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Ditto, Boulos where is the thread where the carlton supporters said kennedy was better than pendlebury??
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Ditto, Boulos where is the thread where the carlton supporters said kennedy was better than pendlebury??
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ATM Pendlebury is better he has shown alot more, but Kennedy is a KPP which does take longer to develop and has shown he will be a very good player and imo will overtake Pendlebury in the next few years
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bahahahahahaahahahahah get off it mate, wce develop there players alot better then Carlton or you just pick hacks in the draft
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yeah i had to pick up on this as well.
the amount of development kennedy has shown in his short time at west coast is 5x that amount of what he showed at carlton.
being traded has fast tracked his development i reckon.
Hardly. Hasn't done anything so far. Let's be honest, the Weagles record at developing KP forwards is beyond a nightmare. I wish JK all the best, but the odds are against him given the Weagles poor KP forward development record. Are you happy with your pick#3? Looks like a mistake. In fact I don't think you got any future superstars with the bucket-load of picks you had. The Dees did a lot better with their draft picks.
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Hardly. Hasn't done anything so far. Let's be honest, the Weagles record at developing KP forwards is beyond a nightmare. I wish JK all the best, but the odds are against him given the Weagles poor KP forward development record. Are you happy with your pick#3? Looks like a mistake. In fact I don't think you got any future superstars with the bucket-load of picks you had. The Dees did a lot better with their draft picks.
clearly he has already shown he has what it takes to make it very far in the AFL. with injuries permitting he should be looking to solidify his spot in the team. his hard running and ability to bring other team mates into the game is a great asset.
and yes, i am very happy with our pick 3, chris masten. have you watched him play? he's shown enough talent in his first year with a slight frame to say he will be a player. its pretty shocking that you're that quick to shut down a first year player struck down with injury.
you of all supporters should know that kids need time to develop. hopefully it shouldnt take as long for chris to develop as carlton's kids, because lets face it....you guys have a shocking record at developing players.
but hey, you guys got judd so everything is just swell at carlton.
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Put it this way, Masten hasn't had the best first year, but is sh*tloads ahead of Gibbs at the same stages in their careers. What did Gibbs do last year?
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Firstly, I meant that at a new team he would take more time to settle in.
Secondly, how many games has he played at WCE? I would be sure he played more last year at Carlton.
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I agree with your first point.
He was injured a fair bit and put out for the season fairly early on, so it's not very fair to compare.
Seen him play quite a few games - decent, but never going to be a star. Palmer would have been a better choice. Steven Browne looked far more accomplished than Masten in the Blues V Weagles game BTW.
Won a rising star nomination, and played every game. Not bad for a 17 year old bottom aged draftee. This year he's taken his game to another level - just an amazing talent. By contrast Thomas and Pendlebury have had go-backwards development years.
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Won a rising star nomination, and played every game. Not bad for a 17 year old bottom aged draftee. This year he's taken his game to another level - just an amazing talent. By contrast Thomas and Pendlebury have had go-backwards development years.
He also backed out of a contest with stephen milne, and tripped over himself while taking a shot on the goal line. He was looking like a failure, and even some carlton fans would admit that. Credit where it's due though, he's really stepped up this year, but that's irrelavent. Masten has had an injury plagued first year, and will come back and make his mark in the next few years.
All I'm trying to say is that it's too early to say he's looking like a failure, carlton supporters of all people should know that.
Pendlebury handbreak V Leo Barry (2007 Swans final 2nd quarter 20 min mark)
Pendlebury handbreak V Crows defender last last 1/4 (late season H&A 2007)
Pendlebury handbreak V Morton (Tiges 2008)
Pendlebury handbreak V Cloke (Blues 2008 on the wing at the G before half time)
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lol.
Thanks for such an insightful post. Did you come up with this by yourself, or did you get help?
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Pendlebury handbreak V Leo Barry (2007 Swans final 2nd quarter 20 min mark)
Pendlebury handbreak V Crows defender last last 1/4 (late season H&A 2007)
Pendlebury handbreak V Morton (Tiges 2008)
Pendlebury handbreak V Cloke (Blues 2008 on the wing at the G before half time)
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lol.
Don't take this personally. I'm talking about Masten.
You were wrong to say it was a mistake picking him last season.
You're editing of quotes shows how you cannot intuitively respond to an argument.
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It summed up your response perfectly.
Nothing wrong with it being short if it says all that's needed.
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Are you saying that your recruiter anticipated the Judd trade a two seasons early, and planned to trade Kennedy to WC even before he was a Carlton player?
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Irrelevant. JK helped us get Judd, and that's all that matters. So we won big time. JK should be a decent player, and will probably end up being a lot more valuable than Pendlebury, who had a backwards development year in 2008. Pendlebury's attack on the footy continued to be soft in 2008, and he just looks vague in pressure situations e.g. the Saints final.
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Seen him play quite a few games - decent, but never going to be a star. Palmer would have been a better choice. Steven Browne looked far more accomplished than Masten in the Blues V Weagles game BTW.
wow thats very interesting parrot, because i could've sworn you said that you rated masten higher than palmer before...
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=442014&highlight=masten+parrot
Parrot - Palmer has got a lot of media attention, but I haven't been overly impressed. He has impressive endurance, and runs hard all day, clocks up a lot of stats, but the effectiveness of disposal is average, with a low-hurt factor. His awareness and composure are also average. Thought Masten was better in some ways i.e. more natural footy smarts, and better skill execution, But I'm not convinced he was the right #3 choice. Steven Browne, selected by Carlton with a 30+ pick, looked a lot faster and more skilled than Masten last Friday. The Blues recruiters look like they've picked up yet another bargain.
you seem to change your mind quite a bit dont you?
saying masten is never going to be a star is very daft even by your standards (ok on second thoughts, your standards are supremely low). im not saying he's going to be a star but to judge on a handful of games is jumping the gun a tad.
let him have a full preseason and string some matches in row to show what he's made of.
but yeah, steven browne was better than masten in that particular game supposedly, so therefore he's the better selection no doubt.
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wow thats very interesting parrot, because i could've sworn you said that you rated masten higher than palmer before...
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=442014&highlight=masten+parrot
Parrot - Palmer has got a lot of media attention, but I haven't been overly impressed. He has impressive endurance, and runs hard all day, clocks up a lot of stats, but the effectiveness of disposal is average, with a low-hurt factor. His awareness and composure are also average. Thought Masten was better in some ways i.e. more natural footy smarts, and better skill execution, But I'm not convinced he was the right #3 choice. Steven Browne, selected by Carlton with a 30+ pick, looked a lot faster and more skilled than Masten last Friday. The Blues recruiters look like they've picked up yet another bargain.
you seem to change your mind quite a bit dont you?
saying masten is never going to be a star is very daft even by your standards (ok on second thoughts, your standards are supremely low). im not saying he's going to be a star but to judge on a handful of games is jumping the gun a tad.
let him have a full preseason and string some matches in row to show what he's made of.
but yeah, steven browne was better than masten in that particular game supposedly, so therefore he's the better selection no doubt.
Seriously mate why would you bother putting so much time in replying to the knuckle head who wrote this. He has proven in his time on this site that he is one of the following.
A lazy Fatar$ed internet junky who sits in the cheersquad with his other nuf nuf friends and takes pleasure in bagging everyone and everything despite never actually acheiving anything in his life.
Someone who goes on this site purely to fish people in knowing full well that his comments are off the mark- I suspect this is the case. May god help him if its not.
The most biased of all footy supporters on this site(and thats saying something) that he only has the short sightedness to see carlton as the best and everyone else as the worst. Quite strange considering carlton have been the worst side this decade. If this is the case than he would know less about footy than anyone else on this site because I cannot believe he agrees with all he writes. No one is that stupid.
Either way its not worth while directly replying to him as you will not win. All it will contribute to him making a total goose of himself as he seems to do quite often.
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Now that Kennedy has gotten himself out of the developmental black hole known as Carlton he will improve rapidly. Carlton cannot develop kids, as shown even their top draft picks are taggers or have zero footskills.
Pendlebury is the best player from the 05 draft, and whilst Kennedy will be a good player, Penders is now and always will be better.
Pendlebury is the best player from the 05 draft, and whilst Kennedy will be a good player, Penders is now and always will be better.
Maybe the best Collingwood player from the 05' draft, but not remotely close to the best in the draft as a whole. I don't think I've seen a slower on-field thinker than Scotty. He's just so vague. It seems the game is too quick for him at times - e.g. watch his "decision making" in that Saints final. Was pretty bad. Went backwards in 2008. A lot of improvement required in 2009.
