper thread dedicated to the "rapist" taunts,so this one seems to be the most relevant i can find....from my point of view based on what i know, Milne was investigated, the club did get a PI to follow the alleged victim for some time and crucial evidence which was stored at a police station strangely vanished. Seems to be a reoccurring theme at SKFC. Perhaps in legal terms it's not right for MM or fans to direct such strong comments at Milne & Co but Milne & Co put themselves in the limelight for very questionable reasons. I know our grogsquad have voiced that chant for years but they've changed it to the more inconspicuous "No Means No" chant. Maybe you guys should try it, sounds neutral, does the job and the AFL can't sanction the club for a harmless group of words. If only that ****** was a carltank player it would make it more enjoyable!!!

 

[KissmeRobbo]

Ha ha.. No Milney no!

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

It's all bullshit.

Media has been bored as all hell since they realised what was coming on October 1st, and have been looking for negative Collingwood stories all year in an attempt to 'derail' us and hopefully make the season more interesting.

Where are the stories about Didak being called a murderer? Or the racist taunts against Leon?

When has a coach EVER had to speak to defend supporter behaviour?

You all know my feelings on Mick, and even I say this is all bullshit. Supporter behaviour has nothing to do with Mick, and you know what? Maybe all these grown men need to harden the fcuk up and grow a thicker skin.

"Bu bu bu, day called me a wapist", "Bu bu bu he said he would rape my mother". So? They're just words for god's sake. They're not going to hurt you.

Man up pussies.

Ha ha.. No Milney no!

I've been yelling "No means No Milne!" At the football since 2004. No joke. It's best way to insinuate his rapist tendencies without actually using the words. Still gets a laugh, but doesn't offend anyone.

 

[jathanas]

First post here, so g'day.

I think that whilst the media were looking for a story, and played Mick, he could've used a better choice of words.

He had the option of relaying the same message on more "palatable" terms and depriving the reporters of anything that pits him against Ed.

Cheers, J

 

[TheFreshBanana]

Serious question;

Did/has Milne apologised for making homosexual remarks towards Paul Licuiria on that same night?

Simply put, Milne started the shit fight of words, and I can't for the life of me remember Milne ever apologising to Licca.

What's the difference?

That's what I've been thinking. All we hear is MM called Milne a rapist but not about the fact that Milne called lica a homosexual first. Now I don't want this to become a playground fight, because MM is in the wrong but Milne is in as much fault as Malthouse.

 

[76woodenspooners]

First post here, so g'day.

I think that whilst the media were looking for a story, and played Mick, he could've used a better choice of words.

He had the option of relaying the same message on more "palatable" terms and depriving the reporters of anything that pits him against Ed.

Cheers, J

Welcome J,

Agree that MM could have handled the situation much better so as not to inflame it. I could imagine that MM must be very difficult to manage and to get him to stick to the party line (obviously on matters non-coaching related).

 

[KissmeRobbo]

Bottom line Mick probably couldn't care less because of who was involved..

He's made his feelings about Milne clear..

lets not forget he spent a week being embarrassed and having to apologize to that little maggot and being called a liar in the press..

and not a single word was said about Milne's racist and homophobic remarks let alone forced to apologize

Is anyone really surprised he quietly agreed with the cheer squad?

 

[smitty87]

I didn't love how he handled it, just gives the media a story about how Eddie and Mick are at it again.

While people are saying he is the coach and his only job is to coach i tend to disagree with this. He is also a face of the club and I believe it is important that he tows the company line so to say.

Simply stating that he supported the football club in its efforts to stamp out this type of behaviour would have been suffice.

 

[Ed D]

I think the thing with Mick is he could have easily said something along the lines of "this is something for the football department and as senior coach it's not my role to get involved in it". He might have even said this and the media have chosen to quote him on direct answers to questions.

 

[PieBeast]

****in A

this is the reason,im not going to be devastated when MM leaves.he is coaching brilliantly atm but **** I wish would just have a lower media presence

Glad I'm not the only one who thinks Mick has undermined our Club and embarrassed himself on countless occasions this year.

 

[KissmeRobbo]

Glad I'm not the only one who thinks Mick has undermined our Club and embarrassed himself on countless occasions this year.

Always a little collateral damage in war

 

[76woodenspooners]

I'm guessing Mick's been allowed off the leash this year - a perk of being the reigning Jock McHale medal winner and going for back to back in the final year of a non-extendable contract.

That'll change next year when he'll have no compulsory media commitments, and he'll be back on the leash.

Anybody know if as DOC he'll still be reporting to Walshy? Or will he be above that?

 

[76woodenspooners]

From my understanding (please correct me if I'm wrong), Mick has agreed in principle to a 3 year stint as DOC, but he and the club are yet to agree on a job description. And things aren't going to be set in concrete until that happens.

If that is the case, it's a tad frustrating that the club and his agent haven't been able to sort it out yet - how long have they had?

I remember back around June sometime there was talk about them actively working on putting together that job description. There seems to have been a holdup? If it doesn't happen very soon then I'm guessing it's not going to happen until after seasons end.

 

[KissmeRobbo]

From my understanding (please correct me if I'm wrong), Mick has agreed in principle to a 3 year stint as DOC, but he and the club are yet to agree on a job description. And things aren't going to be set in concrete until that happens.

Can he legally argue that the contract is invalid if the job description hasn't even been defined?

 

[Ed D]

I don't think the club would hold it to him if he didn't want to be there. But it's also a little hard to work out what's happening next year while we're playing and he's focussed on what he's doing. I wouldn't be surprised if things didn't get sorted out until around the draft.

 

[jathanas]

You only want people in the club if they're happy to be there.

MM has more choice now than he did a couple of years back when he agreed to this handover. It's natural that it would take him a bit longer to process it all, especially given his new status as "hottest" coach.

 

[rachhanley]

P**sed off that the news today report on Collingwood's new ad campaign, and after the story, in a big dramatic voice, say "Note: Mick Malthouse does NOT appear in the video."
1 - who cares? nor do many other influential members of the team.
2 - i wish they'd stop carrying on trying to create speculation over the will he/won't he be there next year, which is clearly their intention by making such an obvious point that he wasn't involved in this.