Play Nice Random Chat Thread VI

[Val Keating]

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Came across this today. I won't hold my breath for the Herald Sun and Sky's Canadian exposé.

Does the Union Jack represent crown land? Like as in National parks etc..

 

[Themanbun]

Does the Union Jack represent crown land? Like as in National parks etc..

Doubt it. Numbers would be a lot higher if that were the case. My understanding (not a land or property specialist so take it with a grain of salt) is that 'Crown Land' is vested in the relevant State governments, not the UK.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Does the Union Jack represent crown land? Like as in National parks etc..

It will be corporate investments, particularly lands for mining and such. Chinese investment would be similar.

Never mind, we’re talking specifically Agricultural land.

 

[Themanbun]

It will be corporate investments, particularly lands for mining and such.

Does mining count as Ag land though? This report I believe was specifically about agricultural land and water assets. Stumbled upon it in another article from the NSW farmers union complaining that the Canadians are outbidding local agricultural buy-ups.

 

[Del191229]

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Came across this today. I won't hold my breath for the Herald Sun and Sky's Canadian exposé.

Wonder what the Canadian link is?

Ontario Teacher's Pension Fund maybe?

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Does mining count as Ag land though? This report I believe was specifically about agricultural land and water assets. Stumbled upon it in another article from the NSW farmers union complaining that the Canadians are outbidding local agricultural buy-ups.

Yep, you’re right, didn’t see the AG part on my phone.

Probably a different report:

Page not found | Australian Taxation Office

www.ato.gov.au

Key findings of the report show foreign ownership of Australian agricultural land at 13.8%, compared to 13.4% last year. The majority continues to be in the form of leasehold interests.

 

[Val Keating]

It will be corporate investments, particularly lands for mining and such. Chinese investment would be similar.

Never mind, we’re talking specifically Agricultural land.

Where does Australia sit on that scale? I’ve always heard that most of it is owned by foreign companies but I hear a lot of shit talk around the lunch table.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Where does Australia sit on that scale? I’ve always heard that most of it is owned by foreign companies but I hear a lot of sh*t talk around the lunch table.

Agricultural land in 2020?

Key findings of the report show foreign ownership of Australian agricultural land at 13.8%, compared to 13.4% last year. The majority continues to be in the form of leasehold interests.


Total investment?

Foreign economies had a total of $4.0 trillion invested in Australia at the end of 2020.

Which economies invest in Australia?
The United States and United Kingdom are the biggest investors in Australia, followed by Belgium, Japan and Hong Kong (SAR of China).

China is our ninth largest foreign investor, with 2.0 per cent of the total. However, the levels of Hong Kong (SAR of China) and Chinese investment in Australia have grown significantly over the past decade.


The site has the full table and key stats.

Statistics on who invests in Australia

Statistics on who invests in Australia. Foreign economies had a total of $3.8 trillion invested in Australia at the end of 2019.

www.dfat.gov.au

 

[Themanbun]

Where does Australia sit on that scale? I’ve always heard that most of it is owned by foreign companies but I hear a lot of sh*t talk around the lunch table.

The article I drew it from made a point that most purchase activity is still local

 

[Del191229]

You can’t hide from the numbers: Australian women earn less than men in any job | Greg Jericho

Industries that employ a higher proportion of women have a lower median income

www.theguardian.com

 

[Merlin007]

You can’t hide from the numbers: Australian women earn less than men in any job | Greg Jericho

Industries that employ a higher proportion of women have a lower median income

www.theguardian.com

sadly nothing new in that; various econometric studies over the years have shown that women holding the same qualifications and years of experience earn less than men, which is why structural interventions are required (stronger equal pay laws etc)

 

[Del191229]

sadly nothing new in that; various econometric studies over the years have shown that women holding the same qualifications and years of experience earn less than men, which is why structural interventions are required (stronger equal pay laws etc)

Yep, is sad that it needs to be repeated and repeated.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

sadly nothing new in that; various econometric studies over the years have shown that women holding the same qualifications and years of experience earn less than men, which is why structural interventions are required (stronger equal pay laws etc)

Most studies found that, on average, men worked longer weekly hours, are more willing to give up their free time for promotions (women generally prefer a healthier balance), work in more dangerous industries (higher paying) and more aggressive in seeking promotions. They also found women generally choose to pursue lower paying jobs as they provide higher lifestyle, time off, holiday time, family time, and maternity leave flexibility. Higher paying long hour jobs just don’t provide that same flexibility and demand major family sacrifices across long periods.

Equal pay laws have long been in effect and you cannot manufacture perfect outcomes, especially when it is rooted in individual choice. The biggest structural improvement you can make is improvements to paid maternity leave and short/long term leave. Other improvements should also include greater industry pay for nurses and teachers, which are industries with strong female majorities.

 

[rickety]

Yep, is sad that it needs to be repeated and repeated.

Or to reiterate, which is really just to rerepeat

 

[Snake_Baker]

Most studies found that, on average, men worked longer weekly hours, are more willing to give up their free time for promotions (women generally prefer a healthier balance), work in more dangerous industries (higher paying) and more aggressive in seeking promotions. They also found women generally choose to pursue lower paying jobs as they provide higher lifestyle, time off and maternity leave flexibility. Higher paying long hour jobs just don’t provide that flexibility and demand major family sacrifices.

This is just the tip of the iceberg.

There's a whole heap of other traits that apply to the majority of both sexes (and there are also outliers).

Nature doesn't give a flying **** about the touchy feely politics of any given moment.

 

[rickety]

Most studies found that, on average, men worked longer weekly hours, are more willing to give up their free time for promotions (women generally prefer a healthier balance), work in more dangerous industries (higher paying) and more aggressive in seeking promotions. They also found women generally choose to pursue lower paying jobs as they provide higher lifestyle, time off and maternity leave flexibility. Higher paying long hour jobs just don’t provide that flexibility and demand major family sacrifices.

Equal pay laws have long been in effect and you cannot manufacture perfect outcomes, especially when it is rooted in individual choice. The biggest structural improvement you can make is improvements to paid maternity leave and short/long term leave.

So if you identify as gender neutral, are you somewhere in the middle?

 

[Snake_Baker]

So if you identify as gender neutral, are you somewhere in the middle?

No, you classify as a moron.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

So if you identify as gender neutral, are you somewhere in the middle?

I identify as a fat lazy bludger with too much time on his hands.

 

[Del191229]

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

This is just the tip of the iceberg.

There's a whole heap of other traits that apply to the majority of both sexes (and there are also outliers).

Nature doesn't give a flying **** about the touchy feely politics of any given moment.

I was trying to be as respectful as possible.

 

[Snake_Baker]

I was trying to be as respectful as possible.

Mollycoddling them won't make them grow up mate.

 

[Del191229]

Most studies found that, on average, men worked longer weekly hours, are more willing to give up their free time for promotions (women generally prefer a healthier balance), work in more dangerous industries (higher paying) and more aggressive in seeking promotions. They also found women generally choose to pursue lower paying jobs as they provide higher lifestyle, time off, holiday time, family time, and maternity leave flexibility. Higher paying long hour jobs just don’t provide that same flexibility and demand major family sacrifices across long periods.

Equal pay laws have long been in effect and you cannot manufacture perfect outcomes, especially when it is rooted in individual choice. The biggest structural improvement you can make is improvements to paid maternity leave and short/long term leave. Other improvements should also include greater industry pay for nurses and teachers, which are industries with strong female majorities.

None of this has anything to do with what I linked to.

 

[Del191229]

I was trying to be as respectful as possible.

Nah man, you were just trying to avoid the subject.

 

[rickety]

No, you classify as a moron.

Yeah I agree, but, you know, you go to start a new job, fill in the application form, tick the box which says neither M or F ..... form goes off to the paymaster who scratches their head and bursts into a rendition of "Things that make you go Hmmm". Somebody somewhere will have had that very scenario, thrust upon them. Which sounds like something that happens in Canberra.

 

[Del191229]

They also found women generally choose to pursue lower paying jobs as they provide higher lifestyle, time off, holiday time, family time, and maternity leave flexibility. Higher paying long hour jobs just don’t provide that same flexibility and demand major family sacrifices across long periods.

"Because it really doesn’t matter what occupation you look at, women are almost certainly going to earn less than the men doing that same job"