Most overrated player in AFL?

[Catman]

I don't know if this has been asked recently, so here goes.

I reckon that the most overrated player in the AFL would be Corey McKernan. It was Anthony Rocca, but McKernan is always singled out as a match winner but never performs anywhere near that standard.

What does everyone else think?

 

[Darky]

Perhaps its a fair observation from an outsider about McKernan, but his inconsistency is well known by Roo fans.
Overrated, how about Matthew Richardson. Uncoordinated *******, inconsistent, shithouse concentration, injury prone, soft, yet he's a friggen superstar. $600k per year, TURN IT UP!

 

[Catman]

Originally posted by Darky:
Perhaps its a fair observation from an outsider about McKernan, but his inconsistency is well known by Roo fans.
Overrated, how about Matthew Richardson. Uncoordinated *******, inconsistent, shithouse concentration, injury prone, soft, yet he's a friggen superstar. $600k per year, TURN IT UP!

I get the impression your not a fan of Richardson's Darky?

 

[dees01]

When McKernan plays well his great and when his bad, his really bad. The most overrated would have to be Colbert.

 

[Denno]

When I saw the topic I thought of one player - McKernan.

 

[QT]

Originally posted by Darky:

Overrated, how about Matthew Richardson. Uncoordinated *******, inconsistent, shithouse concentration, injury prone, soft, yet he's a friggen superstar. $600k per year, TURN IT UP!

HAHAHAHAHAHA, Funny Shit there Darky, cant agre with you anymore aswell!!!

Waste of Money!



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[Grendel]

A certain bloke over at Port who ONCE took 14 marks and kicked eight in a game. Yep step on up Mr.Tredrea. Whats he up to now, 60 games or therabouts? Played ONE outstanding game from memory. But how many times have i heard hes turned the corner and finally going to deliver on his ability?

Better hurry along Warren, the boats ready to sail.

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[Rooboy 96]

Originally posted by Catman:
I don't know if this has been asked recently, so here goes.

I reckon that the most overrated player in the AFL would be Corey McKernan. It was Anthony Rocca, but McKernan is always singled out as a match winner but never performs anywhere near that standard.

What does everyone else think?

Catman.. still smarting over his one great game last year... ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...
now who was that against???

 

[The invisible mullet]

It's an interesting call because many North supporters do get frustrated by McKernan. However, if you look at his performances in the 96 and 99 GF's it is a little harsh (he turned both of those matches the Roos way). He hasn't become the superstar many expected after season 96 but he still is pretty influential (as Cats fans should know too well) in the big matches (North folded in 97 when McK went down injured in the PF).

Most overrated? Tredrea and Waterhouse

 

[McKenna for PM]

Yep, McKernan sprang to my mind as well.

But a couple of West Coast candidates:

Jason Ball (until he left for Sydney) was in the top two or three highest paid of our players. He certainly wasn't in the top two or three best - he wasn't even competent.

And Josh Wooden. I know he's not rated highly, but he's easily our worst player, and yet keeps getting games. How he missed last season's culling I'll never know....

 

[Catman]

Originally posted by Rooboy 96:
Catman.. still smarting over his one great game last year... ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...
now who was that against???

Yeah, it was against us. Typical, we allow the overrated, like McKernan play a blinder. But you must admit that was all he did for the year.


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[shack]

Catman

I agree McKernan is overrated by the football press, but not by ROO supporters!!

Was extremely influential in both 96 and 99 winning GF's.

Most overrated: Richardson (but only because of injury)

 

[Crackers]

McKernan springs to mind IMMEDIATELY: I still can't believe he laid that tackle on Joel Smith in teh Semi last year when we were screaming down the wing UNFAIR UNFAIR

Tredrea: Yep I remember that game and he's been terrible ever since

Gehrig: I can't believe no ones mentioned Gehrig although he only ever plays well against us!

 

[TD]

I'm a little surpised by the comments about Richardson. I think he is more unlucky than overated. I have seen him play some absolute blinders, but can't get on the track for long enough to prove it. Having said that, he probably isn't as damaging as he should be for the amount of marks he takes. Tends to sit and wait in the goal square for the easy one a little too often as well.

 

[Asgardian]

Hey, if it was possible to guarantee anyone could have a season free of injury, and put that guarantee on Richardson, I'd take him immediately, aint the best player in the league by a long shot, but he is still a very good footballer.

Easier to do a most over-rated player per team.

Adelaide :- Brett Burton
Brisbane :- Chris Johnson
Carlton :- Michael Mansfield
Collingwood :- Anthony Rocca
Essendon :- Stephen Alessio
Fremantle :- Clive Waterhouse
Geelong :- Ronnie Burns
Hawthorn :- Daniel Chick
Kangaroos :- Corey McKernan
Melbourne :- David Schwarz
Port :- Che Cockatoo-Collins
Richmond :- Wayne Campbell
St Kilda :- Fraser Gehrig
Sydney :- Jason Ball
West Coast :- Ben Cousins
West Bulldogs :- Rohan Smith

Lets see how many arguments I've managed to start, lol

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[jod23]

Cousins overated

Asguardian has lost the plot.

Anyway yeah ill stick with the obvious McKernan sucks as does Gehrig (although is a match winner on his day) and i wouldnt give Richardson 10c to play for WC. In fact id give him 10c to stay away.!

 

[Carey_is_King]

McKernan.
Remember the name, because you certainly won't remember his game.
The most overrated, overpaid, underperformed, uncoordinated useless pile of mediocrity ever to grace a football field.

Scary stuff this, but Asguardian won't get any arguments from me on his list either, except for Cousins. I would probably put Phillip Matera ahead of him.

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Hurdle the Dead.

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[choppyhard]

Dean Wallis, oops he doesn't even rate

Most overrated would have to be Micheal Long. Has done stuff all since 93.

 

[mr mullet meets mrs bogan]

how about matthew lloyd, i reckon he is a great player but that is it, not a superstar. certainly not a "franchise player". only because he is the last traditional full-forward in the competition.

 

[windyhill]

Whitnall and Croad,whitnall is ok,but that is it,just ok, the media love the fat lump.has croad ever hit a team mate on the chest ? a bomb merchant.

 

[Grendel]

Originally posted by Asgardian:
Hey, if it was possible to guarantee anyone could have a season free of injury, and put that guarantee on Richardson, I'd take him immediately, aint the best player in the league by a long shot, but he is still a very good footballer.

Easier to do a most over-rated player per team.

Adelaide :- Brett Burton (fair call)
Brisbane :- Chris Johnson (who rated him?)
Carlton :- Michael Mansfield (who rated him?)
Collingwood :- Anthony Rocca (fair call)
Essendon :- Stephen Alessio (who rated him?)
Fremantle :- Clive Waterhouse (fair call)
Geelong :- Ronnie Burns (fair call)
Hawthorn :- Daniel Chick (Youve got no idea, seriously NONE WHATSOEVER
Kangaroos :- Corey McKernan (fair call)
Melbourne :- David Schwarz (fair call)
Port :- Che Cockatoo-Collins (who rated him?)
Richmond :- Wayne Campbell (fair call)
St Kilda :- Fraser Gehrig (fair call)
Sydney :- Jason Ball (who rated him?)
West Coast :- Ben Cousins (Your kidding)
West Bulldogs :- Rohan Smith (Your kidding)


Lets see how many arguments I've managed to start, lol

Thats on a per team basis. The ones with 'who rated him' in brackets, well, who did??? Fair calls on most others as they do get some media attention at least.

Cousins and Smith would both waltz into any side in the league. Finally Chick? Fair dinkum the blokes a gun, easily the best player at the Hawks last year, hardest at the contest ive seen since Kelly at his peak. 2nd 3rd 4th even 5th efforts at times, wish every player we had, had Dannys workrate. You want overated at the Hawks, look elsewhere old son. You have totally blown it here.

Cheers.

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[Eagle_Fan]

Just because a player is talented, doesn't mean they can't also be overrated. I think we've done the Cousins thing before Jod (if that was you? I dont remember, sorry), but he has the potential to be a champ, but isnt one just yet. His disposal can be a bit sloppy, and acuracy on goal is often down. Just watch a bit this season how many times he turns the ball over directly. I really hope he reaches that champ level this year though...

 

[jod23]

Yeah it was Eagle_Fan, Cousins isnt a superstar yet. He's a certifiable gun and on the verge of superstardom and as Grendel said he would waltz into any team in the country. All im saying is that he isnt overrated, he gets credit where credit is due. Thats all, but wouldnt it be great if he takes the next step this year and becomes a match winner. Wirrpunda seems destined to be a superstar so it would be great to see them both really progress this year.

Cheers

 

[Bee]

IMHO, Stewie Lowe!

Asgardian, you will get no arguments from me about Mansfield. The biggest waste of space in the Blues outfit!

 

[Crackers]

Yesss! that's who i was trying to remember

STEWART LOWIE!

The amount of times i have heard, "oh what a wonderful pair of hands", well that would probably be handy if you could kick the ball more than 30 meters!