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Oppo Camp Non Eagles AFL discussion thread II

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I’m not sure what’s hard to grasp about this concept.

Sometimes two people want to spend their future together so they make decisions that will be mutually beneficial to their partnership. Hill’s options aren’t play for Fremantle or never earn a cent for the rest of his life. He could just go get paid by a Victorian club, she’d be happier, in turn he’d probably be happier, everyone wins.

I don’t understand this angle of “if you’re unhappy in the scenario you’re in that’s too bad, because your partner is well paid.”
"everyone wins".

Hard to see how Freo wins.
 
"everyone wins".

Hard to see how Freo wins.

Freo wins because they get some degree of compensation, and can continue to employ people who want are fully engaged with their pursuit of success. Freo wins because they get a reputation as a club that looks after players, not taking some 1800s approach of ‘you signed the contract so we own you’. Happy employees are much more valuable than unhappy employees.

The Eagles didn’t get compensated for Sam Mitchell breaking his contract. The Eagles didn’t get compensated for Brady Rawlings breaking his contract. The Eagles still ‘win’ in these situations because you gain the reputation as a club that treats their staff well, that puts an emphasis on off-field wellbeing, and therefore in future you’re more likely to attract quality staff. Nobody wants to go to a club that treats their employees like shit because they signed a piece of paper years ago and don’t acknowledge that situations change.

Dayne Beams requested a trade to Brisbane because his dad was dying. Is that a good enough reason in your eyes to break a contract? If it is, then you acknowledge that there are some reasons that are valid when requesting a trade. After that it’s up to individual clubs and players to privately figure out how serious their situation is.
 

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Who were the other players that RTB delisted in the media before telling them? Their names escape me.

Barlow?

Round 17 last year, Daniel Pearce and Michael Johnson were publicly retired by Ross in a routine press conference.

"I think it's pretty obvious they're going to exit," Lyon said.

"We did it (farewell game) with Matthew Pavlich, and they've been incredibly good servants for the club.

“It is something we will get to.”

"As a caring football club, that should be on our agenda."

Despite being a caring club with no finals prospects and four home games after that press conference, Pearce never played again.
 
Far out, even better follow up quotes when Ross was grilled about retiring Pearce and Johnson last year.

”I’m not here to talk about people’s futures. It’s not really how we should operate. Clearly there was a discussion about veterans last week. That was fine. There were some sensational headlines to come out of that, but that’s OK,” Lyon said.

That’s a shot over the bow, what was written and said. I’m not prepared to discuss anyone’s future in media conferences, or with the media. Because it’s not my role. I’m just going to coach.”

One season later, he just couldn’t keep his budding mouth closed.
 


I'll never complain about losing streaks again.


Looks like the last time they played at the MCG was 2004. There was this golden period where they played a few times at the MCG in the 1990s between Essendon being a Windy Hill tenant and Essendon being a Docklands tenant.

Since that 1923 games Sydney have lost to Essendon at the MCG 9 times.

 
Looks like the last time they played at the MCG was 2004. There was this golden period where they played a few times at the MCG in the 1990s between Essendon being a Windy Hill tenant and Essendon being a Docklands tenant.

Since that 1923 games Sydney have lost to Essendon at the MCG 9 times.

I figured that would be the case.
Don't bring your fancy numbers and research into this.
 

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Who were the other players that RTB delisted in the media before telling them? Their names escape me.

Barlow?


He announced that Robert Eddy, Steven Baker, Michael Gardiner and Andrew McQualter had all retired. This was news to Baker and Eddy who never gave any indication they were retiring.
 
Fremantle seems to have a lot of these 'boomerang' players...... Hill, Tarrant, Mcphee, Croad.

It's bizarre, Mcphee especially so - he went back. o_O
Did Josh Carr end up back at Port? He certainly moved back to Adelaide and coached at Port I think?

But yeah, it's an odd one. Interstaters and WA boys alike decide that they need a change of scenery or want to move back home and Freo is the most willing club to oblige. Then after a couple years they find that the grass isn't always greener on the other side and realise how sh!t that club is and head back where they came from.

Has never happened to us.
 

He announced that Robert Eddy, Steven Baker, Michael Gardiner and Andrew McQualter had all retired. This was news to Baker and Eddy who never gave any indication they were retiring.

So just the seven players Ross has prematurely announced retirement for. Not a bad hit rate.
 
He ended up playing for Port again. I remember, because this really deserves to be on Jared Brennan's career highlights reel:



I have no doubt the dirty little prick had been doing something to deserve it.
 

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Given how savage Buckley was about his team in his press conference, the speech he gave behind closed doors must have blistered paint. The Pie finger will be pulled out of the Pie arse tonight.
 
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