VFL VFL Round 5 v Essendon - Saturday April 26th 7:10pm @ ETU Stadium. Live on 7Mate

[Jen2310]

Coming of age game for Oscar.

18 disposals. 1 goal. 6 tackles. 16 hitouts. 6 clearances.

 

[Jen2310]

Na Bennett i think ?

He's had a preseason hamstring injury (in the practice game v richmond). Getting closer to resuming full training

 

[3rdMan]

Don't care that Smit doesn't look good in defence. VFL is about development. They're trying him in a new position, either as a permanent change or to add to his game. They'll give him time.

Jiath moves so well, very hard to think he won't make it in the AFL at some point. Will come when his contest work and tank is good enough.

West was good with the opportunities he had. Shows nice touch and mobility outside of marking, which is a great sign, not one dimensional.

 

[Jen2310]

The Numbers:


Young forward Charlie West added another three goals to his season tally, bringing his total to 12 in just four games.


VFL-listed players Sam Glover (25 disposals, 12 intercepts) was influential, while Josh Browne (23 disposals, two goals) and Tom Wilson (19 disposals, six tackles, two goals) were also commanding.


Mason Cox (19 hit outs, two goals) and Oscar Steene (16 hit outs, six score involvements) were impressive, while Harry DeMattia (18 disposals, five clearances) stood out on the wing.


Collingwood will now look to their second home game of the season next Saturday, where they’ll face Footscray at Victoria Park (2:05pm).


ESSENDON 4.1 7.4 10.11 12.16 (88)
COLLINGWOOD 6.4 8.6 13.9 18.11 (119)


GOALS
Essendon: Tyler Sellers (3), Kayle Gerreyn (2), Alwyn Davey Jnr (2), Oskar Smartt, Zak Johnson, Jackson Hately

6

Jackson Hately

Age

25

Ht

191cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.3

4star

K

8.5

3star

HB

6.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.7

3star

D

14.2

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

5.8

3star

M

4.8

4star

T

1.4

2star

CL

0.4

3star

D

17.2

5star

K

8.6

4star

HB

8.6

5star

M

5.6

5star

T

3.0

5star

CL

0.8

3star

, Saad El-Hawli, Jared Eckersley
Collingwood: Charlie West (3), Mason Cox

46

Mason Cox

Age

34

Ht

211cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.7

2star

K

5.2

2star

HB

3.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.2

4star

D

6.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.3

2star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.0

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.8

5star

(2), Tom Wilson (2), Harry Mahoney (2), Josh Browne (2), Oscar Steene, Wil Parker, Oleg Markov

37

Oleg Markov

Age

29

Ht

188cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.1

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

4.8

3star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.4

3star

MG

228.8

4star

No current season stats available

D

15.4

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

4.2

4star

M

6.0

5star

T

2.0

4star

MG

295.2

5star

, Isaiah Markovsky


BEST
Collingwood: Sam Glover, Josh Browne, Oscar Steene, Charlie Dean, Wil Parker, Harry DeMattia

Cox, West combine for five as Pies storm home

Collingwood have beaten Essendon by 31 points in their traditional Anzac-weekend VFL clash.

www.collingwoodfc.com.au

 

[35Daicos]

The Numbers:


Young forward Charlie West added another three goals to his season tally, bringing his total to 12 in just four games.


VFL-listed players Sam Glover (25 disposals, 12 intercepts) was influential, while Josh Browne (23 disposals, two goals) and Tom Wilson (19 disposals, six tackles, two goals) were also commanding.


Mason Cox (19 hit outs, two goals) and Oscar Steene (16 hit outs, six score involvements) were impressive, while Harry DeMattia (18 disposals, five clearances) stood out on the wing.


Collingwood will now look to their second home game of the season next Saturday, where they’ll face Footscray at Victoria Park (2:05pm).


ESSENDON 4.1 7.4 10.11 12.16 (88)
COLLINGWOOD 6.4 8.6 13.9 18.11 (119)


GOALS
Essendon: Tyler Sellers (3), Kayle Gerreyn (2), Alwyn Davey Jnr (2), Oskar Smartt, Zak Johnson, Jackson Hately, Saad El-Hawli, Jared Eckersley
Collingwood: Charlie West (3), Mason Cox (2), Tom Wilson (2), Harry Mahoney (2), Josh Browne (2), Oscar Steene, Wil Parker, Oleg Markov, Isaiah Markovsky


BEST
Collingwood: Sam Glover, Josh Browne, Oscar Steene, Charlie Dean, Wil Parker, Harry DeMattia

Cox, West combine for five as Pies storm home

Collingwood have beaten Essendon by 31 points in their traditional Anzac-weekend VFL clash.

www.collingwoodfc.com.au

That adds up to 15 goals for Collingwood, so someone's been 'dudded'!!:

Liam Hude (2) and Riley Mason (1) are the unlucky ones!

 

[manicpie]

Use the brain man, do you think the players orbiting his feet might be slightly better in the AFL than the VFL? Not surprised in the slightest some people can't make the distinction.

What about being eased under the ball everytime he's attempting to mark in the forward 50?, not only in the AFL but VFL defenders?. I don't put much credence in tap work, it's what they do around the ground that's more important and that's where he's struggling this year

 

[Harry O]

Interesting to see DeMatttia playing a lot as an inside mid tagger against Essendon.
Change of role

 

[BuildEmUp]

Finishes 24-17, so essentially 20-8 in the last 3 quarters

that was the MST shocking umpiring i have ever seen

 

[BuildEmUp]

He came up against another young ruck in Visentini, and did a good job.
Smit should not play as a defender - he has no idea.
At least if Cox gets the callup to replace McStay, Roo will spend time in the ruck, as he should.
Steene can play forward when Roo is rucking.

I think they might be trying to train him up as defender ...

 

[sr36]

I think they might be trying to train him up as defender ...

I think it's more of a case of where else are you going to play him when Cox and Steene are both in the team.

The VFL team is looking good this year - you can see the style of the AFL team in them now for the first time in years. And they look like a team that wants to win rather than just a development squad. We had two good kpfs and a good ruck forward - Smit up forward with some chop out ruck minutes and getting in the way of the actual forwards isn't what we needed.

 

[Harry O]

I think it's more of a case of where else are you going to play him when Cox and Steene are both in the team.

The VFL team is looking good this year - you can see the style of the AFL team in them now for the first time in years. And they look like a team that wants to win rather than just a development squad. We had two good kpfs and a good ruck forward - Smit up forward with some chop out ruck minutes and getting in the way of the actual forwards isn't what we needed.

And the likes of Curtis Taylor and Josh Bennetts yet to play
Maybe Tommy McGuane after national champs
Tom Mitchell hopefully not far away
AJ in a month

 

[Rorzza]

Coxy has been super reliable now for some time, close to BOG last night through his efforts in the final quarter.

IMO, Jiath, West and Allan were the most impressive of our young crop last night. I would have had Cochrane in that group too but he faded in the second half.

Dean, Parker and Steene next level in performance down.

I'm finding it hard to see AFL traits in Demattia and will be watching the Smit experiment with hope and interest.

 

[sr36]

And the likes of Curtis Taylor and Josh Bennetts yet to play
Maybe Tommy McGuane after national champs
Tom Mitchell hopefully not far away
AJ in a month

If the senior list has a clean bill of health and you get a couple of inside mids like Titch and Sully back into that team, they'll be awesome. They're going really well despite the mids getting done around stoppage. Allan will look much better too - he's a receiver at the moment and not a first possession contest player.

 

[stormskye]

If the senior list has a clean bill of health and you get a couple of inside mids like Titch and Sully back into that team, they'll be awesome. They're going really well despite the mids getting done around stoppage. Allan will look much better too - he's a receiver at the moment and not a first possession contest player.

Allan really struggled at stoppage last night. I’d love to know the numbers of CBA but HDM looked better in there than Allan. Def agree he’s a receiver. I’m prob being overly harsh on him because I want to see him kick on. Would like to see him using his speed to gain space for better use. He’s still doing a lot of terrible handballs out of stoppage. Would kill us on turnover in the seniors.

 

[sr36]

Allan really struggled at stoppage last night. I’d love to know the numbers of CBA but HDM looked better in there than Allan. Def agree he’s a receiver. I’m prob being overly harsh on him because I want to see him kick on. Would like to see him using his speed to gain space for better use. He’s still doing a lot of terrible handballs out of stoppage. Would kill us on turnover in the seniors.

I'm not really an Allan fan, but I do think that you're being a bit harsh on the handballing - the seniors - including Nick and Pendles all do that blind forward searcher at times under pressure - it is too much of a go to for Allan though.

 

[stormskye]

I'm not really an Allan fan, but I do think that you're being a bit harsh on the handballing - the seniors - including Nick and Pendles all do that blind forward searcher at times under pressure - it is too much of a go to for Allan though.

it’s def an instruction to gain territory, just think some of the boys including Allan take it to literally. Lot of turnovers from it

 

[sr36]

it’s def an instruction to gain territory, just think some of the boys including Allan take it to literally. Lot of turnovers from it

Yeah Allan overdoes it - might be more about not having the class and time to use it better. I don't mind it though in that when we get lucky and it falls for us we're running forward - whereas when it falls to them they often have to do a u turn under pressure.

 

[CPH12]

Allan really struggled at stoppage last night. I’d love to know the numbers of CBA but HDM looked better in there than Allan. Def agree he’s a receiver. I’m prob being overly harsh on him because I want to see him kick on. Would like to see him using his speed to gain space for better use. He’s still doing a lot of terrible handballs out of stoppage. Would kill us on turnover in the seniors.

He's very passive and not suited to being the inside first touch player. Looks good on the spread and seems to have nice vision. I'm not as hopeful as I was, but could see a WHE type role for him as a link player

 

[CPH12]

Coxy has been super reliable now for some time, close to BOG last night through his efforts in the final quarter.

IMO, Jiath, West and Allan were the most impressive of our young crop last night. I would have had Cochrane in that group too but he faded in the second half.

Dean, Parker and Steene next level in performance down.

I'm finding it hard to see AFL traits in Demattia and will be watching the Smit experiment with hope and interest.

I actually really enjoyed Parker's game, thought he was very clean and had some clever touches. Not sure how he fits in at afl level but could see a back pocket role when it comes available

 

[sr36]

He's very passive and not suited to being the inside first touch player. Looks good on the spread and seems to have nice vision. I'm not as hopeful as I was, but could see a WHE type role for him as a link player

Unlike others, I don't see a gun mid at all, but if he gets his running patterns right and tidies up his kicking a bit, he'll be a good outside role player.

 

[sr36]

I actually really enjoyed Parker's game, thought he was very clean and had some clever touches. Not sure how he fits in at afl level but could see a back pocket role when it comes available

He's got a lot of class. I don't know how good a runner he is, but his football skillset would be good on the wing or as a running back, if he can do the kms.

 

[gouki88]

It's nice having a not terrible VFL team

 

[sr36]

It's nice having a not terrible VFL team

Our talls and flankers are really good. Get everyone fit and then have Sully and Mitchell in there and win both the AFL and VFL.

 

[Jen2310]

 

[gouki88]

Our talls and flankers are really good. Get everyone fit and then have Sully and Mitchell in there and win both the AFL and VFL.

Absolutely - as you say, they're starting to emulate the seniors in style. Think that will be great for making the transition from 2s to 1s smooth when we inevitably need to call on them. Also serves as a little cherry on top for the weekend