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Scott Morrison - How Long? (Part 1 - Continued in Part 2)

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I just don't get it... who other than LNP MPs and Senators even listen to Bolt, Hadley, Credlin, Newscorp journos. It's like an echo chamber. Why do these people wield so much influence when 99% of Australians couldn't give a toss what they think?
They have no actual social base to give them grounding. So those wingnuts act as their base.

As recently as 20 years ago their was a substantial base to both parties. That has evaporated.
 
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We know how he will explain these things...

Turnbull made him do it because it is Labor's fault and he has learnt his lesson and will laser in on the Australian people because the cost of living is out of control thanks to migrants and the lack of coal powered electricity generation.
 
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Morrison has consistently voted against tobacco plain packaging, a price on carbon, and increasing Aboriginal land rights. Morrison has also supported other key conservative flagship issues, such as decreasing funding to the SBS and the ABC.

Voted against SSM.

On other measures, Morrison remains wedded to a small-state, low-tax agenda, even if his proposed corporate tax cuts do not materialise. He is also the latest in a long line of treasurers refusing to increase the welfare safety net, leaving Newstart untouched for 20 years.

He apparently thought he could win the case to increase the GST with the Australian public.
 
Lol who are these dumbos that think the Libs will cut immigration. They LOVE it. Cheaper labour and boosted house prices. Money for jam for their actual constituency.
Would destroy small business
The best way to sell a crap business is find a new immigrant who needs a job to get his papers stamped,
They dont care about hard work and no profit for a year or 2, there will be another on the treadmill to bail them out before the ink drys
Who needs people smugglers and boats when you just get a business broker.(obviously costs heaps more so only the rich need apply)
Theres no chance of being detained in a concentration camp for life and the Libs arent going to dogwhistle stop the business brokers
 
As much as I'm enjoying this thread being a Dream Diary by the anti-immigrant types who love lurking on the internet, don't us voters have to accept some responsibility for the turnover in leaders? The key thing, no matter how justified by Labor's infighting in 2013, was Tony Abbott having a small bit of success:
  1. 2007: Howard loses. Rudd takes over. Labor deals with the GFC well. Nothing major to complain about yet.
  2. Nelson is ineffectual and Turnbull takes over the Libs. He also turns out to be not-so-great, but the key thing is that hard-right Liberals types don't believe in Climate Change (or are receiving heaps of coal lobbyist favours) and so they vote in Abbott by one vote.
  3. Abbott is a non-stop negativity machine, especially about Climate Change, and Labor get spooked.
  4. Gillard removes Rudd due to a bad poll and because he's apparently a prick to work with (most people, including Labor, say this was an error in hindsight)
  5. Then Gillard was removed because polling is against her ('saving the furniture'), even though the alternative, Abbott, was inept.
  6. Abbott is removed because he was inept, and polling was against him. Turnbull promises to be a consensus leader due to the Climate Change stuff killing him last time around.
  7. MT can't do anything coz he's not-so-great, and a hard right minority and their conservative media pals, somehow still based around Abbott, won't let him.
  8. Now we have Morrison, and already the anti-immigrant types ITT are demanding their preferred policy. Abbott and his will surely do the same, right?
The Murdoch media, for whatever reason, is obsessed with keeping anti-immigration topics bubbling along as somehow being important. If we ignore them, and their talking heads (and their so-called 'silent majority' who are forever being not-a-bit silent online or on talk-back radio), then politicians won't feel as under pressure from those people. One Nation gets a few more votes, Dutton loses his seat. It's not as big a deal as a major party, the LNP, being a friggin' mess.

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Morrison will stay in the role until he loses the next federal election. The likes of Abbott and Dutton though will undermine him from day one. That is what they do and that is all they have to offer Australian politics.



Neither side of politics genuinely wants to touch immigration because immigration has accounted for two-thirds of economic growth over the past decade. Reduce immigration by a significant level and they run the risk of causing a recession and that will destroy the LNP's credibility for a generation. Drastically reducing immigration is only favoured on the far right of the party and none of those people are remotely electable.

If a political party genuinely reduces immigration then they'd have to explain to the Australian people why productivity growth is so poor. They wouldn't be able to sit back and crow about how wonderful economic expansion that has lasted for 27 years but spluttered along for a decade. There is no appetite for that and Morrison won't change that.


Maybe there wouldn't be an economic problem if they cut immigration, and maybe gave the jobs to Australians instead.

I am looking for work, and there are far more people unemployed than there are jobs. Last thing we need is more people coming into this country and taking what little jobs there are now.
 

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Bishop is past her useby date. Promote Dutton to treasurer and return Abbott to the front bench as Immigration minister. The louder the left scream the more correct the decision.

You could also say the louder the right scream the more correct the decision is. Elections are won at the centre. Dutton and Abbott's faction, their media minions (Jones, Hadley, Bolt, Devine, etc), and voters like you aren't the centre. But really, whatever direction ScoMo takes the LNP is irrelevant—the Liberal Party is divided, has become a circus, and will not recover before the next election. The next election will be a landslide victory for the ALP.
 
I can't see a world where Abbott should be rewarded, he has embarrassed this Country but it is polishits. He should never wear Speedos in public....ever!
You need to remember that this Same Bloke, Tough Man Tony Abbott, Actually had the balls, to Pick a fight with one of the worlds most dangerous men in Russian "President" Vladimir Putin.

Abbott then backed those budgies down and made us Aussies an embarrassment to the international community
 
Part of Morrison's maiden speech:

Growing up in a Christian home, I made a commitment to my faith at an early age and have been greatly assisted by the pastoral work of many dedicated church leaders, in particular the Reverend Ray Green and pastors Brian Houston and Leigh Coleman. My personal faith in Jesus Christ is not a political agenda. As Lincoln said, our task is not to claim whether God is on our side but to pray earnestly that we are on His. For me, faith is personal, but the implications are social—as personal and social responsibility are at the heart of the Christian message. In recent times it has become fashionable to negatively stereotype those who profess their Christian faith in public life as ‘extreme’ and to suggest that such faith has no place in the political debate of this country. This presents a significant challenge for those of us, like my colleague, who seek to follow the example of William Wilberforce or Desmond Tutu, to name just two. These leaders stood for the immutable truths and principles of the Christian faith. They transformed their nations and, indeed, the world in the process. More importantly, by following the convictions of their faith, they established and reinforced the principles of our liberal democracy upon which our own nation is built.

Australia is not a secular country—it is a free country. This is a nation where you have the freedom to follow any belief system you choose. Secularism is just one. It has no greater claim than any other on our society. As US Senator Joe Lieberman said, the Constitution guarantees freedom of religion, not from religion. I believe the same is true in this country.

So what values do I derive from my faith? My answer comes from Jeremiah, chapter 9:24:

... I am the Lord who exercises loving-kindness, justice and righteousness on earth; for I delight in these things, declares the Lord.

From my faith I derive the values of loving-kindness, justice and righteousness, to act with compassion and kindness, acknowledging our common humanity and to consider the welfare of others; to fight for a fair go for everyone to fulfil their human potential and to remove whatever unjust obstacles stand in their way, including diminishing their personal responsibility for their own wellbeing; and to do what is right, to respect the rule of law, the sanctity of human life and the moral integrity of marriage and the family. We must recognise an unchanging and absolute standard of what is good and what is evil. Desmond Tutu put it this way:

... we expect Christians ... to be those who stand up for the truth, to stand up for justice, to stand on the side of the poor and the hungry, the homeless and the naked, and when that happens, then Christians will be trustworthy believable witnesses.
why didn't god damn tough man tony abbott say this when he became prime minister? he is a good old jolly Christian boy too!
 

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Funding for health and education is shared almost equal between federal and state.

Why do you think as soon as the federal government brings up cuts to those areas there is such an outcry?

You really think that if voters are told we are going to spend more money on stopping the boats/immigration and defence and cut funds to education and health the public would say, yes you have my vote?

The feds basically fund private / independant education, the states basically fund public schools, so if you've got kids it might depend on which side of the fence you're on I guess.
 
Maybe there wouldn't be an economic problem if they cut immigration, and maybe gave the jobs to Australians instead.

I am looking for work, and there are far more people unemployed than there are jobs. Last thing we need is more people coming into this country and taking what little jobs there are now.

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How dare you believe that Australian government policy be designed for the betterment of Australians.
 
Part of Morrison's maiden speech:

Growing up in a Christian home, I made a commitment to my faith at an early age and have been greatly assisted by the pastoral work of many dedicated church leaders, in particular the Reverend Ray Green and pastors Brian Houston and Leigh Coleman. My personal faith in Jesus Christ is not a political agenda. As Lincoln said, our task is not to claim whether God is on our side but to pray earnestly that we are on His. For me, faith is personal, but the implications are social—as personal and social responsibility are at the heart of the Christian message. In recent times it has become fashionable to negatively stereotype those who profess their Christian faith in public life as ‘extreme’ and to suggest that such faith has no place in the political debate of this country. This presents a significant challenge for those of us, like my colleague, who seek to follow the example of William Wilberforce or Desmond Tutu, to name just two. These leaders stood for the immutable truths and principles of the Christian faith. They transformed their nations and, indeed, the world in the process. More importantly, by following the convictions of their faith, they established and reinforced the principles of our liberal democracy upon which our own nation is built.

Australia is not a secular country—it is a free country. This is a nation where you have the freedom to follow any belief system you choose. Secularism is just one. It has no greater claim than any other on our society. As US Senator Joe Lieberman said, the Constitution guarantees freedom of religion, not from religion. I believe the same is true in this country.

So what values do I derive from my faith? My answer comes from Jeremiah, chapter 9:24:

... I am the Lord who exercises loving-kindness, justice and righteousness on earth; for I delight in these things, declares the Lord.

From my faith I derive the values of loving-kindness, justice and righteousness, to act with compassion and kindness, acknowledging our common humanity and to consider the welfare of others; to fight for a fair go for everyone to fulfil their human potential and to remove whatever unjust obstacles stand in their way, including diminishing their personal responsibility for their own wellbeing; and to do what is right, to respect the rule of law, the sanctity of human life and the moral integrity of marriage and the family. We must recognise an unchanging and absolute standard of what is good and what is evil. Desmond Tutu put it this way:

... we expect Christians ... to be those who stand up for the truth, to stand up for justice, to stand on the side of the poor and the hungry, the homeless and the naked, and when that happens, then Christians will be trustworthy believable witnesses.

I'll keep this and try to remember his words every time he goes against them.

I'm not entirely against religion but I don't need my prime minister spewing that shit out in his first speech. For those not already alienated he just took care of a big slice.
 
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