Rumour Rumors of cat player in big trouble

[Pragmatic Shill]

now now, didnt the most famous Collingwood support got done for child s3x abuse? easy for me to then say all collingwood supporters cut from the same cloth but that would be stupid wouldn't it.

If you see the following response I made, I pointed out that in this particular situation it would more likely than not be a Geelong supporter making claims of false rape accusations.

 

[Willo_]

If you see the following response I made, I pointed out that in this particular situation it would more likely than not be a Geelong supporter making claims of false rape accusations.

I didn't take offence as a Cats fan FWIW... more as you said in this case it would be a Cats fan with that take, and if it was a Hawk it would be a Hawks fan, a Blue a Blues fan and so on and so on

 

[randyzany]

Trust a Geelong supporter to come in with this take. And trust an absolute cooker to turn sexual assault into a left/right dichotomous issue. What an absolute farcical statement.

Multiple studies from credible sources such as UK Crown Prosecution Service or the US National Sexual Violence Resource Center have shown that false reports of sexual assault occur in at the very most 10 per cent of cases. And that's if we're using a strict definition of "false" to mean malicious intent. It's far more common that there's an underreporting of sexual assault.

But here you walk in, having no doubt "done your own research" and figured out the world, proclaiming "innocent until proven guilty, every woman that reports rape is really just ashamed of their own sexual proclivities, anyone who disagrees with me is a loony lefty!" All because the accused is a player for the club you support.

Open the other eye mate, and stop downplaying the seriousness of a crime that remains all too prevalent in the world. It's not even an issue that you said "innocent until proven guilty," but you instantly went to the other extreme of suggesting rape accusations are by and large false and that's the real crime here - not the over 90 per cent of rape accusations that turn out to be legitimate or the rapes that go unreported because of stigma or fear of persecution.

By the way, not sure you realise how much of an own goal it is for "your side" to suggest that only left-wing people give a shit about rape accusations.

You’re putting words in my mouth and babbling on about cookers and other such nonsense that has nothing to do with what I posted, acting like you can ascertain my ideological political stances that have nothing to do with this case based on basically 1 relatively short post. To say you’re a weird unit is putting it mildly.

It is palpable how many non-Geelong posters in here are frothing at the mouth and waiting to label another person a rapist before he has even had his day in court to prove his innocence. And for what? Just to hang shit on Geelong? I’d be saying the same thing if it was a Hawthorn player being accused of sexual assault, it matters not one iota what club the player is from my opinion on the subject remains the same and does not waver.

Otherwise, why go through this charade of having a justice system and just throw people in jail based on nothing more than the word and accusations of another person?

I don’t care whether 0.0001% or 99.999% of people that are accused of a crime end up being convicted of it, every human being deserves a fair trial/hearing/what-have-you and an opportunity to prove their innocence.

One innocent individual being convicted of a crime he/she is not guilty of out of a billion is 1 too many. There are numerous stories of innocent men accused of sexual assault that end up committing suicide because of the stigma that lingers even after the court case established that there was no substance to the allegations.

That’s the biggest difference between being accused of sexual assault and other crimes; there are devastating lingering reputational repercussions that can destroy a person’s life in the aftermath of the case regardless of the verdict when it comes to sexual allegations. And it’s why I believe that in these types of cases the identity of the parties should be suppressed until the court proceedings have concluded.

I hope you don’t have any male relatives that or you yourself (assuming you’re male) are ever accused of sexual assault and everybody immediately assumes that they or you are rapists before they or you get a chance to contest those allegations. Perhaps if you go through that experience personally or a loved one does, you could possibly feel empathy for every gender/sex, not just women whose lives you seem to think are above those of men.

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

You’re putting words in my mouth and babbling on about cookers and other such nonsense that has nothing to do with what I posted, acting like you can ascertain my ideological political stances that have nothing to do with this case based on basically 1 relatively short post. To say you’re a weird unit is putting it mildly.

It is palpable how many non-Geelong posters in here are frothing at the mouth and waiting to label another person a rapist before he has even had his day in court to prove his innocence. And for what? Just to hang shit on Geelong? I’d be saying the same thing if it was a Hawthorn player being accused of sexual assault, it matters not one iota what club the player is from my opinion on the subject remains the same and does not waver.

Otherwise, why go through this charade of having a justice system and just throw people in jail based on nothing more than the word and accusations of another person?

I don’t care whether 0.0001% or 99.999% of people that are accused of a crime end up being convicted of it, every human being deserves a fair trial/hearing/what-have-you and an opportunity to prove their innocence.

One innocent individual being convicted of a crime he/she is not guilty of out of a billion is 1 too many. There are numerous stories of innocent men accused of sexual assault that end up committing suicide because of the stigma that lingers even after the court case established that there was no substance to the allegations.

That’s the biggest difference between being accused of sexual assault and other crimes; there are devastating lingering reputational repercussions that can destroy a person’s life in the aftermath of the case regardless of the verdict when it comes to sexual allegations. And it’s why I believe that in these types of cases the identity of the parties should be suppressed until the court proceedings have concluded.

I hope you don’t have any male relatives that or you yourself (assuming you’re male) are ever accused of sexual assault and everybody immediately assumes that they or you are rapists before they or you get a chance to contest those allegations. Perhaps if you go through that experience personally or a loved one does, you could possibly feel empathy for every gender/sex, not just women whose lives you seem to think are above those of men.

Oh please — don’t try to rewrite history and act like your original comment was some noble defence of the justice system. You didn’t just argue for name suppression — you went on a full-blown, sexist tirade about “vindictive strumpets,” whinged about “lefty white knights,” and pushed the tired, poisonous myth that women lie about rape. You don’t get to come back now pretending you’re a concerned citizen making a high-minded point about legal fairness. You keep talking about fairness and justice, but your original post made it clear you’d already picked a side — and it wasn’t the alleged victim. You want everyone else to hold back judgment, but you were quick to push the narrative that the accusation is probably a lie. That’s not neutrality. That’s bias — just dressed up in legal buzzwords.

You say I’m putting words in your mouth? Mate, your own post screams its subtext. You made it abundantly clear what your priorities are — and they’re not justice, they’re protecting men from consequences and casting doubt on victims by default. You don’t care about stats, you don’t care about facts — you care about control of the narrative, and your narrative is one where men are the real victims and women are manipulative liars. The fact that you’re trying to frame concern for rape victims as some kind of political ideology — like only “lefties” care — says more about your worldview than mine. If you see empathy as partisan, maybe that’s because you’ve tied your identity to people who’ve made cruelty and deflection part of the brand.

Let’s talk about empathy since you threw that word around: where was your empathy for rape victims when you wrote that garbage about “vindictive women”? Where was your concern for the people who don’t report because they know they'll be met with attitudes like yours? Because statistically, that's the actual problem — not false accusations, which remain vanishingly rare. You said you hope I never have to go through being falsely accused. Fair enough. But do you ever stop and imagine what it’s like to actually be r*ped — and then watch people fall over themselves to protect the accused’s reputation? To have your trauma downplayed or dismissed by people more concerned about hypotheticals than the reality of what happened to you?

You don’t get to demand silence from everyone the second someone’s accused — especially not when your first instinct is to cast suspicion on the accuser. No one is denying the right to a fair trial. But what you’re doing is waving the flag of “innocent until proven guilty” while going on to imply that most accusations are lies. That’s not fairness — that’s bias hiding behind a legal principle you clearly don’t understand.

And before you come back with more “you’re frothing” or “you’re a weird unit” deflections — just know that calling out garbage takes isn’t being emotional. It’s called accountability. You posted it. Own it.

 

[bigfarter]

Oh please — don’t try to rewrite history and act like your original comment was some noble defence of the justice system. You didn’t just argue for name suppression — you went on a full-blown, sexist tirade about “vindictive strumpets,” whinged about “lefty white knights,” and pushed the tired, poisonous myth that women lie about rape. You don’t get to come back now pretending you’re a concerned citizen making a high-minded point about legal fairness. You keep talking about fairness and justice, but your original post made it clear you’d already picked a side — and it wasn’t the alleged victim. You want everyone else to hold back judgment, but you were quick to push the narrative that the accusation is probably a lie. That’s not neutrality. That’s bias — just dressed up in legal buzzwords.

You say I’m putting words in your mouth? Mate, your own post screams its subtext. You made it abundantly clear what your priorities are — and they’re not justice, they’re protecting men from consequences and casting doubt on victims by default. You don’t care about stats, you don’t care about facts — you care about control of the narrative, and your narrative is one where men are the real victims and women are manipulative liars. The fact that you’re trying to frame concern for rape victims as some kind of political ideology — like only “lefties” care — says more about your worldview than mine. If you see empathy as partisan, maybe that’s because you’ve tied your identity to people who’ve made cruelty and deflection part of the brand.

Let’s talk about empathy since you threw that word around: where was your empathy for rape victims when you wrote that garbage about “vindictive women”? Where was your concern for the people who don’t report because they know they'll be met with attitudes like yours? Because statistically, that's the actual problem — not false accusations, which remain vanishingly rare. You said you hope I never have to go through being falsely accused. Fair enough. But do you ever stop and imagine what it’s like to actually be r*ped — and then watch people fall over themselves to protect the accused’s reputation? To have your trauma downplayed or dismissed by people more concerned about hypotheticals than the reality of what happened to you?

You don’t get to demand silence from everyone the second someone’s accused — especially not when your first instinct is to cast suspicion on the accuser. No one is denying the right to a fair trial. But what you’re doing is waving the flag of “innocent until proven guilty” while going on to imply that most accusations are lies. That’s not fairness — that’s bias hiding behind a legal principle you clearly don’t understand.

And before you come back with more “you’re frothing” or “you’re a weird unit” deflections — just know that calling out garbage takes isn’t being emotional. It’s called accountability. You posted it. Own it.

One of the best posts I’ve ever read on this site. Thanks.

 

[Shell]

Oh please — don’t try to rewrite history and act like your original comment was some noble defence of the justice system. You didn’t just argue for name suppression — you went on a full-blown, sexist tirade about “vindictive strumpets,” whinged about “lefty white knights,” and pushed the tired, poisonous myth that women lie about rape. You don’t get to come back now pretending you’re a concerned citizen making a high-minded point about legal fairness. You keep talking about fairness and justice, but your original post made it clear you’d already picked a side — and it wasn’t the alleged victim. You want everyone else to hold back judgment, but you were quick to push the narrative that the accusation is probably a lie. That’s not neutrality. That’s bias — just dressed up in legal buzzwords.

You say I’m putting words in your mouth? Mate, your own post screams its subtext. You made it abundantly clear what your priorities are — and they’re not justice, they’re protecting men from consequences and casting doubt on victims by default. You don’t care about stats, you don’t care about facts — you care about control of the narrative, and your narrative is one where men are the real victims and women are manipulative liars. The fact that you’re trying to frame concern for rape victims as some kind of political ideology — like only “lefties” care — says more about your worldview than mine. If you see empathy as partisan, maybe that’s because you’ve tied your identity to people who’ve made cruelty and deflection part of the brand.

Let’s talk about empathy since you threw that word around: where was your empathy for rape victims when you wrote that garbage about “vindictive women”? Where was your concern for the people who don’t report because they know they'll be met with attitudes like yours? Because statistically, that's the actual problem — not false accusations, which remain vanishingly rare. You said you hope I never have to go through being falsely accused. Fair enough. But do you ever stop and imagine what it’s like to actually be r*ped — and then watch people fall over themselves to protect the accused’s reputation? To have your trauma downplayed or dismissed by people more concerned about hypotheticals than the reality of what happened to you?

You don’t get to demand silence from everyone the second someone’s accused — especially not when your first instinct is to cast suspicion on the accuser. No one is denying the right to a fair trial. But what you’re doing is waving the flag of “innocent until proven guilty” while going on to imply that most accusations are lies. That’s not fairness — that’s bias hiding behind a legal principle you clearly don’t understand.

And before you come back with more “you’re frothing” or “you’re a weird unit” deflections — just know that calling out garbage takes isn’t being emotional. It’s called accountability. You posted it. Own it.

 

[Shell]

Very interesting point made above. Do you ever stop and think what it feels like to be r*ped

I also think about the flipside and what it would feel like to be a rapist and labelled one as such

Perhaps that's why most people plead not guilty to such crimes, even though they are.

 

[Shell]

A woman fwiw, summed that up brilliantly. She was having consensual sex which turned into very much non consensual anal sex. She received absolutely no justice whatsoever and was treated awfully by her college.
.
She was featured on a Louis Theroux documentary

 

[ShadowCat]

Oh please — don’t try to rewrite history and act like your original comment was some noble defence of the justice system. You didn’t just argue for name suppression — you went on a full-blown, sexist tirade about “vindictive strumpets,” whinged about “lefty white knights,” and pushed the tired, poisonous myth that women lie about rape. You don’t get to come back now pretending you’re a concerned citizen making a high-minded point about legal fairness. You keep talking about fairness and justice, but your original post made it clear you’d already picked a side — and it wasn’t the alleged victim. You want everyone else to hold back judgment, but you were quick to push the narrative that the accusation is probably a lie. That’s not neutrality. That’s bias — just dressed up in legal buzzwords.

You say I’m putting words in your mouth? Mate, your own post screams its subtext. You made it abundantly clear what your priorities are — and they’re not justice, they’re protecting men from consequences and casting doubt on victims by default. You don’t care about stats, you don’t care about facts — you care about control of the narrative, and your narrative is one where men are the real victims and women are manipulative liars. The fact that you’re trying to frame concern for rape victims as some kind of political ideology — like only “lefties” care — says more about your worldview than mine. If you see empathy as partisan, maybe that’s because you’ve tied your identity to people who’ve made cruelty and deflection part of the brand.

Let’s talk about empathy since you threw that word around: where was your empathy for rape victims when you wrote that garbage about “vindictive women”? Where was your concern for the people who don’t report because they know they'll be met with attitudes like yours? Because statistically, that's the actual problem — not false accusations, which remain vanishingly rare. You said you hope I never have to go through being falsely accused. Fair enough. But do you ever stop and imagine what it’s like to actually be r*ped — and then watch people fall over themselves to protect the accused’s reputation? To have your trauma downplayed or dismissed by people more concerned about hypotheticals than the reality of what happened to you?

You don’t get to demand silence from everyone the second someone’s accused — especially not when your first instinct is to cast suspicion on the accuser. No one is denying the right to a fair trial. But what you’re doing is waving the flag of “innocent until proven guilty” while going on to imply that most accusations are lies. That’s not fairness — that’s bias hiding behind a legal principle you clearly don’t understand.

And before you come back with more “you’re frothing” or “you’re a weird unit” deflections — just know that calling out garbage takes isn’t being emotional. It’s called accountability. You posted it. Own it.

You'll notice that the overwhelming majority of Cats supporters, support this post, Proof that this type of thinking doesn't split down tribal lines.

 

[ShadowCat]

You’re putting words in my mouth and babbling on about cookers and other such nonsense that has nothing to do with what I posted, acting like you can ascertain my ideological political stances that have nothing to do with this case based on basically 1 relatively short post. To say you’re a weird unit is putting it mildly.

It is palpable how many non-Geelong posters in here are frothing at the mouth and waiting to label another person a rapist before he has even had his day in court to prove his innocence. And for what? Just to hang shit on Geelong? I’d be saying the same thing if it was a Hawthorn player being accused of sexual assault, it matters not one iota what club the player is from my opinion on the subject remains the same and does not waver.

Otherwise, why go through this charade of having a justice system and just throw people in jail based on nothing more than the word and accusations of another person?

I don’t care whether 0.0001% or 99.999% of people that are accused of a crime end up being convicted of it, every human being deserves a fair trial/hearing/what-have-you and an opportunity to prove their innocence.

One innocent individual being convicted of a crime he/she is not guilty of out of a billion is 1 too many. There are numerous stories of innocent men accused of sexual assault that end up committing suicide because of the stigma that lingers even after the court case established that there was no substance to the allegations.

That’s the biggest difference between being accused of sexual assault and other crimes; there are devastating lingering reputational repercussions that can destroy a person’s life in the aftermath of the case regardless of the verdict when it comes to sexual allegations. And it’s why I believe that in these types of cases the identity of the parties should be suppressed until the court proceedings have concluded.

I hope you don’t have any male relatives that or you yourself (assuming you’re male) are ever accused of sexual assault and everybody immediately assumes that they or you are rapists before they or you get a chance to contest those allegations. Perhaps if you go through that experience personally or a loved one does, you could possibly feel empathy for every gender/sex, not just women whose lives you seem to think are above those of men.

The fact that you approach this through a 'the woman is usually lying' viewpoint (as per your previous point), shows that you're not approaching this impartially. This is also how the justice system is structured too.

Let's try a little thought experiment, shall we? I'll take this couple of paragraphs, and reword them so see if your thinking changes:

"I don’t care whether 0.0001% or 99.999% of people that are accused of a crime end up being convicted of it, every human being deserves a fair trial/hearing/what-have-you and an opportunity to prove their innocence.

One innocent individual being convicted of a crime he/she is not guilty of out of a billion is 1 too many. There are numerous stories of innocent men accused of sexual assault that end up committing suicide because of the stigma that lingers even after the court case established that there was no substance to the allegations."

"I don't care whether 0.0001% or 99.999% of women that are accused of being responsible for a rape or sexual assault due to their own actions, every woman deserves a fair trial/hearing/what-have-you and an opportunity to prove their validity without structural judicial bias"

"One innocent individual being r*ped, when he/she is not guilty of inviting it, out of a billion, is 1 too many. There are numerous stories of innocent women being r*ped and accused of being responsible for it, that end up committing suicide due to feelings of shame that linger even after the case is investigated, and proof is submitted to the police and the courts."

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If you can take your own original statement, and then weigh it against the bottom statement as just as important in your worldview, then you'll be demonstrating that you're not hopelessly biased towards the first 'non-lefty' way of thinking. If you can then recognize that more than 9/10 rape accusations are correct, as per significant statistical research across the western world, you can then understand that there is a 90+% chance that the woman is telling the truth in cases such as this. The number is significantly higher in Victoria/Australia.

"DiCanio (1993) states that while researchers and prosecutors do not agree on the exact percentage of cases in which there was sufficient evidence to conclude that allegations were false, they generally agree on a range of 2% to 10%.[25] Due to varying definitions of a "false accusation", the true percentage remains unknown.[26]

A 2009 study of rape cases across eleven countries in Europe found the proportion of cases designated as false ranged from 4% to 9%"

Police in Victoria, Australia (2006)​

A study of 850 rape accusations made to police in Victoria, Australia between 2000 and 2003 found that 2.1% were ultimately classified by police as false, with the complainants then charged or threatened with charges for filing a false police report.[20]


This is just some basic facts, but you can delve more into it if you want. This is also old data, and the prevalence of sexual assault and rape in contemporary society, is much higher. The fact remains though, that just because 2 men may be falsely accused in Victoria, for example, doesn't mean we should tar 98 women with the brush that 'oh they're probably lying'...as our justice system often does. More often than not, they're telling the truth. Approach it from that way of thinking, remove your own lived bias, and then maybe you'll be able to have a more informed, and less hyperbolic conversation.

 

[bigfarter]

It's not guilty until proven innocent but innocent until proven guilty, and the reason is that no one is forced to make an accusation they can't prove.

You'd also like to think that people make an accusation because they have all the proof they need, I mean, why make an accusation if you have no proof?

I think it's great that you haven't picked a side.

To me the interesting thing about cases like this (if Bruhn pleads not guilty of course?), is what happens to the alleged victim that can't prove their accusation in court, can we pick a side then, and which side would you pick?

A lot of people telling me that Balta was an idiot for putting himself in a position to do something stupid, but in a case like this, who would we say is stupid for putting themselves in this position?

If something happens to you without witnesses or camera footage has it not happened? The little kid molested in bed by someone they trust without anyone knowing - do they not deserve justice?

 

[Shell]

Fwiw. That teeny tiny percent of women who may lie about rape. They're as bad as rapists in my book

Disgusting thing to do to a completely innocent person, man or woman

 

[Shell]

If something happens to you without witnesses or camera footage has it not happened? The little kid molested in bed by someone they trust without anyone knowing - do they not deserve justice?

That's the frustrating thing the lack of proof.

Most SAs would occur in private. It's not the Adrian Bayleys stalking Jill Meagher on CCTV.


Don't even get me started on that bastard tho and what he did before it culminated to murder

 

[Shell]

Do you ever think how stupid a Geelong footballer would have to be to rape some woman and believe that she wont report it?

There is a reason you're innocent until proven guilty.

The time to pick a side will come, but that's not yet.

Cool story bro
.I'll do whatever the **** I want thanks

 

[bigfarter]

Fwiw. That teeny tiny percent of women who may lie about rape. They're as bad as rapists in my book

Disgusting thing to do to a completely innocent person, man or woman

Agreed. I just get very worked up by people who take the “she’s probably lying” approach. The numbers and stats are there but so many people still don’t understand how many assaults go unreported. The amount of women in my life who have told me about instances of assault that they never reported is terrifying. I myself was assaulted last hear (with witnesses) and never reported it because while it has left me emotionally devastated going through legal proceedings would just be worse. I used to have long hair and the amount of times a bloke mistook me for a woman and either grabbed my arse or pushes his crotch against it at a pub were astronomical. It’s awful if and when an innocent person is accused but the people who act like that is the norm rather than the outlier are completely ignorant.

 

[Shell]

Agreed. I just get very worked up by people who take the “she’s probably lying” approach. The numbers and stats are there but so many people still don’t understand how many assaults go unreported. The amount of women in my life who have told me about instances of assault that they never reported is terrifying. I myself was assaulted last hear (with witnesses) and never reported it because while it has left me emotionally devastated going through legal proceedings would just be worse. I used to have long hair and the amount of times a bloke mistook me for a woman and either grabbed my arse or pushes his crotch against it at a pub were astronomical. It’s awful if and when an innocent person is accused but the people who act like that is the norm rather than the outlier are completely ignorant.

I've never been a victim of sexual assault

I consider myself lucky


And I'm so sorry it happened to you

 

[ShadowCat]

Do you ever think how stupid a Geelong footballer would have to be to rape some woman and believe that she wont report it?

Not if said footballer is conditioned to believe that what they're doing isn't rape, and rather, just their version of sexual gratification.

Pornography has warped many young people's minds. As have the Andrew Tates and Elon Musks of the world. Young men are taught that women like being manhandled and treated poorly, as it's 'sexy.' The key thing they miss though, is that you can have this kind of sexual interaction, but if a woman says no and you continue - regardless of if you think this is how the sexual dynamic should play out -, you're committing a crime when you go against her consent.

This is generally how the majority of these cases play out, and why so few get convicted in the scheme of things. Society is warped when it comes to the idea of 'good sex.'

 

[Shell]

Not if said footballer is conditioned to believe that what they're doing isn't rape, and rather, just their version of sexual gratification.

Pornography has warped many young people's minds. As has the Andrew Tates and Elon Musks of the world. Young men are taught that women like being manhandled and treated poorly, as it's 'sexy.' The key thing they miss though, is that you can have this kind of sexual interaction, but if a woman says no and you continue - regardless of if you think this is how the sexual dynamic should play out -, you're committing a crime when you go against her consent.

This is generally how the majority of these cases play out, and why so few get convicted in the scheme of things. Society is warped when it comes to the idea of 'good sex.'

There was a documentary about this on SBS not long ago. It was actually horrifying. About half way thru tho I had to switch off. It was like I didn't want to waste any more of my time on these dickheads

 

[Toump Ass]

Not true.

I have just given evidence in a commital hearing for the prosecution in a rape case. Not only did the alleged rapist name make the local paper, so did mine and the evidence that I gave.

Good on you for giving evidence, but yeah, I wouldn't be comfortable with that at all.

 

[The Feeder Club]

Open justice ACT style, and it is not exactly known as the haven of such things https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-17/rajeev-pathak-doctor-accused-rape/105189172

Note the words of the magistrate, for those arguing the opposite:

She also rejected concerns a jury could be affected by the publicity.

"It is a common consequence that people are named," Magistrate Begley told the court.

"I am not persuaded a jury pool would be contaminated."

Magistrate Begley said she would allow the application to lift the suppression on Dr Pathak's name because there was no identified risk to the administration of justice.

 

[RandyStickman]

Something others haven't considered either, that has also bothered me a bit, is the fact that this may not have been a first time incident. There's nothing to say he didn't engage in this behaviour as a youth, and as a young AFL player in Sydney.

Comes from a privileged private school background, good looking kid, and seems very assured of himself. Incident only happened after he'd been in Geelong all of 5 months. Suggests behaviour that isn't new, and it's only now he's been caught.

All highly speculative comments I know, but, with the alleged nature of the crime, offenders aren't created overnight - there's usually a history of escalation.

Your description & speculation of a privileged private school prat, gets his own way & a Geelong newcomer are incorrect.

The person in question was born and raised in Geelong or close-by. Began his career at Newtwon / Chiswell FC. Went to St Josephs before getting a scholarship to Geelong Grammar. Is well-known and liked by his friends / peers of similar age in his social group. Is reported to be of an unassuming disposition: quiet, reserved. No previous history of any 'controversy' in this regard.

His innocence or guilt is to be judged in court, by others, who are privy to all the available evidence.

It seems to me that this matter is being handled by the judicial system, the AFL and Geelong FC in the most appropriate manner and in the best interests of both the applicant and the respondent.

 

[Geelong_Bisons_#36]

Well they did let Stengle play after his very dubious incident out on the town a little while ago. Think that about sums up where their culture is at

 

[Muddiemoose]

Trying to create some kind of “gotcha” scenario about something that hasn’t happened in order to try and make a point about a completely different issue is all a bit shit

Be better, especially given the sensitivity of the allegations and potential parties involved

 

[Doc1763]

Its an interesting one.
If is not charged, there is not much the AFL can do, it comes down to Geelong, and we know what will happen there.
As far a Balta is concerned, I think its pretty certain that if the AFL had seen that vision before they ticked off on the 4 weeks, it would have been more.

 

[WillHayward]

Well they did let Stengle play after his very dubious incident out on the town a little while ago. Think that about sums up where their culture is at

Don't think he committed a crime and only hurt himself.

Hangover alone was probably punishment. But no suggestion he harmed anyone else.

They should have just got him to run laps hungover. Old school.