Nathan Lyon

[Bucking Beads]

Also, how funny was it watching him in South Africa in the second test when Cummins and Johnson were trying to knock off the last few runs? The camera kept panning onto him and he looked like he was going to vomit and cry.

That was gold, he was packing it. I would have been as well.

 

[Baby_Jenks]

As has been said before, Hauritz was hard done by but he's the only real challenger to Lyons spot, talent wise. I personally prefer Hauritz but he doesn't seem to have the greatest chemistry in the australian team. More than happy for Lyon to keep his spot for the foreseeable future, up to the next ashes series.

Krejza is a far too attacking/loose option to have in the mix with a most likely green pace attack. Unless there's an absolute dust bowl pitch to play two spinners on, he won't get a look in.

The only reason to have Beer in the team is comical value. Beer - Run out. Would be hilarious. Yes he has improved but he couldn't conceivably get worse. Maybe a ODI player in the distant future but I think boof Lehman back from retirement would be a better option at this point in time.

 

[TheBrownlowMan37]

As has been said before, Hauritz was hard done by but he's the only real challenger to Lyons spot, talent wise.

O'Keefe?

 

[placebo]

I like that he's willing to throw the ball up and flight it.
Far too many offies revert to bowling darts when they get hit around a bit.

 

[frankrizzo]

the question mark on his long term prospects will be answered against the Indians

Honestly if that's how the selectors are looking at it then we are heading for haurtiz part 2.

We need lyon to bowl well against teams like england pakistan and south africa(the same sort of teams warne beat up) it's always going to be the job of the quicks to beat india.

Remember the legendary shane warne never proved himself against india.

14 matches 43 wickets@47, if warne's long term prospects were based on india he would have had a short test career.

Lyon could bowl at his very best and still finish with fairly ordinarily numbers vs this indian team, that's the reality of playing the spin masters on dead tracks, we have to take into account that beer or any other aussie spinner would also struggle in the same circumstances.

 

[Simple Jack]

Don't get all the negativity tbh. Lyon hasn't looked bad in any of his test innings and he has looked very good in quite a few of them.

He should get an extended run to establish himself imo.

 

[Yoda_]

Think the thing that seperates Lyon from his predecessors is his attacking nature that has helped him capture wickets.

The more familiar names that have come and gone in recent times have all, generally, been negative, gap fill types.

there are exceptions (see Jason Krejza) who lost control to easily, and players that are just damn unlucky (hauritz), Lyon has been picked and done a reasonable job in his short time, so lets go with it, back him in, as the skipper is doing with his fields, and let the results speak for themselves.

I really, really, liked the ball that bowled the Kiwi tailender (was a tailended, but hell, it would have got most players in a twist), pure brilliance.

And for the recrod, everyone, including the Australian selectors seem to have been searching for a Shane Warne replacement, but have finally realised he is a once in a lifetime bowler, we are finally backing in someone with a real future.

 

[Ill Chicken]

Once the curators produce the flat wickets for the real test series this summer, it'll be Lyon to lamb.

 

[CAS79]

Krejza is a far too attacking/loose option to have in the mix with a most likely green pace attack. Unless there's an absolute dust bowl pitch to play two spinners on, he won't get a look in.

Another thing that will hurt Jason Kreja getting the gig as second spinner on a dustbowl is the fact he's behind Doherty in Tasmania's selection order. so unless the selectors are watching Lindisfarne games I think it's safe to assume that someone else is going to be the 2nd spinner.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Once the curators produce the flat wickets for the real test series this summer, it'll be Lyon to lamb.

Since when has Sydney, Adelaide or Melbourne been flat? Adelaide will for the first few days, but it is a pitch where spinners do well....

 

[Ill Chicken]

Well they're not going to have a wicket like the GABBA straight up for an Indian test series are they?

 

[Simple Jack]

Of course not, We'll be getting 5 day pitches for every Indian test.

Maybe 6 day to try and counteract our customary batting collapses.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Well they're not going to have a wicket like the GABBA straight up for an Indian test series are they?

Why not what was wrong with the wicket? A little seam early, flattens days 2-3, spins a little early and then later in the match. I struggle to see how the Brisbane wicket was bad! Clarke made a big hundred, haddin, ponting, vettori, and Brownlie all made 50's. It isn't the pitch that caused NZ to collapse, theya re just an awful test side!

 

[Simple Jack]

Why not what was wrong with the wicket? A little seam early, flattens days 2-3, spins a little early and then later in the match. I struggle to see how the Brisbane wicket was bad! Clarke made a big hundred, haddin, ponting, vettori, and Brownlie all made 50's. It isn't the pitch that caused NZ to collapse, theya re just an awful test side!

You're not looking at it the right way.

In terms of a wicket to produce the best cricket, I agree with you completely, it was brilliant.

But it's not about that, the state associations only get an Indian series every few years. Gate takings+Indian (and to a lesser extent Aus) TV audiences mean it's a commercial no-brainer to have 5 full days gate takings and TV ads.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

How couldn't that wicket last 5 days, it was a good wicket! Had a bit in it for everyone, and if you got in, you were able to score freely.

 

[CumminsTomicFan]

He's really good. Much better than that liar Hauritz who said he had a "doosra" just to stay in the team.

 

[Baby_Jenks]

Hauritz does have a doosra. It just sticks out like dogs balls when he's about to bowl it and it only spins a little the other way but it's definitely there.

 

[Simple Jack]

How couldn't that wicket last 5 days, it was a good wicket! Had a bit in it for everyone, and if you got in, you were able to score freely.

It could have lasted 5 days given good test batting by all.

But there is a difference between a good wicket that will go 5 days with two good teams and a slab of concrete where bowling the opposition out will be nearly impossible.

One of them gives the possibility of 5 days play, one pretty much confirms it.

Unfortunately for the fans, it's all about the money

 

[jo172]

Massive wrap from Ashley Mallet on cricinfo: http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/543815.html

 

[PTizzle]

Honestly if that's how the selectors are looking at it then we are heading for haurtiz part 2.

We need lyon to bowl well against teams like england pakistan and south africa(the same sort of teams warne beat up) it's always going to be the job of the quicks to beat india.

Remember the legendary shane warne never proved himself against india.

14 matches 43 wickets@47, if warne's long term prospects were based on india he would have had a short test career.

Lyon could bowl at his very best and still finish with fairly ordinarily numbers vs this indian team, that's the reality of playing the spin masters on dead tracks, we have to take into account that beer or any other aussie spinner would also struggle in the same circumstances.

Totally agree, well said.

Lyon is the way forward imo.

 

[JimDocker]

Massive wrap from Ashley Mallet on cricinfo: http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/543815.html

Huge wrap indeed. Pretty big tick for Clarke as captain too.

 

[jo172]

Did the rest of the News Ltd papers get this stat this morning or just The Advertiser?

Nathan Lyon is Australia's leading wicket taker the calendar year of 2011! Granted not many bowlers have played as many tests, still kind of impressive though!

 

[Ill Chicken]

How couldn't that wicket last 5 days, it was a good wicket! Had a bit in it for everyone, and if you got in, you were able to score freely.

So out of the last couple of test series in Australia between Australia and India have you seen a wicket that looked anything like the Gabba?

 

[Bombertastic]

I'm a fan of Nathan Lyon. I hope they stick with him for a while. Stop changing spinner so much.

 

[MAXIMUM GRUNDAGE]

Did the rest of the News Ltd papers get this stat this morning or just The Advertiser?

Nathan Lyon is Australia's leading wicket taker the calendar year of 2011! Granted not many bowlers have played as many tests, still kind of impressive though!

On current form, Pattison may overtake him.