Toast Morabito tracking thread

[theGav56]

How do you see him faring through 5 months of intense pre-season training?

Yeah it would be really good for him to get through a game or two before the years end, just to tell himself that he can do it.

 

[yakka man]

At what point does the LARS hybrid become a pointless? The only reason to choose LARS over a traditional knee reconstruction is because it gets you back playing far sooner. The drawback is that the graft is a lot less stable. If Morabito misses all of 2013 then it was pointless to get the LARS hybrid reconstruction and better to get the longer lasting traditional knee reco, even though it hasn't worked in the past.

I just hope that he can start playing soon and have no further problems with his knee.

 

[BananaOnTheRun]

I think they're being cautious as much for mental health reasons as rehab. In any case, I think the hybrid is longer than regular LARS but quicker than a traditional reco.

 

[Freo Dr]

Maybe by waiting longer you let the natural tissue grow and strengthen to the point of being like a normal ligament but you have the synthetic as well so the final result is actually stronger than either alone?

Certainly have to think from a mental perspective I think Mora needs to be able to run out for Peel this year and have a few games under his belt before pre-season. With the length of his layoff he needs to be able to able to achieve a milestone like that rather than just finishing all the rehab only to start pre-season training.

 

[BananaOnTheRun]

I'd like to see him get cherry ripe, play two weeks of WAFL and then let him go bang. Preferably into the faces of the dees round 21.

 

[mike91]

I'd like to see him get cherry ripe, play two weeks of WAFL and then let him go bang. Preferably into the faces of the dees round 21.

Not even the slightest chance of happening. Few WAFL reserves games, hopefully some league games is a great result.

 

[basashi]

At what point does the LARS hybrid become a pointless? The only reason to choose LARS over a traditional knee reconstruction is because it gets you back playing far sooner. The drawback is that the graft is a lot less stable. If Morabito misses all of 2013 then it was pointless to get the LARS hybrid reconstruction and better to get the longer lasting traditional knee reco, even though it hasn't worked in the past.

I just hope that he can start playing soon and have no further problems with his knee.

I would agree with that. Especially when you consider that there are downsides to LARS.

 

[scon]

Don't believe speed of return was ever the priority.

 

[Wizard]

Don't believe speed of return was ever the priority.

It shouldn't have been.

 

[UFO Tatsu]

I would agree with that. Especially when you consider that there are downsides to LARS.

the only thing i can think of is that they are trying to give him the best opportunity at a full pre-season next season that a traditional knee reco might not been able to, considering he did do his knee at the point end of the pre-season this year

 

[Purple Jesus]

Ross has just said he may not play footy at any level this season

 

[Silent Alarm]

Ross has just said he may not play footy at any level this season

No issue. We have alright depth and he was always going to be low in the pecking order. No point risking him in the WAFL when he was never a chance to play for Fremantle. A year to recover, then working into a pre-season, is fine.

 

[FyfesBoot]

No issue. We have alright depth and he was always going to be low in the pecking order. No point risking him in the WAFL when he was never a chance to play for Fremantle. A year to recover, then working into a pre-season, is fine.

I don't think anybody disagrees with that from a club point of view. I think people were hoping Mora would get to play some footy for his own benefit, not the club's.

 

[Nickos66]

Could be the use of psychology to get Mora to push himself for a WAFL berth before the end of the year as he's obviously not ticking all the boxes the coaches want him to be at this point.

 

[Taylor]

I think it's more to do with his career being either a year of football OR one more knee away from success or failure.

 

[daiks]

Don't believe speed of return was ever the priority.

why do you think freo and mora decided to undergo lars rather than the traditional reco?

shortened recovery: quicker return to footy.

 

[Taylor]

why do you think freo and mora decided to undergo lars rather than the traditional reco?

shortened recovery: quicker return to footy.

Because the same preparation results in the same results.

 

[Seppo]

I don't think anybody disagrees with that from a club point of view. I think people were hoping Mora would get to play some footy for his own benefit, not the club's.

This is what i see would be important to drive Morabito through the offseason.

They need to get him back to either level just so he builds the thirst so he can get through a long summer. Emotionally as fans we just want to see him out there after spending almost 2 straight years on the sidelines, can't be good to be denied what you love to do for so long.

At least if he gets out on the park we can all celebrate, but if the unthinkable happens in the next off season he may just hang up the boots.

I would imagine his debut for Peel (reserves/seniors) would attract a massive crowd!

 

[FyfesBoot]

This is what i see would be important to drive Morabito through the offseason.

They need to get him back to either level just so he builds the thirst so he can get through a long summer. Emotionally as fans we just want to see him out there after spending almost 2 straight years on the sidelines, can't be good to be denied what you love to do for so long.

At least if he gets out on the park we can all celebrate, but if the unthinkable happens in the next off season he may just hang up the boots.

I would imagine his debut for Peel (reserves/seniors) would attract a massive crowd!

If I know when it is, I'll be going.

 

[Nickos66]

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/sport/18128392/freo-to-wrap-morabito-in-mothballs/

 

[leungtl]

why do you think freo and mora decided to undergo lars rather than the traditional reco?

shortened recovery: quicker return to footy.

Not necessarily.

As I understand it (and having gone through the procedure myself), in ACL reconstruction they take a piece of your hamstring (or Patella, but much rarer now since it's been found to be weaker) as a graft but there's only so many you can do because your body only has 2 healthy hamstrings and patellas! The hamstring doesn't even recover back to 100%, but it's still a lot better than a Patella graft.

This would have been Mora's 3rd knee reco if he opted to go that way, which means that even if his knee returned to 100%, he'd still likely have Hamstring problems later on. By undergoing LARS, nothing was needed from his body since LARS is completely synthetic, thereby alleviating these external problems. The downside is the long term effects are still yet to be proven.

I'm not an expert in the area so someone feel free to correct me if anything I've said is incorrect! Most of it was just gathered in tidbits from my physio and surgeon

 

[freo84]

Not necessarily.

As I understand it (and having gone through the procedure myself), in ACL reconstruction they take a piece of your hamstring (or Patella, but much rarer now since it's been found to be weaker) as a graft but there's only so many you can do because your body only has 2 healthy hamstrings and patellas! The hamstring doesn't even recover back to 100%, but it's still a lot better than a Patella graft.

This would have been Mora's 3rd knee reco if he opted to go that way, which means that even if his knee returned to 100%, he'd still likely have Hamstring problems later on. By undergoing LARS, nothing was needed from his body since LARS is completely synthetic, thereby alleviating these external problems. The downside is the long term effects are still yet to be proven.

I'm not an expert in the area so someone feel free to correct me if anything I've said is incorrect! Most of it was just gathered in tidbits from my physio and surgeon

Spot on. I've had 2 myself and know the feeling all to well.

In a traditional knee reco the knee will never be 100% again. My surgeon told me that it will only ever be at 90% as far as strength goes. This may have changed given it was 6 years ago and the advancements we have made since then might have made it better. As for the strength in lars hybrid Mora got I don't know.

But as a supporter base we can only throw our support behind the guy and just hope we are privileged enough to see him streaming down Pattersons and kicking a goal in a final.

 

[theGav56]

Wonder how/when contract decisions will be made with him? sooner the better.

 

[FyfesBoot]

Ross has just said he may not play footy at any level this season

I just heard the quote on the ABC. He did clarify at the end that he is just as much chance not to play as play.

I read that as 50/50, and that still gives me hope.

 

[Harry Reems]

Ross said during his press conference today that "He needs to tick 100 boxes before he can play again and he has currently ticked 90."

He also said that he is a "50/50 chance as to whether he will play a game this year because there is only 6 games left before the finals start."

I see now the press is trying to make something of those comments, however I just think that Ross is trying to get the media off his back as they keep asking the same question all the time.