Preview R3: Changes vs. Geelong Cats

[SellarStardom]

You could just as easily do the same with Keays.

But he's unlikely to be replaced by a 197cm forward.

With Keays you could easily replace him with Maley when we have Rachelle, Rankine, Oedlar, Soligo and ANB all running around the forward half

 

[Samcro24]

As Butts was the only one to get coaches votes perhaps we should try him in the midfield.

 

[Cromulant]

He’s kicked 4 goals to start the season with shit ball movement, he’s also not our go to forward, it’s TT and Tex. No chance he gets dropped and it’s a dumb suggestion.

If you dont think he should be under some pressure then thats not very bright either.

The whole "hes not out go to forward" is just lazy. Watch Hawthorn and how they work their 3 talls, theyre always moving and theyve always got one high up the field hitting up at the short kick. So too Brisbane.

There was a lot of vision of Fog on Friday leading back toward goal expecting blokes to kick the ball 80m over his head.

Yeah he's kicked 4 goals but 3 of the 4 were gifts.

 

[Cromulant]

Personally I would lean in to leaving Soligo out to find fitness, second options would be Pedlar or Keays.

I for one wouldn't want to see Pedlar out. His bash through 2 tackles and dish off to Tex is the argument to why we should be giving him bursts through the centre not dropping him.

I would give Fog a burst through the centre early in games to get his hands on it similar to Thilthorpe too.

Fog with a burst in the centre ??

Cmon, this has never and will never be a thing. The guy looks unfit enough as it is.

 

[Velvet George]

If you dont think he should be under some pressure then thats not very bright either.

The whole "hes not out go to forward" is just lazy. Watch Hawthorn and how they work their 3 talls, theyre always moving and theyve always got one high up the field hitting up at the short kick. So too Brisbane.

There was a lot of vision of Fog on Friday leading back toward goal expecting blokes to kick the ball 80m over his head.

Yeah he's kicked 4 goals but 3 of the 4 were gifts.

3 of 4 were gifts? Cmon that’s nonsense as is the suggestion a key forward averaging 2 goals a game is under threat of being dropped.

 

[Cromulant]

3 of 4 were gifts? Cmon that’s nonsense as is the suggestion a key forward averaging 2 goals a game is under threat of being dropped.

Hes surviving on his ridiculous conversion rate, not on his good form.

Im not suggesting we drop him but he looks unfit, he looks lazy and id be interested to see how he goes without Tex in the side seen as thats apparently why we havent seen the best of him.

 

[Velvet George]

Hes surviving on his ridiculous conversion rate, not on his good form.

Im not suggesting we drop him but he looks unfit, he looks lazy and id be interested to see how he goes without Tex in the side seen as thats apparently why we havent seen the best of him.

7 score involvements as well ….

 

[Cromulant]

7 score involvements as well ….

Less than Jake Soligo then.

Fogarty has had 6 shots on goal, theres most of his score involvements.

 

[Slim258]

I answered this elsewhere but briefly, Laird out. Cumming to half back.
Nank to Cummings wing
Ah Chee out. Marsh to add dynamic alternative.
Soligo out. Edwards in to help Berry provide some speed with muscle in the guts.

But... I see we're debuting Finbarr so there goes my theory. I guess we'll just rely on getting an outrageous amount of contested marks.

This will be close but Bond will come in for Laird as I am guessing he has recovered from his illness.
I think Jones will hold his spot for Ah Chee, given he had 22 at 73%.
Finbar comes in for Tex, due for a rest, leaving us with 1 spot, hoping they give it to Marsh

Bond - Butts - Michallaney
Worrell - Murray - Milera
Cumming - Dawson - Cook
Keays - Thilthorpe - ANB
Rachele - Fogarty - Maley
McAndrew - Rankine - Berry
Peatling - Jones - Pedlar - Soligo - Marsh*

 

[Cromulant]

This will be close but Bond will come in for Laird as I am guessing he has recovered from his illness.
I think Jones will hold his spot for Ah Chee, given he had 22 at 73%.
Finbar comes in for Tex, due for a rest, leaving us with 1 spot, hoping they give it to Marsh

Bond - Butts - Michallaney
Worrell - Murray - Milera
Cumming - Dawson - Cook
Keays - Thilthorpe - ANB
Rachele - Fogarty - Maley
McAndrew - Rankine - Berry
Peatling - Jones - Pedlar - Soligo - Marsh*

Tex only misses if he's injured, he doesnt need a rest after 2 games.

 

[Southerntakeover]

So what do you make of Ben Keays form? Only kicked goals in 4 of his last 8 matches, and only six in total.

That's after kicking 32 goals in his first 19 games of 2025

Thilthorpe has only kicked five this season.

 

[Cromulant]

So what do you make of Ben Keays form? Only kicked goals in 4 of his last 8 matches, and only six in total.

That's after kicking 32 goals in his first 19 games of 2025

Form hasnt been great, finals series was awful (not alone there).

Still not the worst of our front 6 but you'd want a bit more from him.

 

[Velvet George]

Less than Jake Soligo then.

Fogarty has had 6 shots on goal, theres most of his score involvements.

lol, 7 last game, which was more than Soligo

 

[Cromulant]

lol, 7 last game, which was more than Soligo

1 more.

One more than a bloke you want dropped.

Hmmm doesn't seem to make sense does it.

 

[Southerntakeover]

People who defend a coach who designed a game plan designed to starve forwards, then complaining that forwards aren't putting up numbers is premium bigfooty

 

[Velvet George]

1 more.

One more than a bloke you want dropped.

Hmmm doesn't seem to make sense does it.

lol, 2 more, but that’s not the point. You got it wrong, just accept that than dig the hole further.

Ones a mid, ones a forward, different roles. Fog had one less possession than Soligo, 7 across 2 games, hmmm doesn’t seem to make sense does it.

 

[Ian Dunross]

Luckily decisions aren’t being made on 2 games with at least 21 to go on a 36 year old. He started off better last year and struggled in lots of game.

Who said they were?

All players struggle in some games.

This school of thought that the Crows would be better off without Walker is crazy though. Until he falls off a cliff - which is clearly hasn't - he's still one of your best players, as evidenced by his ability to influence games of footy consistently.

 

[Cromulant]

lol, 2 more, but that’s not the point. You got it wrong, just accept that than dig the hole further.

Ones a mid, ones a forward, different roles. Fog had one less possession than Soligo, hmmm doesn’t seem to make sense does it.

Yep happy to put my hand up there.

So youre happy with how Fog is going ??

And no I'm not happy with Soligo at the moment and ive mentioned that numerous times. But I dont see why Fog gets a free pass for being very ordinary.

 

[Vader]

Yep happy to put my hand up there.

So youre happy with how Fog is going ??

And no I'm not happy with Soligo at the moment and ive mentioned that numerous times. But I dont see why Fog gets a free pass for being very ordinary.

You're making many of the same arguments that I've been making for the last 5-6 years, resulting in me being labelled as a Fog hater. In reality, I'm just disappointed that a player with Fog's talent is failing to live up to his potential. I certainly don't hate him, and wish he could achieve everything he is capable of achieving.

 

[Cromulant]

You're making many of the same arguments that I've been making for the last 5-6 years, resulting in me being labelled as a Fog hater. In reality, I'm just disappointed that a player with Fog's talent is failing to live up to his potential. I certainly don't hate him, and wish he could achieve everything he is capable of achieving.

I just dont think he's in great form at the moment, not that its a long term issue.

He's been a very good footballer for us for a while, but hes been largely anonymous in 2 games so far.

 

[kirky]

And Geelong coming off the bye.

Well you have to give those old codgers a good rest.

 

[Cromulant]

I see Matty Wright was very pleased with Charlie's game.

Now is the perfect time to get him in the side

 

[Velvet George]

Yep happy to put my hand up there.

So youre happy with how Fog is going ??

And no I'm not happy with Soligo at the moment and ive mentioned that numerous times. But I dont see why Fog gets a free pass for being very ordinary.

A forward averaging 2 goals and 6 score involvements a game is not going very ordinary nor largely anonymous. That equates to 46 goals a year, you’d take that every day of the week.

Now it’s clear you’re trying to frame an argument to suit your opinion, you compared him to Soligo, a midfielder. You said he was gifted goals, that’s just crap. You said he scored his goals because of good conversion, well hello, don’t you want your forwards kicking accurately? Time and time again Fog has stood up at key moments in his career and kicked clutch goals, just like he did against Collingwood.

Would I like his input to be higher? Sure, but he’s not close to being dropped and I’m happy with his performances given how diabolical our gameplan is and how it doesn’t help our forwards.

 

[kirky]

Can we all be happy campers?

I’m just happy Laird is out.

 

[kirky]

Shhhh! Fog's girlfriend, STO, gets all huffy if you suggest that her boyfriend is anything other than a perfect Demi-God Footballer. Any suggestion that Fog is in any way flawed brings her storming in, with a force 10 temper tantrum.

PS - You're making many of the same arguments that I've been making for the last 5-6 years, resulting in me being labelled as a Fog hater. In reality, I'm just disappointed that a player with Fog's talent is failing to live up to his potential. I certainly don't hate him, and wish he could achieve everything he is capable of achieving.

Fog’s greatest failure is he always wants to wrestle.

Reckon he matured earlier as a youngster and was able to wrestle his opponents quite easily and he still carries that trait today. He also looks to be carrying a bit of extra weight as well but I do acknowledge he has tree trunks for legs.

Would I drop him if he kicks 2 goals a week? Hell no. Do I want him to get more involved? Yes.

Now I could well be wrong.