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Scott Morrison - How Long? Part 2
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Prayer. Jesus ****ing Christ.
I don't actually understand the outrage on this one. It's not like he is simply praying and nothing else. He's very openly a Christian and I'm not sure why you'd expect him not to pray about a crisis like this. And in a country where the last census revealed a majority of people identify with the Christian faith, a majority of people would support him praying for wisdom, guidance and deliverance.
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How about he pisses off into a building we are not paying for if he wants to talk to his sky fairy.
We are meant to have a clear separation between religion and politics.
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I'm sure the various hindus, muslims and sikhs that live in this country will be hugely thankful for Scott Morrison praying to Jehovah for them.
Ask yourself this question: does his religion need to take centre stage, all the time?
Its a marketing decision
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So was nailing Jesus to the cross.
Loving the foam flowing in here guys!
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Perhaps it's because most theologians agree that Though Shalt Be An Absolute Bastard is not one of the Ten Commandments.
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I am not sure that is technically true based on these figures plus those they didn't identify as any religion (see note b).
In saying this after his stumble with his church holding a conference and his wanting to go to the football, think he and State Premiers are doing a good job under the circumstances.
Sorry to quote lots of replies here, but I just wanted to address some of the points individually. I'm by no means a fan of Scott Morrison of the Liberal party and there are plenty of things he has done that are legitimately frustrating (and at times, outraging), I just don't think this is one of them.
And if someone professes their faith to be a central part of their lives like Scott Morrison has, I'd probably be a little bit confused if he didn't bring it up.
Except the preamble to the Constitution refers to a reliance on "Almighty God" and all Australian parliaments are opened with a Christian prayer. I'm not sure we have ever had a clear separation between religion and politics.
Muslims pray to the same God though. But to the wider point, I have no problem with anyone (whether an elected leader or a regular joe) praying for a better outcome in this pandemic. I would have a problem if they were using a prayer as a substitute for other actions (e.g. Margaret Court's church in Perth saying they had prayed protection on their congregation, so everything would be fine), but not the prayer itself.
And if someone professes their faith to be a central part of their lives like Scott Morrison has, I'd probably be a little bit confused if he didn't bring it up.
Don't mistake me. I think he has demonstrated an attitude that is very much at odds with his professed Christianity and his actions as Immigration Minister were particularly deplorable. I have nothing to base this on but a belief in basic human decency, but I actually think he struggles with some of the decisions he made during his time in charge of Immigration. Maybe not regrets, but definitely struggles with.
That footnote is a little confusing. It's 52% (i.e. a majority) of the overall population, but actually 57.7% of people that answered that question.
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Because the minute differences between specific subsets of religion has never mattered before...
I don't exactly concede the point; I will acknowledge that his behaviour is as consistent as it is expected. Where I refuse to concede is that his position is a secular one, and him calling on his god all the ****ing time undermines the respect of the position he holds (for what that is worth).
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Didn’t he ‘commit Australia to God’. Yeah, that can **** right off, his election doesn’t mean he can speak for everyone on matters of religion.
I think you will find the "Canberra Bubble" is quite the "Christian Bubble"
Scotty is much more overt with his happy clapping religion but he is certainly not alone. Rudd, Turnbull and obviously Abbott are all devout Christians.
Christianity provides them quite the cover for ignoring all sorts of reality when it suits all of them.
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Never thought of him in those terms.
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Thanks for your considered post.
The bolded bit is news to me. Morrison strikes me as a smug alpha bully who turns his Christian morality on and off opportunistically. Do you have any evidence for your belief that he feels conflicted by what he had to do as Immigration Minister?
Personally I think it's a private matter. What he believes is entirely his right and his business, but the nation needs to know he is governing with our best interests at heart, not those of his particular religious persuasion.
That point would have a lot more weight if Muslim Sunnis and Muslim Shi'ites; and Northern Irish Christian Protestants and Northern Irish Christian Catholics didn't have a long, long history of being at each other's throats despite ostensibly praying to the same god.
Anyway, good post and thanks for bringing it up.
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I’ll sum it up as I’d have the same reaction of any PM of any faith doing the same.
Just read about the way megachurches have helped spread corona in South Korea, France and now the US, it's kinda chilling
Praying about it right now is just plain stupid, like that Kenneth Copeland bloke recently trying to destroy corona through prayer, that was something
Praying about it right now is just plain stupid, like that Kenneth Copeland bloke recently trying to destroy corona through prayer, that was something
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We should have closed places of worship earlier IMO.
They're high-density environments which are largely attended by the elderly.
who were duped by their preachers that they were protected
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