Shaun Atley vs Jason Johannisen

[threenewpadlocks]

Pretty sure Johannisen lost something like only 1 of his first 25 one-on-one contests last year - remember hearing it on the radio from the Champion Data dude.

 

[Richo83]

lel. Rarely beaten one on one is Atley.

I don't mind Atley as a defender, but that gif doesn't prove that much. He's in a contest where the ball is kicked to his side, and he's playing against Hartlett who is hardly a contested bull. I'm sure there are moments where Atley has proven himself as a defender, but that gif isn't really proving it.

 

[Damon_3388]

Still waiting for Atley to take that "next step". Seems like he's been around the same level for 3-4 years.

 

[Bulldog1954]

Pretty sure Johannisen lost something like only 1 of his first 25 one-on-one contests last year - remember hearing it on the radio from the Champion Data dude.

Not as good as Atley going 1 for 1 as shown by the gif

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

FWIW, Johannisen lost only 19.4% of his one-on-one contests in 2015, which was 9% better than the AFL average for his position. Atley lost 31.6% of his.

 

[ManOfClay]

FWIW, Johannisen lost only 19.4% of his one-on-one contests in 2015, which was 9% better than the AFL average for his position. Atley lost 31.6% of his.

Damning for North supporters' argument there

 

[Donkey Chop]

FWIW, Johannisen lost only 19.4% of his one-on-one contests in 2015, which was 9% better than the AFL average for his position. Atley lost 31.6% of his.

To put this into context we really need to know how many one on ones they were in.

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

To put this into context we really need to know how many one on ones they were in.

I don't have those stats unfortunately - if somebody wants to Tweet Champion Data I'm sure they'd be able to share the information though. I don't have Twitter but I know they're pretty active on there.

 

[eth-dog]

To put this into context we really need to know how many one on ones they were in.

Champion_Data can you answer this?

 

[Super Hans]

FWIW, Johannisen lost only 19.4% of his one-on-one contests in 2015, which was 9% better than the AFL average for his position. Atley lost 31.6% of his.

Can you back up these stats with a .gif though?

 

[Champion_Data]

Champion_Data can you answer this?

Contests: Win / Neutral / Loss

AFL Average (Defensive one on one)
- 29% / 43% / 28%

2016
Atley - 19: 4 / 9 / 6
JJ - 31: 11 / 14 / 6

Career (Missing Atley's debut year)
Atley - 98: 25 / 42 / 31
JJ - 54: 19 / 21 / 14

 

[ManOfClay]

Contests: Win / Neutral / Loss

AFL Average (Defensive one on one)
- 29% / 43% / 28%

2016
Atley - 19: 4 / 9 / 6
JJ - 31: 11 / 14 / 6

Career (Missing Atley's debut year)
Atley - 98: 25 / 42 / 31
JJ - 54: 19 / 21 / 14

So much for Atley being better one on one then

 

[Donkey Chop]

Pretty impressive from JJ. If he can go on with it he'll be a good little back pocket

 

[ManOfClay]

Pretty impressive from JJ. If he can go on with it he'll be a good little back pocket

Add in his superior rebounding skills and this poll isn't close

 

[Lorne Malvo]

Add in his superior rebounding skills and this poll isn't close

I didn't even know JJ played Basket Ball

 

[ArjenTheGreat]

Just like M.O.C is to North!

MOC is a North supporter believe it or not... He switched teams as a young man.

Bad judgement, but there is light at the end of the 62 year tunnel.

Add in his superior rebounding skills and this poll isn't close

Atley wouldn't get a game for the dogs, we all know that.

FWIW, Johannisen lost only 19.4% of his one-on-one contests in 2015, which was 9% better than the AFL average for his position. Atley lost 31.6% of his.

How do you fit all these superstars into your team? Its unfortunate that you can select only 22 superstars each week out of 44 superstars on your list.

Does Beveridge have the hardest job in footy?

 

[shniko11]

MOC is a North supporter believe it or not... He switched teams as a young man.

Bad judgement, but there is light at the end of the 62 year tunnel.

Haha yeah bit like the Tunnel in Paris A.T.G they never saw the light unfortunately..

 

[ManOfClay]

Have never been a north supporter.

Bought memberships, yes. Supported the keep north in Melbourne cause.

But I see now north supporters are trying to take the thread off topic after their Atley is a better 1v1 defender argument was shot down

 

[ArjenTheGreat]

Have never been a north supporter.

Bought memberships, yes. Supported the keep north in Melbourne cause.

But I see now north supporters are trying to take the thread off topic after their Atley is a better 1v1 defender argument was shot down

Please... JJ plays against weaker opposition due to your shitness (prior to this year) and softer draw. Not to mention he is your 3rd choice small defender and ends up on lesser opponents in shitter teams.

Its pretty obvious no?

 

[ManOfClay]

Solid backflip/10.

Atley would be in our vfl side

 

[ArjenTheGreat]

Solid backflip/10.

Atley would be in our vfl side

To be fair, it wasn't my argument, I was simply mounting a case for the discrepancy.

Atley was in our VFL side last June for a week too, so don't flatter yourself

 

[Lorne Malvo]

Anyone else feel like this is the thread that will keep on giving this year?

 

[ManOfClay]

Anyone else feel like this is the thread that will keep on giving this year?

Will this be finally the year Atley's output matches the hype north supporters give him?

 

[Lorne Malvo]

Will this be finally the year Atley's output matches the hype north supporters give him?

I think we're pretty happy with how he's going. Can he improve? Yeah sure. Having said that he's been a pretty solid player for a few years now. He's only 23 but has already played 109 games. If he gets better it will be a bonus but we know he's not a one season wonder.

 

[The_Flying_Egg]

How do you fit all these superstars into your team? Its unfortunate that you can select only 22 superstars each week out of 44 superstars on your list.

Does Beveridge have the hardest job in footy?

You quote perfectly relevant statistics on one on one contests and then respond with this petty rubbish ... Jesus Christ