Mega Thread Possible trades in 2015 for the Crows

[dylan123]

Even if he was a lock best 22 last year he would have got into the side at some stage, was borderline then and nothings changed.

 

[AFC979810]

Even if he was a lock best 22 last year he would have got into the side at some stage, was borderline then and nothings changed.

The swans hoped he would be a best 22 player to start the season last year after a very good 2013 (even despite his preseason injuries entering 2014). He had a month of shit football to start 2014 and hasn't been considered best 22 since.

He had a string of great games in the two's last year including that 64 possesion game and was in great touch, but still couldn't make the side. He is a damn good player - but the swans are just that good through the middle they couldn't find room for him.

He played the last two games of the regular season for the Swans. His game against Richmond in Round 23 was very good. 29 touches, 13 tackles and 6 clearances. Was dropped the next week. Name me any 'best 22 player' who gets dropped after a performance like that?

 

[dylan123]

That's why I don't believe he's a best 22 player or was last year.

 

[Sanders]

Last year.

At the time he had been returning from injury, got injured in early rounds missed games and was getting match fitness back against NEAFL teams which were amature league standard. This was confirmed by a Swans poster last year.

Other players must have gone past him this preseason.

you might need help clutching at so many straws

 

[AFC979810]

That's why I don't believe he's a best 22 player or was last year.

I agree with you. But apparently a bigfooty swans poster confirmed he was best 22 and that word was gospel for some despite the facts.

 

[FR0GGY]

How do we know he's on 450k

 

[Mego Red]

Sam Day? Reclamation project?

 

[I Lost My Keays]

Lachie Plowman?

 

[Bicks]

what's your thoughts of Darcy parish bicks? Think he would also suit what we need, bit of skill and pace in the outside .... Hope we go for a mid this year with a bit of speed and match winning ability

Another country Vic lad that has big wraps, good pace, has both an inside/outside game but not quite as skilful as Darcy Tucker IMO. but would certainly suit our need for outside pace. Next years draft really shaping as beauty that's why I wouldn't be as keen as some on BF are putting our early picks on the table for Aish just yet. Stephen Tahana [SA] a very quick mid size defender sure to be in demand too.

I'm pretty sure Sydney have another "Heeney" on their hands with Callum Mills too, I think they get first dibs on him too through the NSW Academy, time the AFL hit that on the head.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Another country Vic lad that has big wraps, good pace, has both an inside/outside game but not quite as skilful as Darcy Tucker IMO. but would certainly suit our need for outside pace. Next years draft really shaping as beauty that's why I wouldn't be as keen as some on BF are putting our early picks on the table for Aish just yet. Stephen Tahana [SA] a very quick mid size defender sure to be in demand too.

I'm pretty sure Sydney have another "Heeney" on their hands with Callum Mills too, I think they get first dibs on him too through the NSW Academy, time the AFL hit that on the head.

Yep I've seen mills play live about 4 x and he is advanced on heeney even from the same time last year but injured currently . Saw him dominate a Neafl game that heeney was also playing in last year. Tough, quick enough and clean - just like heeney but a little bit better footy brain . Heeney has really come on in last 6 months

Tahana would be great for a club with needs of small defenders , and could also be a good shut down mid....reckon he's a pick 20-30 and we don't really need his type ...I think we need to go for a match winner , someone to bring excitement and people through the gates. If danger stays its a bonus but would like a similar match winner type player with explosive speed and X factor in any case

 

[RodnyDangrfield]

Was thinking maybe for the Aish trade something like Lyons to Richmond, Vickery to Brisbane, 2nd round pick from us to Brisbane and aish to Adelaide.
Bris get roughly pick 30 and Vickery/Lose Aish, Richmond get an inside mid/morris replacement in Lyons but lose Vickery and we gain aish but lose 2nd round and lyons.

 

[I Lost My Keays]

Was thinking maybe for the Aish trade something like Lyons to Richmond, Vickery to Brisbane, 2nd round pick from us to Brisbane and aish to Adelaide.
Bris get roughly pick 30 and Vickery/Lose Aish, Richmond get an inside mid/morris replacement in Lyons but lose Vickery and we gain aish but lose 2nd round and lyons.

Plus we keep our first

Good idea

 

[Vader]

Was thinking maybe for the Aish trade something like Lyons to Richmond, Vickery to Brisbane, 2nd round pick from us to Brisbane and aish to Adelaide.
Bris get roughly pick 30 and Vickery/Lose Aish, Richmond get an inside mid/morris replacement in Lyons but lose Vickery and we gain aish but lose 2nd round and lyons.

I love this time of the year.. lots of Playstation Trading ideas with not the slightest foundation in reality...

Don't worry, not picking on you.. This entire thread is littered with this kind of post. No harm in it, given that we're obviously months away from having any realistic trades to discuss.

 

[RodnyDangrfield]

I love this time of the year.. lots of Playstation Trading ideas with not the slightest foundation in reality...

Don't worry, not picking on you.. This entire thread is littered with this kind of post. No harm in it, given that we're obviously months away from having any realistic trades to discuss.

Was only basing on the fact that they desperately need a key forward and Vickery and Lyons are wasted in the magoos, agree its all tealeaves and spitballs this time of year, just fun to see if anything like it comes true. No harm no foul Dark Lord.

 

[The Redemption]

Was only basing on the fact that they desperately need a key forward and Vickery and Lyons are wasted in the magoos, agree its all tealeaves and spitballs this time of year, just fun to see if anything like it comes true. No harm no foul Dark Lord.

Come on though. Vickery and a 2nd round pick will not attain Aish.

Just pay your first rounder and an out of favour midfielder and y'all will probably get the job done.

Not some tall hack and a pick that could be 30. Urgh

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

I love this time of the year.. lots of Playstation Trading ideas with not the slightest foundation in reality...

Don't worry, not picking on you.. This entire thread is littered with this kind of post. No harm in it, given that we're obviously months away from having any realistic trades to discuss.

what do you expect from a possible trades thread though?

 

[RodnyDangrfield]

Come on though. Vickery and a 2nd round pick will not attain Aish.

Just pay your first rounder and an out of favour midfielder and y'all will probably get the job done.

Not some tall hack and a pick that could be 30. Urgh

Why should we, we should do everything possible to hold onto our first rounder especially if he says he wants to come here (who knows). We got reamed in the tippet deal, excluding the apparent draft tampering the best we were ever gonna get for a top 10 forward (at the time) was jesse white and pick 19. I'm not suggesting my option is 100% fair for the lions but something like that should be achievable to get aish over the line, considering what they payed for beams, a top 15 mid in his prime at collingwood.

 

[spenze]

I love this time of the year.. lots of Playstation Trading ideas with not the slightest foundation in reality...

Particularly as that means we get to keep both our first round picks...

 

[Elite Crow]

Particularly as that means we get to keep both our first round picks...

And get back the lost picks

 

[The Redemption]

Why should we, we should do everything possible to hold onto our first rounder especially if he says he wants to come here (who knows). We got reamed in the tippet deal, excluding the apparent draft tampering the best we were ever gonna get for a top 10 forward (at the time) was jesse white and pick 19. I'm not suggesting my option is 100% fair for the lions but something like that should be achievable to get aish over the line, considering what they payed for beams, a top 15 mid in his prime at collingwood.

Somehow bringing Tippett and Beams is redundant when both players are not going to be involved in a trade for Aish though.

It is like going on a cranky history in order to play playstation trades. It won't work.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Was thinking maybe for the Aish trade something like Lyons to Richmond, Vickery to Brisbane, 2nd round pick from us to Brisbane and aish to Adelaide.
Bris get roughly pick 30 and Vickery/Lose Aish, Richmond get an inside mid/morris replacement in Lyons but lose Vickery and we gain aish but lose 2nd round and lyons.

Not the worst at all well done

Query is whether Richmond happy to lose top 10 draft pick for Lyons , they would have to be massively into him or he strings together some 25+ possession games before this year is out

Like it though !

 

[Cap]

Not the worst at all well done

Query is whether Richmond happy to lose top 10 draft pick for Lyons , they would have to be massively into him or he strings together some 25+ possession games before this year is out

Like it though !

we are going to have to give away picks to get Aish, not sure why people would think otherwise - unless Danger is going of course then we will just be offsetting things anyway.

 

[Vader]

Was only basing on the fact that they desperately need a key forward and Vickery and Lyons are wasted in the magoos, agree its all tealeaves and spitballs this time of year, just fun to see if anything like it comes true. No harm no foul Dark Lord.

When it comes to trading players, the safest assumption is that no player will be traded from the AFC unless they specifically request to be traded. The only exception to this rule in the last 15 years is Bernie Vince and he was traded due to a number of exceptional circumstances - Adelaide's need to get into the 1st round after the Tiprat penalties, his habit of cruising through his on-field performances, and the club tiring of him getting into trouble with his off-field antics. Adelaide are not averse to trading, but their trades only ever involve draft picks and players who want to leave of their own accord.

Right now, the only player who appears likely to be requesting a trade is Dangerfield (assuming the club matches his FA offer). That's not to say that clubs can't & won't be trying to entice some of our players to leave, possibly resulting in a changing landscape as the season progresses, but for now Dangerfield appears the only player likely to be found in the departure lounge.

The players most commonly "traded" here on BigFooty (gotta love Playstation Trading) are Lyons and JJ. JJ has never shown any indications of wanting to leave and Lyons has proven himself loyal to the Crows, despite being wooed by other clubs (most notably Melbourne). I would suggest that it's highly unlikely that either player will be going anywhere, any time soon.

While Brisbane have a noted need for a KPP forward, it's highly unlikely that the AFC would trade JJ (unless he wants to leave). Together with Tex & Betts he forms a 3-pronged attack which is arguably the best the club has ever had - the only competition coming from the Modra/Robran/Jarman combination from our premiership years. We don't have a readily identifiable replacement if JJ were to leave - JPod will be retired, Lowden may have kicked 3 goals in his only AFL game but he's very much an unknown quantity (and we haven't even seen him at SANFL level yet), that just leaves 1st year players in Dear, Ramsey & McGovern... While Aish would definitely strengthen our midfield, the loss of JJ would weaken our forward line to a much greater degree.

 

[Vader]

what do you expect from a possible trades thread though?

As I said, no harm in it given the lack of real trades to discuss. I just think it's unrealistic to suggest trading players like JJ & Lyons, given the club's history. These trades sound great on paper (or computer screens), but the reality is that there's almost no chance of them happening as the players have to sign off on the trades and none of the players listed have shown any indication of wanting to leave. In Lyons' case, the very opposite is true - he's had offers and decided to stay loyal to Adelaide.

 

[Paladin]

Thought you said the only thing keeping Tom Mitchell from playing was injury? Remember you saying he was best 22 for the Swans?

Didn't you tell us Walsh had guaranteed Lyons he was best 22 that's why he signed for 2 years