Pre-season draft

[funky_monk]

Since we have a spot on our lists (given our TPP are ok) we can actually make a selection in the pre-season draft. That means we could pick one of Surjan, Duffield (both training with the eagles) or Johnson before the eagles get a look in.

Personally I'm really hoping thats the case. Any of those three would be more than welcome to don the imperial purple.

So who should we get (if anyone)?

 

[Ripper]

Phil Read. To be selected for 2 games a year only .

 

[Kenny_01]

Surjan and co will go in the rookie draft.

 

[Streaker]

Do you have a profile for this fellow co.

 

[funky_monk]

Originally posted by Kenny_01
Surjan and co will go in the rookie draft.

That is could go in the rookie draft BUT are eligible for the PSD.

My understanding is that if they are 18 years old by the end of this year then they can be selected in the pre-season draft.

Collingwood selected Lokan from Port Magpies in last years PSD and he turned out to be a handy player.

Freo has a spot on their list and it is highly likely that Surjan, Duffield or Johnson will be selected by the Eagles with their rookie draft pick before us. So my question is... if we can select a guy who deserves to be on our list before most other teams can (and we can get the guy we want) why don't we?

 

[Kenny_01]

Originally posted by West Coast Stre
Do you have a profile for this fellow co.

Yes.

 

[Kenny_01]

I'm not sure if Surjan, Duffield, etc can be picked up in the pre-season draft, but would they nominate?

 

[Streaker]

Originally posted by funky_monk
So my question is... if we can select a guy who deserves to be on our list before most other teams can (and we can get the guy we want) why don't we?

There is this little thing known as a salary cap that seems to have the ability to stop teams taking players in the PSD.

 

[Streaker]

Originally posted by Kenny_01
I'm not sure if Surjan, Duffield, etc can be picked up in the pre-season draft, but would they nominate?

If they turn 18 by Dec 31st they are eligible.

 

[Kenny_01]

But a lot of clubs passed with their last picks in the national draft so why would they add him onto their senior list now when they could have on national draft day?

Just having a look at old drafts, it looks like they are elegible but I doubt they will go in the pre-season draft.

 

[Streaker]

Originally posted by Kenny_01
But a lot of clubs passed with their last picks in the national draft so why would they add him onto their senior list now when they could have on national draft day?

Just having a look at old drafts, it looks like they are elegible but I doubt they will go in the pre-season draft.

For the cost of one last round draftee you can have around two Rookie listed players. Rookie Draft you only have to pay around $20 000 whereas in the draft and PSD I think it is around $35 - 40 000 depending on what round you are chosen.

 

[funky_monk]

Freo didn't pass on their last pick... they didn't get to have it because at that stage we did have a full list. But with Parker now on the veterans list we have another space.

Would freo have taken Duffield, Surjan or Johnson if they had another pick on draft day?

All I'm saying is that they have that chance now.

As far as nominations go you'd be crazy not to nominate for all that you can so you'd be thinking if eligible all those guys would have nominated.

 

[ImperialPurple]

You would have to think that the reason Parker was moved onto the veterans list was that the club has their eye on someone for the PSD, otherwise why put him there?
So the assumption would be that they will take someone. I think it's more likely to be a young guy than a recycled bloke from somewhere else, IMO.
I'd go Surjan. But given the fact that most of the conjecture prior to the ND was so far off, it's likely that this will be too.

 

[Streaker]

Originally posted by ImperialPurple
You would have to think that the reason Parker was moved onto the veterans list was that the club has their eye on someone for the PSD, otherwise why put him there?

A player who is placed on the Veterans list only has half of his player payment listed on the Total Player Payments. If he was on $100 000 then the dockers would have $50 000 to use on another player. The Dockers may not even use their pick in the PSD if they are close to the limit of their salary cap.

 

[Sera]

Originally posted by West Coast Stre
A player who is placed on the Veterans list only has half of his player payment listed on the Total Player Payments. If he was on $100 000 then the dockers would have $50 000 to use on another player. The Dockers may not even use their pick in the PSD if they are close to the limit of their salary cap.

He was already on the veterans list but was inside the list of 38. Apparently he has been moved outside meaning they free up one position within the 38 (and now have one less position on the rookie/veterans list). I'm guessing there is someone there that they didn't expect to be there and want to get in early.

 

[Freo Shark]

Originally posted by Sera
He was already on the veterans list but was inside the list of 38. Apparently he has been moved outside meaning they free up one position within the 38 (and now have one less position on the rookie/veterans list). I'm guessing there is someone there that they didn't expect to be there and want to get in early.

Phil Read perhaps

 

[Undertaker]

Originally posted by Sera
He was already on the veterans list but was inside the list of 38. Apparently he has been moved outside meaning they free up one position within the 38 (and now have one less position on the rookie/veterans list). I'm guessing there is someone there that they didn't expect to be there and want to get in early.

I agree SERA they obviously a keen to get someone and don't want to risk waiting until the Rookie Draft.

 

[BigCat1]

Guys there was an article here in the local Geelong Addy that said Geelong had narrowed it down to Shane Harvey or Paul Duffield of Sth Freo for our pick in the PSD.

Is Duffield a better prospect that Surjan? Any other details on how he went this year

The article also says that "Duffield is certain to be drafted as a rookie otherwise."

I assume that means by us at pick 5 as he is a monty to be rookied by somebody.

 

[dasler]

Originally posted by BigCat1
Guys there was an article here in the local Geelong Addy that said Geelong had narrowed it down to Shane Harvey or Paul Duffield of Sth Freo for our pick in the PSD.

Is Duffield a better prospect that Surjan? Any other details on how he went this year

The article also says that "Duffield is certain to be drafted as a rookie otherwise."

I assume that means by us at pick 5 as he is a monty to be rookied by somebody.

IMHO no Surjan is a way better prospect and should have been drafted. Don't think Smarty has a high regard for him somewhat however.

Duffield is a very classy back flanker type, won't give you much physically but is very very skilled and a good reader of the ball. had a very good year for his first full season of colts coming acorss from PSA. Definitely an on/off- field leader and a good head on his shoulders. Very mature for an 18 year old.

 

[funky_monk]

Originally posted by dasler
IMHO no Surjan is a way better prospect and should have been drafted. Don't think Smarty has a high regard for him somewhat however.

Why is that dasler? Smart didn't draft Surjan with pick 27 but no other club drafted him with 50-60 odd picks.

Not disputing, just questioning.

 

[BigCat1]

why do you think Duffield is rated so highly on the eastern seaboard then? I've got a mate who works as a video editor at a Melbourne club and they don't rate Surjan at all. Said he basically only played that one good game. Yet Duffield is mentioned over here by jurno's (who talk to clubs) as the stiffest player to miss out. Before the draft I'd never even heard of him. Barely rated a mention in the million phantom drafts.

I've also heard WCE will take him if Geelong pass over him in the PSD. Just wanted to know why he is rated so highly. Is he quick? A good contested mark? I hear his skills are sensational and he always seems to create space.

 

[dasler]

Originally posted by BigCat1
why do you think Duffield is rated so highly on the eastern seaboard then? I've got a mate who works as a video editor at a Melbourne club and they don't rate Surjan at all. Said he basically only played that one good game. Yet Duffield is mentioned over here by jurno's (who talk to clubs) as the stiffest player to miss out. Before the draft I'd never even heard of him. Barely rated a mention in the million phantom drafts.

I've also heard WCE will take him if Geelong pass over him in the PSD. Just wanted to know why he is rated so highly. Is he quick? A good contested mark? I hear his skills are sensational and he always seems to create space.

I have it on good authority that Surjan was overlooked becase he didn't play to well in games 2 or 3 of the national carnival however was in the best for game 1. If the RM's did their homework they would have realised he tore a calf muscle in game 1 and shouldn't have played in games 2 or 3. Funny that he was the 1st colt to get a league game and probably the best performed at that level arguably. If you watch him play you will realise why I rate him so highly. Try getting a tape of the WP v SF game in round 8 of the colts this year I think it was.

Duffield has always been rated highly by fact that he is poised and a great distributor of the footy on the park. Always hits the targets and the kind of guy a girl would be happy to bring home to the parents. Real quality kid and IMO was stiff to not get taken either.

 

[LongBombFromOutside50]

I don't think we would have freed one more spot on our list if there wasn't a reason, meaning there is obviously someone who slipped through the ranks that Smart rates highly.

I know he rates Duffield and Johnson relatively highly, however, presuming Geelong take Shane Harvey as expected, I think he may opt for Duffield. Surjan would also be nice addition and he will most likely be gone by our first rookie pick, meaning we ultimately have to make a decision between Surjan or Duffield.

 

[dasler]

Originally posted by |D_J^B_J|
I don't think we would have freed one more spot on our list if there wasn't a reason, meaning there is obviously someone who slipped through the ranks that Smart rates highly.

I know he rates Duffield and Johnson relatively highly, however, presuming Geelong take Shane Harvey as expected, I think he may opt for Duffield. Surjan would also be nice addition and he will most likely be gone by our first rookie pick, meaning we ultimately have to make a decision between Surjan or Duffield.

I'd be looking along the lines as Duffield for the PSD pick possibly.

 

[Undertaker]

I would be happy if Freo took Surjan or Duffield in the PSD as I believe that neither will be there for Freo's first Rookie pick.
OR
Is it at all possible that Freo might be looking at someone who is to young for the Rookie Draft like Burgess ???
AND
Does anyone think that Brandon Franz will get picked up as a Rookie ? I think he he would be a good Freo Rookie pick to replace Mott.