Rolling World Cup squad thread

[Snuffaluphagus]

If Khawaja's form is too strong to leave out is there room for Marsh at 5 since I dont Ussie can bat outside the top 3 since he doesnt really have a second gear.

Marsh does have that extra gear but its not as consistent as it used to be.

Unfortunately for Petey the only way he makes the 11 is with an injury or as keeper

My top 7 would be
Warner
Finch
Khawaja
Smith
Marsh
Maxwell or Stoinis
Carey

I do wonder if that team has too many accumulators through the middle order

 

[LukeParkerno1]

One too many accumulators but that’s a good side. Marsh for Maxwell and then either Stoinis or MMarsh as the AR. Need bowling options.

 

[frankrizzo]

Stoinis is a very ordinary odi bowler with less than a wicket per match average of nearly 50 and an economy rate over 6 so if we are picking that 6th batsman because they can bowl mitch marsh is the better choice.

 

[Doodlesweaver]

Stoinis is a very ordinary odi bowler with less than a wicket per match average of nearly 50 and an economy rate over 6 so if we are picking that 6th batsman because they can bowl mitch marsh is the better choice.

That's the weakness with all of our ARs. Depends on the pitch whether any of them do well. Stoinis has always looked like he should be a better bowler than he is. His stats in all formats as a bowler are pretty ordinary.

 

[Cleavy]

That's the weakness with all of our ARs. Depends on the pitch whether any of them do well. Stoinis has always looked like he should be a better bowler than he is. His stats in all formats as a bowler are pretty ordinary.

but he has that X-Factor that Warne loves

 

[King Elvis]

Told you guys Finch would come good.

 

[Damon_3388]

Stoinis is a very ordinary odi bowler with less than a wicket per match average of nearly 50 and an economy rate over 6 so if we are picking that 6th batsman because they can bowl mitch marsh is the better choice.

That's the weakness with all of our ARs. Depends on the pitch whether any of them do well. Stoinis has always looked like he should be a better bowler than he is. His stats in all formats as a bowler are pretty ordinary.

Stoinis' bowling has actually improved a lot this summer. Still as likely to go 0/50 off 8 overs as he is 3/35 though.

Still think James Faulkner deserves consideration for a spot, bowling 1st or 2nd change and batting at #7/#8. And no, he wasn't "trash" in his last ODI appearances. He just wasn't the big hitter with the bat that people made him out to be, because that's not actually who he really is as a batsman, at least not at domestic level. He only got continually cast in that role because of a couple of heroic performances. In fact, he's much more of a bowling all-rounder than anything else.

Faulkner's last 10 ODIs with the ball - 29.75 average, 30.44 strike rate, 5.86 economy rate. Perfectly adequate for a 1st/2nd change paceman in today's ODI cricket.

 

[Westend]

If Khawaja's form is too strong to leave out is there room for Marsh at 5 since I dont Ussie can bat outside the top 3 since he doesnt really have a second gear.

Marsh does have that extra gear but its not as consistent as it used to be.

Unfortunately for Petey the only way he makes the 11 is with an injury or as keeper

My top 7 would be
Warner
Finch
Khawaja
Smith
Marsh
Maxwell or Stoinis
Carey

I do wonder if that team has too many accumulators through the middle order

Umm

If that was the seven I would change it to

Warner
Khawaja
Smith
Marsh
Finch
Maxwell/Stoinis
Carey

Finch has the power to go from ball one....and his ability to hit the spinners in the middle overs...Plus he is away from the new ball where he has had issues of late with the ball angling back in.

JL does like the left/right combo though...that's why I have smith at three with marsh 4 Finch 5

Also Carey worries me with his power hitting...would rather Cummins/starc at seven if we need a quick 20/30 off 3/4 overs at the end

But I think they want finch to open with warner....Finch has showed if he gets in he can be so damaging as an opener

 

[toml]

Told you guys Finch would come good.

Slow UAE pitches and Pakistan's second choice ODI bowling attack, perfect to mask that technical defficiency. Wouldn't get too excited yet.

 

[Kram]

I think the team is shaping up nicely but it would be handy if we had a better 5th bowling options than Stoinis and Maxwell.

 

[eddiesmith]

As Maxy finds some form, it’s interesting to see that Maxy averages 40 in England

Shame Handscomb can’t roll the arm over so they can dump Stoinis

 

[Westend]

Stoinis is in trouble

M Marsh should be considered as a straight swap

The biggest issue for me with stoinis….is his ability to rotate the strike and his strike rate at the beginning of his innings. Its not good enough and he is not improving. It is no coincidence that when he has scored runs we have lost. Batting at 5/6 he should be looking at a strike of 100 but we are not getting that from him atm

We cannot afford him taking his time to get going...in the WC he needs to get a move on. He is putting too much pressure on the guys up the other end

My biggest fear is that with the next two ODIS they will put him up to three and he will make a decent score...,but this will hide the problem as he will be batting 5/6 in the WC

His bowling is average....M Marsh is a better bowler and he is now fit to bowl

Unless Stoinis makes a significant Score at number 5/6 in the next 2 ODIS...we should be seriously considering M marsh as a replacement

 

[Kyptastic]

We must remember that the WC is being played in England....different conditions than the subcontinent

Handscomb is a good player of spin but has questions marks against him against pace/swing

he will be the unlucky one to miss out

England have been using both Moeen Ali and Adil Rashid as core parts of their bowling lineup these past few years and will develop pitches to support that. India will also have two spinners. The ability to play spin in the middle order is going to be a huge part of sides being successful in this World Cup, Handscomb would be perfect for that role.

 

[Westend]

England have been using both Moeen Ali and Adil Rashid as core parts of their bowling lineup these past few years and will develop pitches to support that. India will also have two spinners. The ability to play spin in the middle order is going to be a huge part of sides being successful in this World Cup, Handscomb would be perfect for that role.[/QUOTE]

So would Smith.....plus smith can play pace better than handscomb

If I was an opposition captain and I saw Handscomb striding out to bat....I would bring back my quicks asap and tell them to bowl full

Handscomb still has question marks against the full ball against the pace bowlers

You say that a lot of teams are going to play two spinners.....I agree with that.....that's 20 overs....there are still 30 overs to face pace/medium at the other end …

Smith is a jet against anything....handscomb is not quite there yet

 

[JackOutback]

Reckon Smith and SMarsh have spin covered in the middle innings.

 

[archibald]

Watch S Marsh choke it up when the games mean something.

 

[Westend]

Watch S Marsh choke it up when the games mean something.

Oh like he has the last year as our number odi batsmen after scoring 4 hundreds ave of 56??

 

[Sproj]

It is highly likely to come down to Handscomb v Carey and I'd absolutely go Handscomb without thinking twice. I also wouldn't play Warner, though he'd be in my squad. My XI would be:

1. Finch (c)
2. Khawaja
3. S.Marsh
4. Smith
5. Handscomb (wk)
6. Maxwell
7. M.Marsh
8. Starc
9. Cummins
10. Richardson
11. Hazlewood

12. Warner
13. Stoinis
14. Coulter-Nile
15. Behrendorff

 

[eddiesmith]

If Marsh comes in then Stoinis should miss the squad altogether

Also they are not going to the World Cup without a spinner, Zampa is pretty damn safe

 

[Nel_cats]

It is highly likely to come down to Handscomb v Carey and I'd absolutely go Handscomb without thinking twice. I also wouldn't play Warner, though he'd be in my squad. My XI would be:

1. Finch (c)
2. Khawaja
3. S.Marsh
4. Smith
5. Handscomb (wk)
6. Maxwell
7. M.Marsh
8. Starc
9. Cummins
10. Richardson
11. Hazlewood

12. Warner
13. Stoinis
14. Coulter-Nile
15. Behrendorff

They are definitely not taking 6 quicks

 

[Cainozz]

Would love if Handscomb was more competent behind the stumps with the gloves so we could make room for that extra bat/allrounder. Do you take a part time keeper with the risk of costing byes, dropped catches or do you take a specialist keeper but with a lack of power to be batting where he is at 7?

I like Carey but he's not a finisher. Would rather him come around in at 5 to leave Maxy & Stoinis/M Marsh to power hit in the last 10-15 overs. Saying that, Carey isn't really good enough to be a solid middle order player either.

I'm finding this more of the dilemma than anything.

 

[cricketnut14]

wonder if turner will play the 5th odi now the series is 4-0 / dominate and play a cameo/ confuse the selectors even more.

 

[gordo2016]

Warner in ripping form in the IPL overnight. 69 off 37. Found the gaps with ease, hit a six off the third ball without any effort and ran like a hare between the wickets. Seeing him in this form is a huge boost for Australia's World Cup chances. Must open with Finch.

 

[Walt Kowalski]

Warner
Finch *
Marsh
Smith
Stoinis
Maxwell
Carey +
Starc
Richardson
Cummins
Zampa

Hazelwood
Khawaja
Handscomb
Pattinson

 

[Blue Dimension]

Interesting that Behrendorf was ‘rested’ as soon as we had won the series, along with Cummins.

To me that means he’s in the WC squad. Otherwise why bother dropping him?