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He has kicked only one goal in the last two finals he has played. As the only key big forward in the team makes it hard to win. They need another target up forward to cover his declining years.
 
Just doesn't thrive on the big stage like the good captains do ala Nick Maxwell.

Umpire's whistle goes away during finals and so does Nick Riewoldt.
 

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cammo78 said:
On the contrary - it's most definitely in question.
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No surprise that Bulldogs supporters would question it since they are still bitter about losing their last two prelim finals where Riewoldt was BOG.

Jesus Baulks said:
Just doesn't thrive on the big stage like the good captains do ala Nick Maxwell.

Umpire's whistle goes away during finals and so does Nick Riewoldt.
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Riewoldt plays CHF on usually two or three opponents which is a lot tougher than Maxwell's role as a loose man in defence.

How did your key forwards Cloke and Dawes go yesterday? Don't recall them having a big impact either.
 
Here's the career average stats of two CHF's of the modern era for you:

Player A - 210 Games
  • 14.7 Disposals
  • 7.3 Marks
  • 2.4 Goals
  • 1.3 Behinds
  • 1.1 Tackles
Player B - 218 Games
  • 16.3 Disposals
  • 8.7 Marks
  • 2.2 Goals
  • 1.4 Behinds
  • 1.3 Tackles
Looking at the above, you would say both players are equal, with Player B possibly being a bit better. One is consistently regarded as an unquestionable champion of the game, whilst the champion status of the other is being questioned in this thread.

Player A is Jonathan Brown. Player B is Nick Riewoldt.

It's all too easy to dig into a player when they're having a poor season. There is far more to Nick's season this year than what is known to the media (and evidently everyone here) and it was alluded to earlier in this thread.

I brought it up on the St Kilda board before quickly removing it, under the advice of others. Nick and the club have obviously wanted to keep the matter in secrecy. In the 10 minutes the thread I made was up, it managed to change the opinion of one opposition supporter.

In respect of Nick and the club I, nor any other St Kilda supporter with this knowledge can disclose it. What I can tell you is that it is severe and when you add it to the numerous other things destroying him mentally, it would be clear to you why he is having such a horrid season. It would destroy the strongest of people.

So to everyone here questioning him, calling him soft, or taking pot-shots - you have no idea what you're talking about.
 
Strahany said:
It's all too easy to dig into a player when they're having a poor season. There is far more to Nick's season this year than what is known to the media (and evidently everyone here) and it was alluded to earlier in this thread.

I brought it up on the St Kilda board before quickly removing it, under the advice of others. Nick and the club have obviously wanted to keep the matter in secrecy. In the 10 minutes the thread I made was up, it managed to change the opinion of one opposition supporter.

In respect of Nick and the club I, nor any other St Kilda supporter with this knowledge can disclose it. What I can tell you is that it is severe and when you add it to the numerous other things destroying him mentally, it would be clear to you why he is having such a horrid season. It would destroy the strongest of people.

So to everyone here questioning him, calling him soft, or taking pot-shots - you have no idea what you're talking about.
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I'll bite - if he really is under that sort of cloud, he shouldn't be anywhere near a football field.......

Can't all have the courage of a lion like Jarrad McVeigh, still lacing the boots and kicking serious arse......
 
Strahany said:
Here's the career average stats of two CHF's of the modern era for you:

Player A - 210 Games
  • 14.7 Disposals
  • 7.3 Marks
  • 2.4 Goals
  • 1.3 Behinds
  • 1.1 Tackles
Player B - 218 Games
  • 16.3 Disposals
  • 8.7 Marks
  • 2.2 Goals
  • 1.4 Behinds
  • 1.3 Tackles
Looking at the above, you would say both players are equal, with Player B possibly being a bit better. One is consistently regarded as an unquestionable champion of the game, whilst the champion status of the other is being questioned in this thread.

Player A is Jonathan Brown. Player B is Nick Riewoldt.

It's all too easy to dig into a player when they're having a poor season. There is far more to Nick's season this year than what is known to the media (and evidently everyone here) and it was alluded to earlier in this thread.

I brought it up on the St Kilda board before quickly removing it, under the advice of others. Nick and the club have obviously wanted to keep the matter in secrecy. In the 10 minutes the thread I made was up, it managed to change the opinion of one opposition supporter.

In respect of Nick and the club I, nor any other St Kilda supporter with this knowledge can disclose it. What I can tell you is that it is severe and when you add it to the numerous other things destroying him mentally, it would be clear to you why he is having such a horrid season. It would destroy the strongest of people.

So to everyone here questioning him, calling him soft, or taking pot-shots - you have no idea what you're talking about.
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He had a feeling of a fleeting moment of attraction to rosie odonnell? he smirked at a kathy griffin joke? Death, degenerative disease and impotence are part of life but i agree some things can just crush you; spill the beans... no footballer has the right to privacy or to be shielded from intrigue over well intentioned innuendo!
 
Xtreme said:
I'll bite - if he really is under that sort of cloud, he shouldn't be anywhere near a football field.......

Can't all have the courage of a lion like Jarrad McVeigh, still lacing the boots and kicking serious arse......
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It's in his character to never give up and with the amount of pressure he puts on himself, he would never even consider deserting the team. In retrospect he may have negatively impacted the team this year by playing, or St Kilda could well have played just as poorly without him.
 
twentington said:
He had a feeling of a fleeting moment of attraction to rosie odonnell? he smirked at a kathy griffin joke? Death, degenerative disease and impotence are part of life but i agree some things can just crush you; spill the beans... no footballer has the right to privacy or to be shielded from intrigue over well intentioned innuendo!
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There is no chance I would risk posting such information (again). Many bottom feeding journos trawl through threads looking for anything to write a story on. If I was to divulge it here, the whole of Australia would know tomorrow morning. No thanks.
 

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Plugger35 said:
No surprise that Bulldogs supporters would question it since they are still bitter about losing their last two prelim finals where Riewoldt was BOG.
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Deflection. That has been mentioned twice in this thread already. In one prelim he got one goal from an incredibly soft bump which he milked, and he got a lucky toepoke. Hardly completely dominant. In the other he was playing against a noticeably injured Dale Morris. When it came time to stamp himself in grand finals, Riewoldt fell to pieces. As he did last night.
 
Seriously, first Rioli, now Riewoldt - people come up with some silly crap in September.

Needs to go away and get himself fit, but if Ross feels like announcing his "retirement" I'd hope my club would swoop nice and quick.
 
Falchoon said:
A Footscray equivalent is Scott West
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Probably. Scott West- 7 best and fairests, 5 all australians, 1 Lou Richards medal. Amazingly amassed 175 Brownlow medal votes over his career without winning the award once. Only Leigh Matthews got more without winning the award. Nick Riewoldt- 5 best and fairests, 4 all Australians, 1 Leigh Matthews Trophy. 95 career brownlow votes.
 
Strahany said:
Here's the career average stats of two CHF's of the modern era for you:

Player A - 210 Games
  • 14.7 Disposals
  • 7.3 Marks
  • 2.4 Goals
  • 1.3 Behinds
  • 1.1 Tackles
Player B - 218 Games
  • 16.3 Disposals
  • 8.7 Marks
  • 2.2 Goals
  • 1.4 Behinds
  • 1.3 Tackles
Looking at the above, you would say both players are equal, with Player B possibly being a bit better. One is consistently regarded as an unquestionable champion of the game, whilst the champion status of the other is being questioned in this thread.

Player A is Jonathan Brown. Player B is Nick Riewoldt.

It's all too easy to dig into a player when they're having a poor season. There is far more to Nick's season this year than what is known to the media (and evidently everyone here) and it was alluded to earlier in this thread.

I brought it up on the St Kilda board before quickly removing it, under the advice of others. Nick and the club have obviously wanted to keep the matter in secrecy. In the 10 minutes the thread I made was up, it managed to change the opinion of one opposition supporter.

In respect of Nick and the club I, nor any other St Kilda supporter with this knowledge can disclose it. What I can tell you is that it is severe and when you add it to the numerous other things destroying him mentally, it would be clear to you why he is having such a horrid season. It would destroy the strongest of people.

So to everyone here questioning him, calling him soft, or taking pot-shots - you have no idea what you're talking about.
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Brown stands up in big games, that's why he's considered a champion.

Would be interesting to see Brown and Riewoldt v top 8/bottom 8.
 
showusyacunningt said:
Brown stands up in big games, that's why he's considered a champion.

Would be interesting to see Brown and Riewoldt v top 8/bottom 8.
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Is there not enough evidence in this thread to disprove such false claims?
 
FFS, people here are quick to shove in the boots when someone is down.

The guys knees are starting to buckle as he has been carrying that side for almost a decade.

Give the guy a break and see if he can get over his injuries.

Put him in any side and he would immediately improve it.

And I don't even like St Kilda!

Enough said!
 

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UrLordUnbeliever said:
Has been in a form slump since 2008.
Very average CHF. Only reason some people think he was BOG in the prelim against the Dogs was he got his foot to one very lucky goal that stole the Saints the game.
All Australians are essentially just media prizes - how many times has he actually represented Australia?
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Is this the worst post in history?

Form slump since 08? He was at his absolute peak in 09. 17 disposal, 10 marks and 3 goals a game is a huge effort.


And please tell me you don't actually rate players baed on whether they're chosen to tour ireland:o
 
Plugger35 said:
No surprise that Bulldogs supporters would question it since they are still bitter about losing their last two prelim finals where Riewoldt was BOG.
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ah that old chestnut.

Mate - any bitterness was well and truly extinguished by your losing by a kick then drawing the following weeks.

Nice deflection.

With respect to '09 - he'd been unsighted to half time, got a shocking free kick and toe poked a lucky goal.

If that's the criteria you base his BOG on, it's clear you significantly overrate him.

Great player? Yes.

St Kilda champion? Yes.

All time champion of the game? Not a chance in hell.
 
Riewoldt also took a strong contested mark and kicked the goal that put us in front in the last quarter of the 2009 prelim. His four goals in a low scoring game was a significant contribution to us winning.
 

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