A Section Premier A 2026

[man in outer]

Hello all

It has taken me almost a week to write a post about my beloved lions and the fact that for the first time since John Howard was Prime Minister that Collegians will be playing in B grade in 2026.

At the end of the day, we can't blame SKOB for resting players, for our own shortcomings. This year as mentioned above, we have lost far too many games, in particular at home. A series of narrow losses has sent us down to B grade, that's on us.

We've had a fair bit of player turnover since the flag in 2023, and our captain Sam Hibbins, who will go down as a club legend hung up the boots last week alongside Corey Cassidy, another lions stalwart who gave his all in each and every game he played for the club. Both these lads have also played Big V footy as well over their careers.

We have blooded a few youngsters who have shown a bit, but our depth this year was severely tested far too often. We just didn't have the necessary cattle to keep us up in A grade this year unfortunately.

Not to fear, the last time the club found itself in B grade, back in 2006, we regrouped very well and happened to win the flag that year, with many young blokes who played in that B grade flag going on and then winning flags in A grade in 2011 and 2012 with the club. Saying all of that, I'm sure the players, coaches and club know that it won't just happen like that, it will take effort and hard work.

This period in A grade (2007 - 2025) matches our stint in A grade from 1981 - 1998 in achieving three flags for the club in 2011, 2012 and 2023. However, much like our 81-98 stint, which resulted in four losing grand finals, we have been on the end of a few grand final defeats over the last 18 years, losing four grand finals, with the two against SKOB in 2017 and 2018 by less than a kick. That is footy though, if you can't accept defeat, there's no point in playing in the first place.

Here's some other statistics for you all, over this period (2007 - 2025), Collegians has played in 11 finals series as well. When you consider the fact the club's main source of players is Wesley College, a co-ed school, with fewer and fewer boys playing footy at the school, this is pretty remarkable achievement.

May what has happened to my club this year be a great reminder that A grade footy is not for the faint hearted. It is serious footy and depending on performances week to to week and year on year, you can find yourself paddling very quickly at the wrong end of the ladder. Even Old Xavs have found themselves in such positions as stages over the last 10 years.

As for my lions, we will be back.

That sort of sensible, informed and reasonable commentary has no place on this forum!!! But seriously no one can doubt the great run Collegians, good luck next year Mike. Very very short odds to return in 2027.

 

[XXXXAFL]

That sort of sensible, informed and reasonable commentary has no place on this forum!!! But seriously no one can doubt the great run Collegians, good luck next year Mike. Very very short odds to return in 2027.

Not short odds at all.
Mike O has correctly identified a lack of depth as the problem.
More great players retiring.
Reserves also finished 9th just ahead of perennially poor Haileybury.
Thirds in fourth division and U19 in second last division behind all Premier B Clubs and some of their second U19 teams.

I know the Club insiders will be well aware of all this but a big injection of numbers and quality required in off season just to compete.
Might I suggest some XXXXAFL Talent.

 

[Jimmyjack]

Not short odds at all.
Mike O has correctly identified a lack of depth as the problem.
More great players retiring.
Reserves also finished 9th just ahead of perennially poor Haileybury.
Thirds in fourth division and U19 in second last division behind all Premier B Clubs and some of their second U19 teams.

I know the Club insiders will be well aware of all this but a big injection of numbers and quality required in off season just to compete.
Might I suggest some XXXXAFL Talent.

Collegians have had poor depth and weak U19s for decades and it hasn’t stopped them being a perennial contender. Having seen both A and B in recent season the difference in class is enormous. 6 1/2 wins, 5 losess by a kick and a % north of 90. If they roll out anything like the 2025 list they win it with a leg in the air. Would need significant player losses not to go straight back up.

 

[From45SlightAngle]

Could someone explain the pre finals bye ? Teams just had a double bye a few weeks ago.

There really is no reason other than wanting the Premier GF a week later than everyone else for the "spectacle" and that the people that run the organisation are idiots.

The length of the season is outrageous with the number of byes, and having spoken to players about to play in finals they are over it.

Shambolic operations at HQ.

 

[Keano15]

Collegians have had poor depth and weak U19s for decades and it hasn’t stopped them being a perennial contender. Having seen both A and B in recent season the difference in class is enormous. 6 1/2 wins, 5 losess by a kick and a % north of 90. If they roll out anything like the 2025 list they win it with a leg in the air. Would need significant player losses not to go straight back up.

Reckon everyone is spooked by Fitzroy doing the double drop and OM's falling apart. Both clubs had competitive moments in 2024 in A Grade.

But players like Hibbins and Mira (I know he retired some time ago) are once in a generation, not just because of their football ability but what they bring holistically to the group. You just can't replace them.

 

[SMP]

I'm hardly excited. I'm actually far more excited that we don't have to go to the Snakepit next year. Have seen a bit of B grade in recent years and the gap between A and B is enormous. It's just my view but 6 1/2 wins, 5 losses by a kick and % of 95 in A grade suggests you might fare ok in B grade if you retain most of the playing stocks. As you stated perhaps they will fall off a cliff but I reckon they bounce straight back up.

We have a few Collegians posters among us. Would be interested in their thoughts.

The Lions need to beef up depth at the top end re: school grad recruits. Nos ok for the 3rds & U19, while the school link / pathway for higher credentialed ex 1sts lads needs lots of work. The school teams of the last 2 years (NB: recruitment post 2023 Prem A flag) have seen only 3 or 4 young bucks feature for the Lions seniors - 1sts. Numerous 2024 school players are in community local clubs for instance.

The once tight comms / link to entice school grads needs more work.

 

[XXXXAFL]

Collegians have had poor depth and weak U19s for decades and it hasn’t stopped them being a perennial contender. Having seen both A and B in recent season the difference in class is enormous. 6 1/2 wins, 5 losess by a kick and a % north of 90. If they roll out anything like the 2025 list they win it with a leg in the air. Would need significant player losses not to go straight back up.

JimmyJack your De La Soul are better placed to resume a spot in the top flight.

 

[bedford]

Collegians have had poor depth and weak U19s for decades and it hasn’t stopped them being a perennial contender. Having seen both A and B in recent season the difference in class is enormous. 6 1/2 wins, 5 losess by a kick and a % north of 90. If they roll out anything like the 2025 list they win it with a leg in the air. Would need significant player losses not to go straight back up.

DLS coach reappointed

 

[Mike Olotripo]

The Lions need to beef up depth at the top end re: school grad recruits. Nos ok for the 3rds & U19, while the school link / pathway for higher credentialed ex 1sts lads needs lots of work. The school teams of the last 2 years (NB: recruitment post 2023 Prem A flag) have seen only 3 or 4 young bucks feature for the Lions seniors - 1sts. Numerous 2024 school players are in community local clubs for instance.

The once tight comms / link to entice school grads needs more work.

Yes, there are plenty of Wesley College graduates, especially the ones attending the Glen Waverley campus who choose to play at Eastern league clubs, closer to home. We have a fair few old boys scattered across clubs there, but mainly at Blackburn, Mitcham and Surrey Park.

This isn't a new issue, it has been an issue for decades. The problem now, as I discussed with one such player who would travel from Mount Waverley to Albert Park for training around 10 years ago made the comment to me that he would drive past numerous football grounds, most of whom paid players, and even a couple of other clubs in A grade before he got to the Trott. These drives from Mount Waverley or Blackburn to Albert Park through peak hour car park like traffic for a couple of hours a week aren't ideal to most, I get that, but we need to ensure more players are coming through the school to Collegians.

From my own observation, the pipeline of talent at Wesley is far weaker than most other APS schools across the last 5-10 years (excluding the boys who get drafted to AFL clubs).

Half the battle is actually convincing boys that playing at Collegians is fun and about winning, because most of these kids have suffered defeat after defeat in APS footy for many years.

 

[bedford]

Yes, there are plenty of Wesley College graduates, especially the ones attending the Glen Waverley campus who choose to play at Eastern league clubs, closer to home. We have a fair few old boys scattered across clubs there, but mainly at Blackburn, Mitcham and Surrey Park.

This isn't a new issue, it has been an issue for decades. The problem now, as I discussed with one such player who would travel from Mount Waverley to Albert Park for training around 10 years ago made the comment to me that he would drive past numerous football grounds, most of whom paid players, and even a couple of other clubs in A grade before he got to the Trott. These drives from Mount Waverley or Blackburn to Albert Park through peak hour car park like traffic for a couple of hours a week aren't ideal to most, I get that, but we need to ensure more players are coming through the school to Collegians.

From my own observation, the pipeline of talent at Wesley is far weaker than most other APS schools across the last 5-10 years (excluding the boys who get drafted to AFL clubs).

Half the battle is actually convincing boys that playing at Collegians is fun and about winning, because most of these kids have suffered defeat after defeat in APS footy for many years.

And when they get there Park Vics rats charging for parking

 

[Jimmyjack]

JimmyJack your De La Soul are better placed to resume a spot in the top flight.

Have to disagree Mr X. Collegians flogged us both times we met this season. While you never know what the off season might bring, they start as a 10 goal better team than us. The list we had in A grade this year was mid table B grade quality at best. Would need some significant improvement if we are to contend.

 

[Mike Olotripo]

And when they get there Park Vics rats charging for parking

You're spot on there. They always love coming at training time (7pm when all the players are on the track).

 

[bedford]

You're spot on there. They always love coming at training time (7pm when all the players are on the track).

One prick in a little white car .
I actually used to curate the Trott and would get a ticket. They have to pay for about a dozen duds that sit in the office

 

[From45SlightAngle]

tell 'em bedford

 

[flat footy]

Yes, there are plenty of Wesley College graduates, especially the ones attending the Glen Waverley campus who choose to play at Eastern league clubs, closer to home. We have a fair few old boys scattered across clubs there, but mainly at Blackburn, Mitcham and Surrey Park.

This isn't a new issue, it has been an issue for decades. The problem now, as I discussed with one such player who would travel from Mount Waverley to Albert Park for training around 10 years ago made the comment to me that he would drive past numerous football grounds, most of whom paid players, and even a couple of other clubs in A grade before he got to the Trott. These drives from Mount Waverley or Blackburn to Albert Park through peak hour car park like traffic for a couple of hours a week aren't ideal to most, I get that, but we need to ensure more players are coming through the school to Collegians.

From my own observation, the pipeline of talent at Wesley is far weaker than most other APS schools across the last 5-10 years (excluding the boys who get drafted to AFL clubs).

Half the battle is actually convincing boys that playing at Collegians is fun and about winning, because most of these kids have suffered defeat after defeat in APS footy for many years.

I wouldnt count on Hibbins retiring just yet...may be a prem decision. He only played a handful of games because of injury.
It is a long season sitting on the boundary line. Lets wait till pre season? Everything MO said is spot on. The powers that be are aware of it, Mirra is at the school with their footy program and young aspiring players. More scholarships for AFL players than Badminton Im hearing.

 

[God Yeah]

DLS coach reappointed

New reserves coach though, first time appointment if my mail is correct.

 

[Mike Olotripo]

I wouldnt count on Hibbins retiring just yet...may be a prem decision. He only played a handful of games because of injury.
It is a long season sitting on the boundary line. Lets wait till pre season? Everything MO said is spot on. The powers that be are aware of it, Mirra is at the school with their footy program and young aspiring players. More scholarships for AFL players than Badminton Im hearing.

Yes, thankfully David Mirra is coaching the school side and is a terrific leader of young men, but our talent is just not that great compared to our APS rivals.

 

[BailoutSmith]

Finals Footy Preview​

Having watched a fair bit of VAFA over the past couple of years, the 2024 finals series was a treat to watch as a neutral. Looking ahead, 2025 has the potential to be even more compelling.

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2nd Semi​

Old Brighton vs Old Xavs


The two standout teams of 2025 go head-to-head for the first spot in the Grand Final. Minor premiers Old Brighton start as slight favourites, but only just.


Brighton’s home form has been exceptional—18-0 over the past two years—though their away record, 15-5, shows they’re more vulnerable outside the unique quirks of Brighton Beach Oval. Living in the area I have attended many games there, it’s clear how well they know their ground; it often gives them a 4–5 goal advantage.

Old Xavs, meanwhile, have lost just once since May 17—and that was at Brighton Beach. They have a strong claim as the in-form team of the second half of the season.

Selection will be key. On the bigger finals grounds, polished stars tend to rise, and clean, fast ball movement will be critical. OX will feel the absence of Stavrou and Fisher, and the status of Pryor and Hope, who’ve missed recent weeks, is uncertain. Harry Hill was rested last round.

Hope had a strong 2024 finals series, booting three against SKOB in week one and finishing among OB’s best in the Grand Final, despite the team’s disappointing result. With 21 goals this year, he’s slightly down on form in the latter half, but if fit, he could be the difference.

MasIsaac averages nearly three goals a game but has struggled against OB, managing just one goal in his last three encounters with them. OX will need him firing to overcome the absence of a few stars.

Harry Hill should propel OB over the line after his round 18 rest—expect him to be fresh and ready to make a big impact.


Prediction: OB by 10 points

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1st Semi​

Old Scotch vs SKOB


Old Scotch have transformed from relegation contenders to genuine premiership threats in record time. As reigning premiers, they’re peaking at the perfect moment, with key players hitting form just in time. Charlie Cormack, last year’s Grand Final star, was best on ground last week, while Brodie Easton and Henry Brown continue their strong performances. After coming from the clouds, Mark Gnatt and the team would be feeling no pressure going in to this and ready to pounce from 4th again.

Last year’s Grand Final was dominated by Old Scotch’s three talls. Valentine, Tarrant, and Clark combined for 11 of the team’s 14 goals—a masterclass in September forward craft. Will Clark has repeatedly shown he can rise to the occasion, and he’s expected to be a focal point again.

SKOB also boasts quality talls. Kerr regularly takes on two opponents, which frees up Critchley and creates space for Barnett. Last year, Kerr’s big moments in week 1 of finals almost carried the team to victory —SKOB will need him at his best again. Unlike Gnatt, SKOB’s coaching group may feel pressure, having been dominant from 2017–2023 but missing top-two last year, they need to bounce back in 2025. Their depth, though, makes them too talented to fall short, and Jok, Seaton, and Winter will provide ample delivery for the forwards. We will see if resting 13 was the right call, as all SKOB need to do is continue what they did all season and the clear 3rd best team in comp should win easily.

Prediction: SKOB by 36 points
Best on Ground: Jok

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Preliminary Final​

This sets up an exciting prelim: Old Xavs vs SKOB. Expect OX to lean on their bigger brother mentality to overcome SKOB. Recent results may suggest otherwise, but when it matters most, OX has historically held the edge over their Catholic rivals.


Good luck to all teams.

 

[Mr Platinum]

Finals Footy Preview​

Having watched a fair bit of VAFA over the past couple of years, the 2024 finals series was a treat to watch as a neutral. Looking ahead, 2025 has the potential to be even more compelling.

---

2nd Semi​

Old Brighton vs Old Xavs


The two standout teams of 2025 go head-to-head for the first spot in the Grand Final. Minor premiers Old Brighton start as slight favourites, but only just.


Brighton’s home form has been exceptional—18-0 over the past two years—though their away record, 15-5, shows they’re more vulnerable outside the unique quirks of Brighton Beach Oval. Living in the area I have attended many games there, it’s clear how well they know their ground; it often gives them a 4–5 goal advantage.

Old Xavs, meanwhile, have lost just once since May 17—and that was at Brighton Beach. They have a strong claim as the in-form team of the second half of the season.

Selection will be key. On the bigger finals grounds, polished stars tend to rise, and clean, fast ball movement will be critical. OX will feel the absence of Stavrou and Fisher, and the status of Pryor and Hope, who’ve missed recent weeks, is uncertain. Harry Hill was rested last round.

Hope had a strong 2024 finals series, booting three against SKOB in week one and finishing among OB’s best in the Grand Final, despite the team’s disappointing result. With 21 goals this year, he’s slightly down on form in the latter half, but if fit, he could be the difference.

MasIsaac averages nearly three goals a game but has struggled against OB, managing just one goal in his last three encounters with them. OX will need him firing to overcome the absence of a few stars.

Harry Hill should propel OB over the line after his round 18 rest—expect him to be fresh and ready to make a big impact.


Prediction: OB by 10 points

---

1st Semi​

Old Scotch vs SKOB


Old Scotch have transformed from relegation contenders to genuine premiership threats in record time. As reigning premiers, they’re peaking at the perfect moment, with key players hitting form just in time. Charlie Cormack, last year’s Grand Final star, was best on ground last week, while Brodie Easton and Henry Brown continue their strong performances. After coming from the clouds, Mark Gnatt and the team would be feeling no pressure going in to this and ready to pounce from 4th again.

Last year’s Grand Final was dominated by Old Scotch’s three talls. Valentine, Tarrant, and Clark combined for 11 of the team’s 14 goals—a masterclass in September forward craft. Will Clark has repeatedly shown he can rise to the occasion, and he’s expected to be a focal point again.

SKOB also boasts quality talls. Kerr regularly takes on two opponents, which frees up Critchley and creates space for Barnett. Last year, Kerr’s big moments in week 1 of finals almost carried the team to victory —SKOB will need him at his best again. Unlike Gnatt, SKOB’s coaching group may feel pressure, having been dominant from 2017–2023 but missing top-two last year, they need to bounce back in 2025. Their depth, though, makes them too talented to fall short, and Jok, Seaton, and Winter will provide ample delivery for the forwards. We will see if resting 13 was the right call, as all SKOB need to do is continue what they did all season and the clear 3rd best team in comp should win easily.

Prediction: SKOB by 36 points
Best on Ground: Jok

---

Preliminary Final​

This sets up an exciting prelim: Old Xavs vs SKOB. Expect OX to lean on their bigger brother mentality to overcome SKOB. Recent results may suggest otherwise, but when it matters most, OX has historically held the edge over their Catholic rivals.


Good luck to all teams.

Lol, SKOB has beaten OX in 8 of their last 10 games and played in 7 finals series straight with 5 out of the last 6 grand finals with three flags(should be four as UB cheated the points cap but the Ammo’s were gutless).

The last time they played OX in a final was the 2019 Prelim where they dispatched them by 65 points, where OX kicked the last four goals of the game.

What era are you living in saying OX are the big brother?

It may be irrelevant anyway as OS look to be the form team.

 

[Archangel17]

Finals Footy Preview​

Having watched a fair bit of VAFA over the past couple of years, the 2024 finals series was a treat to watch as a neutral. Looking ahead, 2025 has the potential to be even more compelling.

---

2nd Semi​

Old Brighton vs Old Xavs


The two standout teams of 2025 go head-to-head for the first spot in the Grand Final. Minor premiers Old Brighton start as slight favourites, but only just.


Brighton’s home form has been exceptional—18-0 over the past two years—though their away record, 15-5, shows they’re more vulnerable outside the unique quirks of Brighton Beach Oval. Living in the area I have attended many games there, it’s clear how well they know their ground; it often gives them a 4–5 goal advantage.

Old Xavs, meanwhile, have lost just once since May 17—and that was at Brighton Beach. They have a strong claim as the in-form team of the second half of the season.

Selection will be key. On the bigger finals grounds, polished stars tend to rise, and clean, fast ball movement will be critical. OX will feel the absence of Stavrou and Fisher, and the status of Pryor and Hope, who’ve missed recent weeks, is uncertain. Harry Hill was rested last round.

Hope had a strong 2024 finals series, booting three against SKOB in week one and finishing among OB’s best in the Grand Final, despite the team’s disappointing result. With 21 goals this year, he’s slightly down on form in the latter half, but if fit, he could be the difference.

MasIsaac averages nearly three goals a game but has struggled against OB, managing just one goal in his last three encounters with them. OX will need him firing to overcome the absence of a few stars.

Harry Hill should propel OB over the line after his round 18 rest—expect him to be fresh and ready to make a big impact.


Prediction: OB by 10 points

---

1st Semi​

Old Scotch vs SKOB


Old Scotch have transformed from relegation contenders to genuine premiership threats in record time. As reigning premiers, they’re peaking at the perfect moment, with key players hitting form just in time. Charlie Cormack, last year’s Grand Final star, was best on ground last week, while Brodie Easton and Henry Brown continue their strong performances. After coming from the clouds, Mark Gnatt and the team would be feeling no pressure going in to this and ready to pounce from 4th again.

Last year’s Grand Final was dominated by Old Scotch’s three talls. Valentine, Tarrant, and Clark combined for 11 of the team’s 14 goals—a masterclass in September forward craft. Will Clark has repeatedly shown he can rise to the occasion, and he’s expected to be a focal point again.

SKOB also boasts quality talls. Kerr regularly takes on two opponents, which frees up Critchley and creates space for Barnett. Last year, Kerr’s big moments in week 1 of finals almost carried the team to victory —SKOB will need him at his best again. Unlike Gnatt, SKOB’s coaching group may feel pressure, having been dominant from 2017–2023 but missing top-two last year, they need to bounce back in 2025. Their depth, though, makes them too talented to fall short, and Jok, Seaton, and Winter will provide ample delivery for the forwards. We will see if resting 13 was the right call, as all SKOB need to do is continue what they did all season and the clear 3rd best team in comp should win easily.

Prediction: SKOB by 36 points
Best on Ground: Jok

---

Preliminary Final​

This sets up an exciting prelim: Old Xavs vs SKOB. Expect OX to lean on their bigger brother mentality to overcome SKOB. Recent results may suggest otherwise, but when it matters most, OX has historically held the edge over their Catholic rivals.


Good luck to all teams.

Great review with a lot of effort put in but I'm going to disagree with both of your picks. oX to salute for the first and OS in the second

 

[XXXXAFL]

Finals Footy Preview​

Having watched a fair bit of VAFA over the past couple of years, the 2024 finals series was a treat to watch as a neutral. Looking ahead, 2025 has the potential to be even more compelling.

---

2nd Semi​

Old Brighton vs Old Xavs


The two standout teams of 2025 go head-to-head for the first spot in the Grand Final. Minor premiers Old Brighton start as slight favourites, but only just.


Brighton’s home form has been exceptional—18-0 over the past two years—though their away record, 15-5, shows they’re more vulnerable outside the unique quirks of Brighton Beach Oval. Living in the area I have attended many games there, it’s clear how well they know their ground; it often gives them a 4–5 goal advantage.

Old Xavs, meanwhile, have lost just once since May 17—and that was at Brighton Beach. They have a strong claim as the in-form team of the second half of the season.

Selection will be key. On the bigger finals grounds, polished stars tend to rise, and clean, fast ball movement will be critical. OX will feel the absence of Stavrou and Fisher, and the status of Pryor and Hope, who’ve missed recent weeks, is uncertain. Harry Hill was rested last round.

Hope had a strong 2024 finals series, booting three against SKOB in week one and finishing among OB’s best in the Grand Final, despite the team’s disappointing result. With 21 goals this year, he’s slightly down on form in the latter half, but if fit, he could be the difference.

MasIsaac averages nearly three goals a game but has struggled against OB, managing just one goal in his last three encounters with them. OX will need him firing to overcome the absence of a few stars.

Harry Hill should propel OB over the line after his round 18 rest—expect him to be fresh and ready to make a big impact.


Prediction: OB by 10 points

---

1st Semi​

Old Scotch vs SKOB


Old Scotch have transformed from relegation contenders to genuine premiership threats in record time. As reigning premiers, they’re peaking at the perfect moment, with key players hitting form just in time. Charlie Cormack, last year’s Grand Final star, was best on ground last week, while Brodie Easton and Henry Brown continue their strong performances. After coming from the clouds, Mark Gnatt and the team would be feeling no pressure going in to this and ready to pounce from 4th again.

Last year’s Grand Final was dominated by Old Scotch’s three talls. Valentine, Tarrant, and Clark combined for 11 of the team’s 14 goals—a masterclass in September forward craft. Will Clark has repeatedly shown he can rise to the occasion, and he’s expected to be a focal point again.

SKOB also boasts quality talls. Kerr regularly takes on two opponents, which frees up Critchley and creates space for Barnett. Last year, Kerr’s big moments in week 1 of finals almost carried the team to victory —SKOB will need him at his best again. Unlike Gnatt, SKOB’s coaching group may feel pressure, having been dominant from 2017–2023 but missing top-two last year, they need to bounce back in 2025. Their depth, though, makes them too talented to fall short, and Jok, Seaton, and Winter will provide ample delivery for the forwards. We will see if resting 13 was the right call, as all SKOB need to do is continue what they did all season and the clear 3rd best team in comp should win easily.

Prediction: SKOB by 36 points
Best on Ground: Jok

---

Preliminary Final​

This sets up an exciting prelim: Old Xavs vs SKOB. Expect OX to lean on their bigger brother mentality to overcome SKOB. Recent results may suggest otherwise, but when it matters most, OX has historically held the edge over their Catholic rivals.


Good luck to all teams.

This is far superior to the tripe HQ send summarising stats and best players from PlayHQ.
Please keep doing these throughout the finals and slap on them.

P.S. SKOBAFL do not fear XAVWAFL in this generation

Finals Footy Preview​

Having watched a fair bit of VAFA over the past couple of years, the 2024 finals series was a treat to watch as a neutral. Looking ahead, 2025 has the potential to be even more compelling.

---

2nd Semi​

Old Brighton vs Old Xavs


The two standout teams of 2025 go head-to-head for the first spot in the Grand Final. Minor premiers Old Brighton start as slight favourites, but only just.


Brighton’s home form has been exceptional—18-0 over the past two years—though their away record, 15-5, shows they’re more vulnerable outside the unique quirks of Brighton Beach Oval. Living in the area I have attended many games there, it’s clear how well they know their ground; it often gives them a 4–5 goal advantage.

Old Xavs, meanwhile, have lost just once since May 17—and that was at Brighton Beach. They have a strong claim as the in-form team of the second half of the season.

Selection will be key. On the bigger finals grounds, polished stars tend to rise, and clean, fast ball movement will be critical. OX will feel the absence of Stavrou and Fisher, and the status of Pryor and Hope, who’ve missed recent weeks, is uncertain. Harry Hill was rested last round.

Hope had a strong 2024 finals series, booting three against SKOB in week one and finishing among OB’s best in the Grand Final, despite the team’s disappointing result. With 21 goals this year, he’s slightly down on form in the latter half, but if fit, he could be the difference.

MasIsaac averages nearly three goals a game but has struggled against OB, managing just one goal in his last three encounters with them. OX will need him firing to overcome the absence of a few stars.

Harry Hill should propel OB over the line after his round 18 rest—expect him to be fresh and ready to make a big impact.


Prediction: OB by 10 points

---

1st Semi​

Old Scotch vs SKOB


Old Scotch have transformed from relegation contenders to genuine premiership threats in record time. As reigning premiers, they’re peaking at the perfect moment, with key players hitting form just in time. Charlie Cormack, last year’s Grand Final star, was best on ground last week, while Brodie Easton and Henry Brown continue their strong performances. After coming from the clouds, Mark Gnatt and the team would be feeling no pressure going in to this and ready to pounce from 4th again.

Last year’s Grand Final was dominated by Old Scotch’s three talls. Valentine, Tarrant, and Clark combined for 11 of the team’s 14 goals—a masterclass in September forward craft. Will Clark has repeatedly shown he can rise to the occasion, and he’s expected to be a focal point again.

SKOB also boasts quality talls. Kerr regularly takes on two opponents, which frees up Critchley and creates space for Barnett. Last year, Kerr’s big moments in week 1 of finals almost carried the team to victory —SKOB will need him at his best again. Unlike Gnatt, SKOB’s coaching group may feel pressure, having been dominant from 2017–2023 but missing top-two last year, they need to bounce back in 2025. Their depth, though, makes them too talented to fall short, and Jok, Seaton, and Winter will provide ample delivery for the forwards. We will see if resting 13 was the right call, as all SKOB need to do is continue what they did all season and the clear 3rd best team in comp should win easily.

Prediction: SKOB by 36 points
Best on Ground: Jok

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Preliminary Final​

This sets up an exciting prelim: Old Xavs vs SKOB. Expect OX to lean on their bigger brother mentality to overcome SKOB. Recent results may suggest otherwise, but when it matters most, OX has historically held the edge over their Catholic rivals.


Good luck to all teams.

Great work BaileySmith!

This summation is far superior to the tripe trotted out on HQ. Regurgitating Stats and the best Players from PlayHQ is the worst kind of desk top research.

Please keep this coming throughout the finals series of this endless season.

P.S SKOBAFL do not fear XAVSWAFL in this generation if they can progress through to week two as you predicted

 

[BailoutSmith]

Lol, SKOB has beaten OX in 8 of their last 10 games and played in 7 finals series straight with 5 out of the last 6 grand finals with three flags(should be four as UB cheated the points cap but the Ammo’s were gutless).

The last time they played OX in a final was the 2019 Prelim where they dispatched them by 65 points, where OX kicked the last four goals of the game.

What era are you living in saying OX are the big brother?

It may be irrelevant anyway as OS look to be the form team.

I shouldn't have gone fishing to end that post, apologies Briza.

Thank you for putting in the effort and research to support my statement recent results certainly do go SKOBs way.

SKOB have had a brilliant culture since returning to A-grade, coaches / admin demanded the best, didn't settle for just making finals. The whole club is extremely impressive right now, recruitment pools, player depth, Saints side, administration base and support. Not missing top 2 for 7 years is a result of all that hard work and dedication. Was 2024 just a down year or will 2025 show they have gone backwards in the last 3 years?

I still think that list has far too much firepower to not be in final 3, there have been a clear 3 best sides all year. SKOB simple need to bring what they have all year and they should be making it to next week.

 

[BailoutSmith]

It may be irrelevant anyway as OS look to be the form team.

Interesting take, sounds like a PR machine making excuses. They are clear daylight 4th best team in finals and 4th best team on form. I could easily make a case for the other three being best form team, however hard to go past 6-0 Brighton since the long break. Include the week before byes and I think its SKOB, OX,OB...its that close between the 3. No excuses for any of them dropping a game to Scotch now (bar maybe injuries, losing your top 2 players hurts for example).

Since Bye:
OB 6-0 (Including wins over Xavs and Scotch)

OX 5-1 (one loss at Brighton Beach Oval, won the 6 before this window too)
SKOB 5-1 (loss was with 13 rested, game before this window beat minor premier)


DAYLIGHT



OS 3-3 (3 wins were against teams not playing finals, game before this window lost to relegation team)

I do agree Scotch have peaked at the right time, finding form to make finals. Will be interesting to see if the Scotch coaches have got them peaking at the right time or if the ploy of resting 13 to break a long unbeaten run was the right tactic.

 

[BailoutSmith]

This is far superior to the tripe HQ send summarising stats and best players from PlayHQ.
Please keep doing these throughout the finals and slap on them.

P.S. SKOBAFL do not fear XAVWAFL in this generation

Great work BaileySmith!

This summation is far superior to the tripe trotted out on HQ. Regurgitating Stats and the best Players from PlayHQ is the worst kind of desk top research.

Please keep this coming throughout the finals series of this endless season.

P.S SKOBAFL do not fear XAVSWAFL in this generation if they can progress through to week two as you predicted

Cheers XXXX.

Looking forward to watching the games.

SKOB v XAVS would be a classic prelim, do hope it happens.

 

[God Yeah]

Finals Footy Preview​

Having watched a fair bit of VAFA over the past couple of years, the 2024 finals series was a treat to watch as a neutral. Looking ahead, 2025 has the potential to be even more compelling.

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2nd Semi​

Old Brighton vs Old Xavs


The two standout teams of 2025 go head-to-head for the first spot in the Grand Final. Minor premiers Old Brighton start as slight favourites, but only just.


Brighton’s home form has been exceptional—18-0 over the past two years—though their away record, 15-5, shows they’re more vulnerable outside the unique quirks of Brighton Beach Oval. Living in the area I have attended many games there, it’s clear how well they know their ground; it often gives them a 4–5 goal advantage.

Old Xavs, meanwhile, have lost just once since May 17—and that was at Brighton Beach. They have a strong claim as the in-form team of the second half of the season.

Selection will be key. On the bigger finals grounds, polished stars tend to rise, and clean, fast ball movement will be critical. OX will feel the absence of Stavrou and Fisher, and the status of Pryor and Hope, who’ve missed recent weeks, is uncertain. Harry Hill was rested last round.

Hope had a strong 2024 finals series, booting three against SKOB in week one and finishing among OB’s best in the Grand Final, despite the team’s disappointing result. With 21 goals this year, he’s slightly down on form in the latter half, but if fit, he could be the difference.

MasIsaac averages nearly three goals a game but has struggled against OB, managing just one goal in his last three encounters with them. OX will need him firing to overcome the absence of a few stars.

Harry Hill should propel OB over the line after his round 18 rest—expect him to be fresh and ready to make a big impact.


Prediction: OB by 10 points

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1st Semi​

Old Scotch vs SKOB


Old Scotch have transformed from relegation contenders to genuine premiership threats in record time. As reigning premiers, they’re peaking at the perfect moment, with key players hitting form just in time. Charlie Cormack, last year’s Grand Final star, was best on ground last week, while Brodie Easton and Henry Brown continue their strong performances. After coming from the clouds, Mark Gnatt and the team would be feeling no pressure going in to this and ready to pounce from 4th again.

Last year’s Grand Final was dominated by Old Scotch’s three talls. Valentine, Tarrant, and Clark combined for 11 of the team’s 14 goals—a masterclass in September forward craft. Will Clark has repeatedly shown he can rise to the occasion, and he’s expected to be a focal point again.

SKOB also boasts quality talls. Kerr regularly takes on two opponents, which frees up Critchley and creates space for Barnett. Last year, Kerr’s big moments in week 1 of finals almost carried the team to victory —SKOB will need him at his best again. Unlike Gnatt, SKOB’s coaching group may feel pressure, having been dominant from 2017–2023 but missing top-two last year, they need to bounce back in 2025. Their depth, though, makes them too talented to fall short, and Jok, Seaton, and Winter will provide ample delivery for the forwards. We will see if resting 13 was the right call, as all SKOB need to do is continue what they did all season and the clear 3rd best team in comp should win easily.

Prediction: SKOB by 36 points
Best on Ground: Jok

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Preliminary Final​

This sets up an exciting prelim: Old Xavs vs SKOB. Expect OX to lean on their bigger brother mentality to overcome SKOB. Recent results may suggest otherwise, but when it matters most, OX has historically held the edge over their Catholic rivals.


Good luck to all teams.

Nice to see some effort and research going into this post.

A far cry from the scribes in the record or even the ill fated Heath Ledger!