Preview Round 15 - Swans v Suns

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Olian

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Round 15
Swans (14th) v Suns (17th)
4:35 pm Saturday
SCG
Weather : 18 Sunny


Straight up this is a danger game.

The corresponding game last year marked the rapid decline in the Swans. Going from a top 4 chance to scraping into the finals and culminated in an abysmal finals performance.

This year Gold Coast have the youngest list (the departure lounge was full at the end of last year) and the team that played last week against the Saints had an averaged age of 23.4 years with 60 games experience. They had 5 players born this century. Compare that to the Swans team that played the Hawks who are a year older and average a 100 games of experience. Only Blakey was born in the 2000’s.

Early season form had the Suns at 3-1 before a 9 game unbroken losing streak. Swans were 1-3 but have gone 4-5 since.

Last year the Suns were averaging 60 points but conceding 100. This year their attack is averaging 62 but only conceding 86 points.

Last year the Swans averaged 82 points and only conceded 74. This year averaging 78 points but conceding 82.

What does all this mean? Suns attack and defence has improved but not enough to grab the 4 points more consistently. Swans have gone backwards although the last two games have been above average performances compared to the rest of the season.

Key contests

1. Ruck

Witts v Sinclair (if he isn’t fit then this will be a bath)
Witts is 3 years younger, 9 cm taller and 15kg heavier. When comparing the two this year they have mirrored each other statistically other than for hitouts (a key stat for a ruck) which Witts averages an extra 18 a game. Sinclair has gone forward more than Witts with a goal every 3 games. Witts tends to drop back in the defensive 50 with a few more rebound 50’s to his name.

Sinclair should nullify Witts around the ground but will probably be beaten in the hitouts.

2. Midfield

Given Witts is the leading the way in hitouts it has helped his midfield stay competitive in games for longer.

It's easier to name all the midfield players that have left the Suns. Harder to name their current midfielders but they do have a lot of young talent running through their midfield. Fiorini and Swallow are their leading possession winners for the year and worth watching.

Swans midfield relies on Parker and Hewett to lead the way. Kennedy came back last week but looked short of gallop. Hopefully Clarke is left to tag himself as his disposals are so poor its now a danger to my television screen if I have to watch him play.

3. Forwards/Defence

Forwards- Suns

King (202 cm) and Wright (203 cm) are the tall targets for the Suns. Wright proved a handful in the preseason (although it’s only JLT it’s something) and will test our defence. King is only in his first season but is already averaging a goal a game from his 5 outings.

Defence- Swans
Rampe (189 cm), Melican (195 cm) and Aliir (194 cm) will give up some height so if the Suns are able to lead out into space they will struggle to defend.

Forwards - Swans
Reid (196 cm) and McCartin/Blakey although not as tall as their Suns counterparts will provide problems for the Suns defence.

Suns - Defence
The Suns defence will rely on Day (197 cm and Hombsch (194 cm). Without Franklin the Suns defenders will thank whatever God they believe in for small mercies. Franklin has scored more career goals than the Suns list that played last week.

However ignore the key forwards and focus on the small forwards in this game. Sexton and Papley are their respective teams leading goal kickers.

4. Coaches
Dew leads 1-0 after last year. Although the results aren't on the board yet, the Suns have been far more competitive this year (except for the Crows and Giants games). The Suns have also managed to have players re-commit to the club long term.

Longmire is a wanted man with the Godfather offer from Norf to come his way. With this hanging over his head the Swans have improved in the last month (to improve his pay day) with the players better executing the game style.

5. Crowd
More people to watch this game than last week. The AFL could draw a conclusion that people enjoy watching football during day light.

6. Ins/outs
Franklin (inj) - McCartin
Sincliar (if fails Concussion test) - Cameron

7. Conclusion
Swans are playing a better brand of football now than earlier in the year. The midfield has too much class and will reverse last years result as complacency shouldn't be an issue and a record a win by 1-39.
 
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Cameron in for his annual game against Gold Coast

Last year was an anomaly. Never seen such poor skills than in that game.

Should win by 5 goals plus.
 

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Round 15
Swans (14th) v Suns (17th)
4:35 pm Saturday
SCG
Weather : 18 Sunny


Straight up this is a danger game.

The corresponding game last year marked the rapid decline in the Swans. Going from a top 4 chance to scraping into the finals and culminated in an abysmal finals performance.

This year Gold Coast have the youngest list (the departure lounge was full at the end of last year) and the team that played last week against the Saints had an averaged age of 23.4 years with 60 games experience. They had 5 players born this century. Compare that to the Swans team that played the Hawks who are a year older and average a 100 games of experience. Only Blakey was born in the 2000’s.

Early season form had the Suns at 3-1 before a 9 game unbroken losing streak. Swans were 1-3 but have gone 4-5 since.

Last year the Suns were averaging 60 points but conceding 100. This year their attack is averaging 62 but only conceding 86 points.

Last year the Swans averaged 82 points and only conceded 74. This year averaging 78 points but conceding 82.

What does all this mean? Suns attack and defence has improved but not enough to grab the 4 points more consistently. Swans have gone backwards although the last two games have been above average performances compared to the rest of the season.

Key contests

1. Ruck

Witts v Sinclair (if he isn’t fit then this will be a bath)
Witts is 3 years younger, 9 cm taller and 15kg heavier. When comparing the two this year they have mirrored each other statistically other than for hitouts (a key stat for a ruck) which Witts averages an extra 18 a game. Sinclair has gone forward more than Witts with a goal every 3 games. Witts tends to drop back in the defensive 50 with a few more rebound 50’s to his name.

Sinclair should nullify Witts around the ground but will probably be beaten in the hitouts.

2. Midfield
Given Witts is the leading the way in hitouts it has helped his midfield stay competitive in games for longer.

It's easier to name all the midfield players that have left the Suns. Harder to name their current midfielders but they do have a lot of young talent running through their midfield. Fiorini and Swallow are their leading possession winners for the year and worth watching.

Swans midfield relies on Parker and Hewett to lead the way. Kennedy came back last week but looked short of gallop. Hopefully Clarke is left to tag himself as his disposals are so poor its now a danger to my television screen if I have to watch him play.

3. Forwards/Defence

Forwards- Suns

King (202 cm) and Wright (203 cm) are the tall targets for the Suns. Wright proved a handful in the preseason (although it’s only JLT it’s something) and will test our defence. King is only in his first season but is already averaging a goal a game from his 5 outings.

Defence- Swans
Rampe (189 cm), Melican (195 cm) and Aliir (194 cm) will give up some height so if the Suns are able to lead out into space they will struggle to defend.

Forwards - Swans
Reid (196 cm) and McCartin/Blakey although not as tall as their Suns counterparts will provide problems for the Suns defence.

Suns - Defence
The Suns defence will rely on Day (197 cm and Hombsch (194 cm). Without Franklin the Suns defenders will thank whatever God they believe in for small mercies. Franklin has scored more career goals than the Suns list that played last week.

However ignore the key forwards and focus on the small forwards in this game. Sexton and Papley are their respective teams leading goal kickers.

4. Coaches
Dew leads 1-0 after last year. Although the results aren't on the board yet, the Suns have been far more competitive this year (except for the Crows and Giants games). The Suns have also managed to have players re-commit to the club long term.

Longmire is a wanted man with the Godfather offer from Norf to come his way. With this hanging over his head the Swans have improved in the last month (to improve his pay day) with the players better executing the game style.

5. Crowd
More people to watch this game than last week. The AFL could draw a conclusion that people enjoy watching football during the game.

6. Ins/outs
Franklin (inj) - McCartin
Sincliar (if fails Concussion test) - Cameron

7. Conclusion
Swans are playing a better brand of football now than earlier in the year. The midfield has too much class and will reverse last years result as complacency shouldn't be an issue and a record a win by 1-39.

Great Preview Olian. Lots of work and terrific analysis. Pretty much agree with you. I reckon the margin will be comfortable tho the Suns will give us difficult moments.
 
Crowd will be less than the Hawks game imo. Can't see too many opposition supporters turning up.
Agree with Olian that a bigger crowd will definitely send a message to the AFL about our preferred crowd drawng timeslots ( even though it means less free to air games on TV)
Am willing to make a personal sacrifice if it helps the club.
 
Round 15
Swans (14th) v Suns (17th)
4:35 pm Saturday
SCG
Weather : 18 Sunny


Straight up this is a danger game.

The corresponding game last year marked the rapid decline in the Swans. Going from a top 4 chance to scraping into the finals and culminated in an abysmal finals performance.

This year Gold Coast have the youngest list (the departure lounge was full at the end of last year) and the team that played last week against the Saints had an averaged age of 23.4 years with 60 games experience. They had 5 players born this century. Compare that to the Swans team that played the Hawks who are a year older and average a 100 games of experience. Only Blakey was born in the 2000’s.

Early season form had the Suns at 3-1 before a 9 game unbroken losing streak. Swans were 1-3 but have gone 4-5 since.

Last year the Suns were averaging 60 points but conceding 100. This year their attack is averaging 62 but only conceding 86 points.

Last year the Swans averaged 82 points and only conceded 74. This year averaging 78 points but conceding 82.

What does all this mean? Suns attack and defence has improved but not enough to grab the 4 points more consistently. Swans have gone backwards although the last two games have been above average performances compared to the rest of the season.

Key contests

1. Ruck

Witts v Sinclair (if he isn’t fit then this will be a bath)
Witts is 3 years younger, 9 cm taller and 15kg heavier. When comparing the two this year they have mirrored each other statistically other than for hitouts (a key stat for a ruck) which Witts averages an extra 18 a game. Sinclair has gone forward more than Witts with a goal every 3 games. Witts tends to drop back in the defensive 50 with a few more rebound 50’s to his name.

Sinclair should nullify Witts around the ground but will probably be beaten in the hitouts.

2. Midfield
Given Witts is the leading the way in hitouts it has helped his midfield stay competitive in games for longer.

It's easier to name all the midfield players that have left the Suns. Harder to name their current midfielders but they do have a lot of young talent running through their midfield. Fiorini and Swallow are their leading possession winners for the year and worth watching.

Swans midfield relies on Parker and Hewett to lead the way. Kennedy came back last week but looked short of gallop. Hopefully Clarke is left to tag himself as his disposals are so poor its now a danger to my television screen if I have to watch him play.

3. Forwards/Defence

Forwards- Suns

King (202 cm) and Wright (203 cm) are the tall targets for the Suns. Wright proved a handful in the preseason (although it’s only JLT it’s something) and will test our defence. King is only in his first season but is already averaging a goal a game from his 5 outings.

Defence- Swans
Rampe (189 cm), Melican (195 cm) and Aliir (194 cm) will give up some height so if the Suns are able to lead out into space they will struggle to defend.

Forwards - Swans
Reid (196 cm) and McCartin/Blakey although not as tall as their Suns counterparts will provide problems for the Suns defence.

Suns - Defence
The Suns defence will rely on Day (197 cm and Hombsch (194 cm). Without Franklin the Suns defenders will thank whatever God they believe in for small mercies. Franklin has scored more career goals than the Suns list that played last week.

However ignore the key forwards and focus on the small forwards in this game. Sexton and Papley are their respective teams leading goal kickers.

4. Coaches
Dew leads 1-0 after last year. Although the results aren't on the board yet, the Suns have been far more competitive this year (except for the Crows and Giants games). The Suns have also managed to have players re-commit to the club long term.

Longmire is a wanted man with the Godfather offer from Norf to come his way. With this hanging over his head the Swans have improved in the last month (to improve his pay day) with the players better executing the game style.

5. Crowd
More people to watch this game than last week. The AFL could draw a conclusion that people enjoy watching football during day light.

6. Ins/outs
Franklin (inj) - McCartin
Sincliar (if fails Concussion test) - Cameron

7. Conclusion
Swans are playing a better brand of football now than earlier in the year. The midfield has too much class and will reverse last years result as complacency shouldn't be an issue and a record a win by 1-39.
Nice work Olian!

Going to have a long lunch before this game, so I'll be in fine form! Hope we thrash them!

I'm looking forward to seeing Blakey and Reid work together... and I'm sure our defence will have too much class for the Suns!

Bloodys by 40+

GO BLOODS!!
 
Should win this in a canter.

Suns have been good though.

I heard the same thing last year when we played GC...if we for one second think this is going to be a cakewalk, we'll lose.
 
Am I right in thinking that if the Swans win 7 out of the remaining 9 games, we are finals bound?

We won't though, after the next couple our draw is significantly tough coming home.
 

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Round 15
Swans (14th) v Suns (17th)
4:35 pm Saturday
SCG
Weather : 18 Sunny


Straight up this is a danger game.

The corresponding game last year marked the rapid decline in the Swans. Going from a top 4 chance to scraping into the finals and culminated in an abysmal finals performance.

This year Gold Coast have the youngest list (the departure lounge was full at the end of last year) and the team that played last week against the Saints had an averaged age of 23.4 years with 60 games experience. They had 5 players born this century. Compare that to the Swans team that played the Hawks who are a year older and average a 100 games of experience. Only Blakey was born in the 2000’s.

Early season form had the Suns at 3-1 before a 9 game unbroken losing streak. Swans were 1-3 but have gone 4-5 since.

Last year the Suns were averaging 60 points but conceding 100. This year their attack is averaging 62 but only conceding 86 points.

Last year the Swans averaged 82 points and only conceded 74. This year averaging 78 points but conceding 82.

What does all this mean? Suns attack and defence has improved but not enough to grab the 4 points more consistently. Swans have gone backwards although the last two games have been above average performances compared to the rest of the season.

Key contests

1. Ruck

Witts v Sinclair (if he isn’t fit then this will be a bath)
Witts is 3 years younger, 9 cm taller and 15kg heavier. When comparing the two this year they have mirrored each other statistically other than for hitouts (a key stat for a ruck) which Witts averages an extra 18 a game. Sinclair has gone forward more than Witts with a goal every 3 games. Witts tends to drop back in the defensive 50 with a few more rebound 50’s to his name.

Sinclair should nullify Witts around the ground but will probably be beaten in the hitouts.

2. Midfield
Given Witts is the leading the way in hitouts it has helped his midfield stay competitive in games for longer.

It's easier to name all the midfield players that have left the Suns. Harder to name their current midfielders but they do have a lot of young talent running through their midfield. Fiorini and Swallow are their leading possession winners for the year and worth watching.

Swans midfield relies on Parker and Hewett to lead the way. Kennedy came back last week but looked short of gallop. Hopefully Clarke is left to tag himself as his disposals are so poor its now a danger to my television screen if I have to watch him play.

3. Forwards/Defence

Forwards- Suns

King (202 cm) and Wright (203 cm) are the tall targets for the Suns. Wright proved a handful in the preseason (although it’s only JLT it’s something) and will test our defence. King is only in his first season but is already averaging a goal a game from his 5 outings.

Defence- Swans
Rampe (189 cm), Melican (195 cm) and Aliir (194 cm) will give up some height so if the Suns are able to lead out into space they will struggle to defend.

Forwards - Swans
Reid (196 cm) and McCartin/Blakey although not as tall as their Suns counterparts will provide problems for the Suns defence.

Suns - Defence
The Suns defence will rely on Day (197 cm and Hombsch (194 cm). Without Franklin the Suns defenders will thank whatever God they believe in for small mercies. Franklin has scored more career goals than the Suns list that played last week.

However ignore the key forwards and focus on the small forwards in this game. Sexton and Papley are their respective teams leading goal kickers.

4. Coaches
Dew leads 1-0 after last year. Although the results aren't on the board yet, the Suns have been far more competitive this year (except for the Crows and Giants games). The Suns have also managed to have players re-commit to the club long term.

Longmire is a wanted man with the Godfather offer from Norf to come his way. With this hanging over his head the Swans have improved in the last month (to improve his pay day) with the players better executing the game style.

5. Crowd
More people to watch this game than last week. The AFL could draw a conclusion that people enjoy watching football during day light.

6. Ins/outs
Franklin (inj) - McCartin
Sincliar (if fails Concussion test) - Cameron

7. Conclusion
Swans are playing a better brand of football now than earlier in the year. The midfield has too much class and will reverse last years result as complacency shouldn't be an issue and a record a win by 1-39.
Thanks Olian for your review.
Given last year's result, not a game to be taken lightly.
Bloods by 35.
#GoBloods
 
Hayward is not notching up 50 games.......... no way.

Now I know what my dad was on about when he said time flies as you get older!!

One problem with the passage of time is the fear of extreme old age attracting flies.
 
Speaking of Hayward and Ollie for that matter, they look so young to me I'd expect both to get excited by Easter Egg Hunts and to be up before dawn on Xmas morning.

I have the feeling the Hayward kiddo is due a big one. I think he'll kick four.
 
This game last year was quite possibly the 2nd most disappointed I've ever been in a Swans team in my time watching (2014 GF will probably never be surpassed). We've lost by bigger margins and lost other games we should have won in more cut-throat situations, but last year against Gold Coast was the epitome of a side not being mentally ready to play and assuming all they had to do was show up to the ground to win.

It was performances like that that had me thinking Longmire had lost his touch with the players. It's also partly why I've given him so much credit for the last 6 weeks because the club is reinvigorated with a new path moving forward which is paying dividends right now.
 
Any other changes apart from McCartin for Buddy? Would like to see Rowbottom rewarded but nobody really deserves to get dropped.
Yep - he is really looking the goods. Just keep him eating and in the gym for now I guess.
Fox is also back and could come in. While obviously not half the player JPK is the period he played and JPK didn't saw us moving the ball a lot better with Florent spending more time inside and just generally more speed and movement in the midfield while Parker and Hewett held it down on the inside.
It could be time for JPK to go and learn to coach on a 1 + 1 deal somewhere at the end of the year. (A new 2 year deal it is then?).

IN: Grassy, McCartin
OUT: Buddy, Melican't. (Sinkers to play forward, McCartin back)
 
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