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Millky95
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I've moved passed angry with the club. I'm hurt, disappointed and now just sad.
LukeParkerno1
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Least they played a decent first quarter and a half which is more than we have in some games this year
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Would've been another 100 point flogging if we hadnt turned up for a half.
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What are you actually saying though? You’re always on hand to ridicule the people criticising the team, but this looks extremely silly after performances like last night’s. Do you think the team is above criticism or something? Should we never express displeasure regardless of how badly they play or how mediocre the list might be? Constant positivity no matter the situation? That sounds so boring and would kill the board imo.
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Yep I was impressed with the pressure the first half
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Just have a crack and finish strong in 2025
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Mate, We were not a top 6 defence in 2024 (7th). We've consistently been a top 6 attack, and not consistently been a top 6 defence.
I'm not sure what point you think I proved, if anything you proved your own point wrong with that selective sample size. Essentially you're saying in the last 6-7 games we've been winning because our defence was good regardless of our mediocre scoring. 6-7 games good games does not make that a top 6 defence, when years of data prove from the same defence otherwise.
All the top 7 sides right now have high quality KD's.....only 3 of them have high quality KF's.
Add Jesse Hogan into our side it makes a small splash, in fact probably encourages more useless bombs to an outnumbered player. No doubt we're slightly better but it doesn't fix the biggest issues.
Add Sam Taylor into the side instead and it improves us insanely.
I think you miss my point, fine for us to improve our attack, but IF we are not prioritising fixing our defence first... Next year will be another year where there's these continual collapses keep happening from time to time....and there will be no chance for a flag. Defence wins flags.
Anyway we disagree, that's fine.
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What difference does it make anyway? Why is there a loyalty test ?
There’s no shame venting on this website - we aren’t posting on their personal Instagram demanding they be sacked.
I don’t think there’s any doubt they’re trying their best and I’m sure they’re as disappointed as we are. I’d be amazed if some of the coaches aren’t more direct than this - I know for example just how harsh sam Mitchell has been to some of his players and the fact that a few are on here expressing frustration is hardly a basis for criticism
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Statistically we were top 6. Given that all the statistics I used across them both included finals. If I wasn't to include Finals then the statistics would further prove my point that our Offence has turned to crap this year.
My different data has clearly shown over multiple time horizons that the struggle and difference between 2024 and 2025 has been offensively
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Plenty to like in the first half our hunt around the ball and overlapping in numbers was impressive probably a few goals short.
2nd half uhh as you would expect a top 8 opponent they would play better but where was the response from us?? where did the first half go we showed we are capable of fighting back against the Dogs.
But sadly all the good work we did in the first half was again all for nothing
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At the risk of derailing this thread - have a look at our stats from 2024 round 14 onwards
7th for points against in 2024. The other data is kind of irrelevant to me when that is the final result. Either way we were the best defence at 13-1, shows how badly we fell off to fall that far on any metric anyway.
Our offense had been out injured all year, our defence has had issues but been less affected and has still been average. We have more scope to improve our offense with what's already on the list than we do to improve our defence with what's already on our list. That's all our say, both ends need improvement but one is more far urgent and costly to our chances imo. Anyway we can agree to disagree.
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In the first 13 weeks of the season
We conceded 69.4 points per game
We scored in that time 104 points per game
Since Round 15 2024
Conceded 86 points per game
Scored 87 points per game
2025
This year we have conceded 84 points per game
scored 78.9 points per game
In the last 6 weeks
We have conceded 80.3 pts per game
We have scored 82.5 pts per game
Probably shows a little bit of my confirmation bias this statistic.
However, when paired with the scoring accuracy statistic I presented early that it is slated slightly in favour of a bigger fall off for the forwards and the forward area is imo easier to fix
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Lot of people are concerned with how other people support the team around here 
. Who cares, each to their own.
. Who cares, each to their own.
Kbroome
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Statistically my last post shows that the drop off is rather even however it shows that the offence has fallen off more this year.
I think both areas need improvement but Im just saying that statistically the biggest drop off has occurred in the offence and that is the easier way to improve the side especially with the player out in the market. We have structural issues with the forward line where as the backline it is more improving directly player on player
The solution is simple. Comms and talking and positioning is easy when you are winning. Everyone is more vocal
When you sre losing hard like that they need to learn to communicate even better than when we are flying
Thats when the true leaders matter and they have to not be affected by the scoreboard or momentum
In saying that I still think injuries to talls and asking players to play one level of opponent up ie francis on taylor, buckley on buller would have turned the game anyway
Im seeiously surprised at the over reaction like all the supporters also have ptsd but in my eyes yesterday doesnt count. If a run on like that happens to a near full strength side then yea go all out
No 7 hour review of this game please. The team is mentally shot.
They may need another 2-3 years to wipe off the demons of 22-24 when we’ve churned more players over.
They may need another 2-3 years to wipe off the demons of 22-24 when we’ve churned more players over.
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