Oppo Camp Non Eagles Discussion thread - 2017 edition (continued in Part 2)

[Quinz]

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AFTER 12 seasons, the Western Force are set to be axed.

The Daily Telegraph understands that the Force will be the Australian team scrapped should the Super Rugby competition be cut to 15 teams, the model SANZAAR prefers for 2018-19.

And in a revamped competition, the ARU is planning to take control of the Force roster and tell players contracted beyond this season which rival Australian clubs they’ll join next year.

The Force’s future hinges on whether South Africa agrees to cut two of their teams, a decision that will be made by April 6 when they have a key meeting.

All SANZAAR partners have agreed in principal that a more streamlined 15-team competition is needed for next year, and that involves Australia cutting one team and South Africa cutting two.

All parties are working towards the 15-team concept but have left the possibility open of retaining the current 18-team structure if South Africa suddenly decides it cannot lose two teams.

Political issues are involved, with the South African government not keen to see the Southern Kings, a side they fought to have in the competition, removed.

But there seems to be growing belief among the game’s stakeholders that a 15-team model can be made for next year, and that would mean the Perth franchise being removed.

As part of the overhaul, contracted Force players would have any remaining years of their deals honoured by the ARU.

But as part of this, the ARU wants to dictate where those players go next, rather than having a large chunk of Force players opting for the Waratahs or Reds because they’d rather live in Sydney or Brisbane.

The abolition of the Force would be an exercise in strengthening the other teams who were considered for axing; the Melbourne Rebels and Brumbies.

The Telegraph understands that while star Wallaby players like Dane Haylett-Petty and Adam Coleman will be given more flexibility by the ARU in where they want to play, non-Wallaby players will essentially be reassigned clubs by the national body.

The ARU would not comment for this story. They have their hands tied because South Africa has yet to confirm they’ll cut two teams.

If the South Africans don’t cut the required teams, Super Rugby will remain an 18-team tournament next year and the ARU would be left embarrassed by having declared they were willing to lose a team.

The Rebels are privately owned and the ARU fear a legal backlash by owner Andrew Cox should they attempt to remove them.

The Brumbies are Australia’s most successful franchise and leading the local conference, while they have powerful backers.

NSW and Queensland produce the bulk of Australia’s players and have never been in danger.

The ARU took over running of the Force last year, due to serious financial issues.

The Force launched a new ownership campaign last week, urging fans to pay $1000 each to own 10,000 shares in the newly public Western Force Owners Pty Ltd company. Buyers will be refunded if the franchise folds.

The Force, formed in 2005, entered Super Rugby in 2006 but have never made the finals. They have finished in the bottom three of the competition in six of their 11 seasons.

 

[ZergMinion]

Oh ffs

How is it racist?

These 3 tweets are pretty much all I know about the situation. That and lots of people whining about it. I'm starting to think some people just can't handle a teensy bit of historical context without completely losing their shit.

Geoff Lemon Sport‏ @GeoffLemonSport Mar 25
Geoff Lemon Sport Retweeted Andrew Wu

Astounding. Chinese-Aussie journo points out that 'chinaman' is derogatory. Gets piled on by white and Indian guys telling him it's fine.

Geoff Lemon Sport‏ @GeoffLemonSport Mar 25
Just because you've always done something doesn't give it inherent value. People act like their identity is threatened by any minor change.

Geoff Lemon Sport‏ @GeoffLemonSport Mar 25
"But Chinaman is named after Ellis Achong." Yep. Of whom the most notable thing England found was his race. But that's not racist. Nah.

 

[Monocle]

No surprise

What might have been.......

Yep Keys indeed what might have been.

Rohan O'Brien and Co .............. Venables would want to be pretty bloody good player otherwise the of distain and calls for your head are going to be rife.

As I posted in the mock draft thread some time ago I wanted The Shaker.

What I didn't want was " SPP Taken " From right under our noses.

As mentioned in my mock draft post I contacted my mate Liam Neeson and he was to ring O'Brien pre draft and the conversation that was to go much like this.

"You need to know this I don't have money. But what I do have is a very particular skill set of skills ; skills I have acquired over a very long career, skills that make me a nightmare for people like you.
If you draft SPP that will be the end of it. Ill not look for you. I will not pursue you. But if you don't draft SPP. I will look for you, I will find you. and I WILL KILL YOU. "

Update "The Asset" has been contacted and is on standby, engagement pending on how things unfold during the season.

Puts a whole new meaning on the Wallace's drafting term " locked and loaded".

 

[wraglesweb]

Anyone read Mick Malthouses herald sun article

(How Clarko pulled off a trade week sting?)

If you haven't, read it it's a laugh he's becoming a senile old prick !

 

[avishka5]

Lol, Kennelly made a fool of him self yesterday when defending Barry hall. Good to see both Luke Darcy and Wayne Carey distance them selves from it. Darcy said that it was a league wide issue and Carey said that drugs hurt the eagles winning more premierships.

 

[Keys]

Lol, Kennelly made a fool of him self yesterday when defending Barry hall. Good to see both Luke Darcy and Wayne Carey distance them selves from it. Darcy said that it was a league wide issue and Carey said that drugs hurt the eagles winning more premierships.

If there was one pleasing thing to come from the heralds hatchet job it's that outside of them and a couple of other numpties (gollum and the thug) the story didn't really gain much traction in the rest of the media

 

[avishka5]

If there was one pleasing thing to come from the heralds hatchet job it's that outside of them and a couple of other numpties (gollum and the thug) the story didn't really gain much traction in the rest of the media

You know you should probably stop receiving these same syroy every few years, when even your colleagues and counterparts get sick of it.

 

[ziad]

Lol, Kennelly made a fool of him self yesterday when defending Barry hall. Good to see both Luke Darcy and Wayne Carey distance them selves from it. Darcy said that it was a league wide issue and Carey said that drugs hurt the eagles winning more premierships.

Woosha on the couch was measured - 'it is obviously an uninformed opinion'

 

[jesterwester]

Woosha on the couch was measured - 'it is obviously an uninformed opinion'

That just about sums up the herald sun, actually.

 

[Dark Sharks]

Dark Sharks
see how long you can last without crying

 

[lewigie]

The India series has hit me right in the feels tbh

I almost woke up in tears last night from a dream where India chased it down with 10 wickets in hand

 

[liam123]

Shit sakes the Ven better be bloody good...missing out on SPP is already looking bad

 

[Eaglespur]

On a plus note. I put 10 in Wines for the Brownlow and he got over 30 touches.. likely to poll. Yayyy

 

[Chris_6678]

Cousins has been sentenced 12 months in jail.

 

[avishka5]

Cousins has been sentenced 12 months in jail.

Good.

 

[Dark Sharks]

Cousins has been sentenced 12 months in jail.

Not good, the small dimensions won't suit his style of play.

Much better suited to the wide expanses of Subiaco oval where he can use his gut running to full advantage.

 

[YippeeYiYeo]

just on the SPP thing, ive watched some footage now and despite his big round 1 debut he still reminds me of Waterhouse. The only footage of Vanables is last years under age games but that kid is slick with his disposal and looks a bit more classy IMO. So as much as it stings seeing a young west aussie play a good game for Port on the weekend, im patient and hoping Venables will get on the park this year and show us what hes got.

 

[the harry]

Good.

Locking up a guy with a meth addiction in a place with high meth concentration isn't exactly going to help him.

 

[SpaceClef]

Williamson wasting reviews worse than Kohli and Watson's lovechild

 

[ziad]

Locking up a guy with a meth addiction in a place with high meth concentration isn't exactly going to help him.

past being helped

 

[Crimson King]

Only jacked fibras can save him now.

 

[avishka5]

Wtf.

 

[WCEforeverman]

Because in the 1930's there would have been such an abundance of Chinese cricketers - it would have been a source of bemusement for a cricketer to be dismissed by a chinaman

Further, the term is applied to any left arm wrist spinner whatever their nationality so why bring it up now just because in this instance it's an Indian player

If anything I see it as an endearing term and describes what is an unusual and often mystifying form of bowling rather well. Exotic almost

Or are people going to start claiming that describing stuff from the orient as exotic is racist as well

I always thought it was because it was unorthodox spin, that is the opposite of the norm, it was called a chinaman because China being on the opposite side of the world is a known colloquialism.

I could be way off though.

 

[matt_bas]

So I'm hearing Willy has rocked up at the club today after being up north and has put on a fair few kgs

 

[Monocle]

So I'm hearing Willy has rocked up at the club today after being up north and has put on a fair few kgs

Are we talking a feed or turtles type putting on a few kgs ?
Or just a few kgs ?

Hope he hasn't been Sampied .