Reducing our Cox size

[twoforjoy]

According to the Neel’s 'thrifty’ genotype hypothesis, traditional populations with a hunter-gatherer lifestyle may have developed a degree of insulin resistance (a precursor of type 2 diabetes) in response to ‘feast or famine’ conditions.

In environments with abundant food and less physical activity, the thrifty genotype can lead to rapid weight gain, obesity and diabetes.


source

http://www.healthinfonet.ecu.edu.au/health-risks/overweight-obesity/reviews/our-review

 

[Optimax]

or its cause he is lazy and fat and often eats the wrong things

If he wanted to lose weight, as an AFL footballer its not that ****en hard

 

[the_champ_2004]

I was going to mention that earlier aswell, but didnt know how people would take it. Alot of these indigenous guys struggle with their weight for some reason?? In recent years i remember Dean Rioli at Essendon was bigger than Dew and Stevens and struggled to move.

Yeah I've been hounded for saying similar things before but the fact is that the indiginous Australian persons body is different to that of any other ancestry line, just as those other lines are different to others. Indiginous Australians are a very young race and their body is not yet adapted to western food. Alcohol is another western cultural problem that they are suceptable. But don't think it's just because of western culture some of these boys are bigger than others, their traditional diets of things such as turtles is highly fattening.

 

[Optimax]

You are making excuses when none are needed

He has said he eats the wrong things, he has said he hasnt worked hard enough before, these are facts the rest are made up excuses

On aboriginals, Brad dick is skinny/rioli (cyril) skinny, Cox fat/rioli dean Fat

White Thomas skinny, dew fat, Barham skinny tom hawkins fat

Dont care what race you are, you eat shit dont work hard enough you will be fat. FACT!

 

[Pie eyed]

They have a lotion for that these days.

God you'd need an ocean of lotion for that...

 

[Grumpy Bum]

You are making excuses when none are needed

He has said he eats the wrong things, he has said he hasnt worked hard enough before, these are facts the rest are made up excuses

On aboriginals, Brad dick is skinny/rioli (cyril) skinny, Cox fat/rioli dean Fat

White Thomas skinny, dew fat, Barham skinny tom hawkins fat

Dont care what race you are, you eat shit dont work hard enough you will be fat. FACT!

simplistic analysis. genetics also plays a big part

 

[Pie eyed]

Yeah I've been hounded for saying similar things before but the fact is that the indiginous Australian persons body is different to that of any other ancestry line, just as those other lines are different to others. Indiginous Australians are a very young race and their body is not yet adapted to western food. Alcohol is another western cultural problem that they are suceptable. But don't think it's just because of western culture some of these boys are bigger than others, their traditional diets of things such as turtles is highly fattening.

Indigenous Australians have a well documented bio-chemical problem with handling sugars, both natural and artificial.
It is the sugars which are physically more harmful than the alcohol which contains them. The alcohol and it's social effects are a different, no less tragic problem though.

Personally I think too many people simply assume that because you are an AFL footballer your diet is strictly maintained by the most highly qualified dietary experts when it is not the case.

Fevola still smokes for God's sake, which I find unbelievable in an elite sport.

While Cox may struggle with his diet, a hereditary tendency to gain weight or just be biologically destined to be heavy it is his lack of application or urgency onfield which is the biggest concern.

Tony Lockett was no light weight but you could never question his endeavour.

 

[NT.Thunder]

Yeah I've been hounded for saying similar things before but the fact is that the indiginous Australian persons body is different to that of any other ancestry line, just as those other lines are different to others. Indiginous Australians are a very young race and their body is not yet adapted to western food. Alcohol is another western cultural problem that they are suceptable. But don't think it's just because of western culture some of these boys are bigger than others, their traditional diets of things such as turtles is highly fattening.

HaHaHaHa.......another comment regarding indiginous Australians posted from behind the wall of his lovely house, neighbourhood, Internet, Text book.

Feel free buddy to leave your bubble and experience the real world up here in NT, THEN make a comment.

I'm guessing Cox has seen the writing on the wall and let's hope this gives him the kick up the ass he needs to play solid football and be a part of the best 22 for the season. I think he has great potential, just has to want to be there now.

 

[Mental Magpie]

My understanding is that "he has been told". If he doesn't pull the finger out this season, he's gone.

 

[shawthing09]

He certainly has some very very obvious and well discussed flaws. He is the most frustraighting player on our list for mine with Wellingham a distant second.

He certainly has some of the poorest defensive intensity far to regularly. Which is made worse by that fact that he is actually a competent defender. Reads the play very well and is willing at times to zone across infront and kill the play.

One of the most talanted evasive players, takes the game on and has great skills.

Unfortunately as has been mentioned his flaws make it hard for him to be reliable in any position at the moment. I really hope he builds a fitness base to play off a wing. He certainly has the potential to be an extremely damaging player.

 

[the_champ_2004]

HaHaHaHa.......another comment regarding indiginous Australians posted from behind the wall of his lovely house, neighbourhood, Internet, Text book.

Feel free buddy to leave your bubble and experience the real world up here in NT, THEN make a comment.

I'm guessing Cox has seen the writing on the wall and let's hope this gives him the kick up the ass he needs to play solid football and be a part of the best 22 for the season. I think he has great potential, just has to want to be there now.

So my research into health and sport sciences and my unit on aboriginal health is wrong is it? I'll tell my lecturer right away and we'll get your thoughts on the matter. What we have been taught is the average person, not every individual so what I'm saying doesn't mean it must apply to everyone, it's just more likely to apply to them. Hell how many other jamaicans run as fast as bolt. There is racism and then there is reverse racism and by ignoring genetic faults that's what you are. I suppose you are so politically correct that you will say females have the same brain size as males.

 

[the_champ_2004]

HaHaHaHa.......another comment regarding indiginous Australians posted from behind the wall of his lovely house, neighbourhood, Internet, Text book.

Feel free buddy to leave your bubble and experience the real world up here in NT, THEN make a comment.

I'm guessing Cox has seen the writing on the wall and let's hope this gives him the kick up the ass he needs to play solid football and be a part of the best 22 for the season. I think he has great potential, just has to want to be there now.

And also why are indiginous Australians given a different category when talked about in health? Why do they have a different and significant less life span to the rest of Australians? And why in the education systems of Australia do indiginous Australians have different learning standards?

 

[Tranquilli37]

LOL at this thread turning into a s*** fight. The question was asked, and tc2004 answered it. Im not too sure what all the bad blood is about, unless i missed something earlier?
It was an educated response, and the guy has obviously done some studying, so it wasnt just a random guess and response.
Btw, good read tc2004.

 

[Unknown Identity]

In summary,

Cox needs to be a little smaller and Dick needs to get a bit thicker...

And they both need to harden up..!

 

[Al Scorcho]

HaHaHaHa.......another comment regarding indiginous Australians posted from behind the wall of his lovely house, neighbourhood, Internet, Text book.

Feel free buddy to leave your bubble and experience the real world up here in NT, THEN make a comment.

I'm guessing Cox has seen the writing on the wall and let's hope this gives him the kick up the ass he needs to play solid football and be a part of the best 22 for the season. I think he has great potential, just has to want to be there now.

not to start an off topic debate, but there are indigenous Australians in Victoria as well you know...

and everyones genetics are different, it's like lactose intolerance or TB resistance. If you are anglo australian you're more likely to have TB resistance and the ability to digest lactose due to mutations which occurred in the population decades or centuries ago. It's akin to celts having red hair. Not saying that's cox's excuse, but if his genotype makes him gain weight more readily (just as dick's, or guy richard's, genotype mean they can't) then he'd need to work twice as hard and perhaps he doesn't have the work ethic.

 

[NT.Thunder]

So my research into health and sport sciences and my unit on aboriginal health is wrong is it? I'll tell my lecturer right away and we'll get your thoughts on the matter. What we have been taught is the average person, not every individual so what I'm saying doesn't mean it must apply to everyone, it's just more likely to apply to them. Hell how many other jamaicans run as fast as bolt. There is racism and then there is reverse racism and by ignoring genetic faults that's what you are. I suppose you are so politically correct that you will say females have the same brain size as males.

And also why are indiginous Australians given a different category when talked about in health? Why do they have a different and significant less life span to the rest of Australians? And why in the education systems of Australia do indiginous Australians have different learning standards?

not to start an off topic debate, but there are indigenous Australians in Victoria as well you know...

Settle petal, i'm talking from my experiences and living amongst the issues that plague Indiginous Australians. I don't disagree with anything you say, it's just we have more then enough people "saying" through text books and studies and not "doing"...Are you from Canberra?

If you like I can ask some questions and get you a year or 2 out in a Indiginous community to complete your studies, maybe Port Keats, Lajamanu, Maningrida or Kalkarindji.

Look I have nothing but total respect for your studies and the years and years of research and living in your tight knit communities, worshipping your lecturers, exams, heart aches and the likes, I mean, who else will drive our cabs or deliver my pizzas after 6 years of studies

Al Scorcho come to the NT and you'll see the comparrison, don't believe everything that The Age or HUN print!

You'll find that I am a long way from being politically correct , but we won't go there. You have your views I have mine, my apologies for derailling this thread.

Back on topic, I would like to see Cox play a role like Chad Cornes plays for PA. To do this though he really has to put a more defensive role to his game. I love the way he backs himself, doesnt always pay off, but I would rather see a guy have a go then take a backwards step. It was good to see MM at least give him a consistant run in the seniors then drop him back in and out of the VFL team.

Good luck to him.

 

[TradeDraft]

Cox was lucky to stay on the List but What I hear he is going to Arizona Early like Dids and Wood did last year to get an early start.

Good Luck to him but He most likely will be De-Listed at next seasons end

 

[Pie eyed]

Settle petal, i'm talking from my experiences and living amongst the issues that plague Indiginous Australians. I don't disagree with anything you say, it's just we have more then enough people "saying" through text books and studies and not "doing"...Are you from Canberra?

If you like I can ask some questions and get you a year or 2 out in a Indiginous community to complete your studies, maybe Port Keats, Lajamanu, Maningrida or Kalkarindji.

Look I have nothing but total respect for your studies and the years and years of research and living in your tight knit communities, worshipping your lecturers, exams, heart aches and the likes, I mean, who else will drive our cabs or deliver my pizzas after 6 years of studies

Al Scorcho come to the NT and you'll see the comparrison, don't believe everything that The Age or HUN print!

You'll find that I am a long way from being politically correct , but we won't go there. You have your views I have mine, my apologies for derailling this thread.

I'm from Canberra, but grew up with indigenous mates in FNQ. I have lived with, worked with, employed and played footy with them throughout my life.
My sister-in-law was a remote area nurse for 8 years in Kalgoorlie working solo in many remote WA aboriginal communities. She now runs the indigenous medical training facility operated by Bega Garnbaringa cooperative in Kalgoorlie which deals specifically with indigenous health issues and trains indigenous medical students to provide health services for their own people in their own communities. I lived with her and her family there for 2 years and experienced the problems they face.

I have shared the lives of indigenous people, watched them die and watched them thrive in three states. All first hand.

Being from Canberra or not having done a thesis on the subject does not rule one out of the discussion nor does having studied the problem in an academic environment give any "unique" insight into their plight.

Indigenous health is an extremely complex and difficult issue with no quick fixes or easy solution.

That said I think the issue is only in the smallest part pertinent to Cox problems.

 

[NT.Thunder]

Ahhh, Pie Eyed, the Canberra dig was in relation to Politicians!!

Geee, WTF is going on.

And I thank you for sharing your experiences

Anybody else have something to share off topic or even in reagrds to Cox size.

I think Whobegotyou will win the Cox plate, great chance really if he draws a good barrier. Maybe Heart of Dreams, Speed Gifted and So You Think if he gets a run.

 

[Pie eyed]

Ahhh, Pie Eyed, the Canberra dig was in relation to Politicians!!

Geee, WTF is going on.

And I thank you for sharing your experiences

Anybody else have something to share off topic or even in reagrds to Cox size.

I think Whobegotyou will win the Cox plate, great chance really if he draws a good barrier. Maybe Heart of Dreams, Speed Gifted and So You Think if he gets a run.

hahahah.
I wasn't having dig and I hold no great love of Canberra either, technically I live in NSW being 30 meters over the boarder, just pointing out that it's damned easy to assume a viewpoint is driven by some irrelevant detail in a profile, mine or anyone else's, on a forum.

Besides, you started it when you invaded Belgium.

 

[the_champ_2004]

Ahhh, Pie Eyed, the Canberra dig was in relation to Politicians!!

Geee, WTF is going on.

And I thank you for sharing your experiences

Anybody else have something to share off topic or even in reagrds to Cox size.

I think Whobegotyou will win the Cox plate, great chance really if he draws a good barrier. Maybe Heart of Dreams, Speed Gifted and So You Think if he gets a run.

Thought you were having a dig cause like I said I have been hounded before. Speed gifted for mine

 

[mattys123]

Thought you were having a dig cause like I said I have been hounded before. Speed gifted for mine

Oh cmon, Whobe is a moral, unless he runs into trouble, loves the track, and is the absolute class horse in Australia.

I'll back old El Segundo each way for some value, you never know, he might do a Fields of Omagh and win from out of nowhere.

As for Cox, surely going to Arizona early should work, it worked wonders for Ben Johnson's skin folds last year, after he admitted he was "over weight" and unfit the season before, but he went to the U.S. with Licca and a few guys early and was fit for most of the season.

I still can't fit Cox in our best 22 though, just no room if Reid, N.Brown, Jolly, Sidebottom, Beams, MaCaffer and McCarthy have to be considered also.

 

[Pie eyed]

Thought you were having a dig cause like I said I have been hounded before. Speed gifted for mine

Not a lot of cerebral discussion going on across BF of late. Pretty much a lot of belly button gazing threads or the usual out of season "what if" threads.

 

[the_champ_2004]

Oh cmon, Whobe is a moral, unless he runs into trouble, loves the track, and is the absolute class horse in Australia.

I'll back old El Segundo each way for some value, you never know, he might do a Fields of Omagh and win from out of nowhere.

As for Cox, surely going to Arizona early should work, it worked wonders for Ben Johnson's skin folds last year, after he admitted he was "over weight" and unfit the season before, but he went to the U.S. with Licca and a few guys early and was fit for most of the season.

I still can't fit Cox in our best 22 though, just no room if Reid, N.Brown, Jolly, Sidebottom, Beams, MaCaffer and McCarthy have to be considered also.

yeah fair call, you may have swayed me but i think i'm a non conformist at heart and have to go at least a little against the flow.

 

[Snag Breac]

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