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Rumour Speculation, Rumours, Lies Thread 2025 - Part 2
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Fritz n Sauce
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Just a friendly reminder that at the time the club was really needing key position players rather than mid/forwards and he was “meant” to be a clear standout.
McAsey certainly was a clear standout. Right up there with Angwin.
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It was a dumb pick.
With the mountain of knowledge recruiting teams have these days they would have well known the poor kid had mental health battles,
he clearly didn't want to go interstate (look at the family reaction trade night)
An unfortunate situation all round.
Ollie Wines, Brent Reilly, Travis Boak, Dan Curtin.... there's a lot of examples of players having similar reactions.
Fish might have been the wrong pick (clearly), but he wasn't helped by the circumstances at the time.
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Yeah it was a pretty tough time to be away from your family and a crisis like that changes your perspective on everything.
It was quite unfortunate that we were the only club in the finals with two injured players.
Hamish seems to struggle at times with mids, I think he can at times get too focused on a narrow set of skills, but then we also seem to struggle to develop too.
Chayce Jones, Ned McHenry, Harry Schoenberg, Ronin O'Connor, Luke Pedlar, Sam Berry, Jake Soligo, Zac Taylor, Billy Dowling, Hugh Bond, Charlie Edwards and Sid Draper all selected since 2018.
Needs to be some sort of serious overhaul on what we're rating or how we're developing/coaching if you can spend all that draft capital and you've jettisoned a lot of it or have it sitting on the flanks at best.
Chayce Jones, Ned McHenry, Harry Schoenberg, Ronin O'Connor, Luke Pedlar, Sam Berry, Jake Soligo, Zac Taylor, Billy Dowling, Hugh Bond, Charlie Edwards and Sid Draper all selected since 2018.
Needs to be some sort of serious overhaul on what we're rating or how we're developing/coaching if you can spend all that draft capital and you've jettisoned a lot of it or have it sitting on the flanks at best.
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This is the problem in a nutshell at the AFC, recruiting the WRONG type of midfielder and then NOT developing them properly or playing them out of position etc.
Seriously - need someone to go spend an offseason to see what Brisbane do in their system to develop players.
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Someone talking common sense, WTH!
Yep and add to your list Gallucci, Poholke, Signorello, the worst of the lot!
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The earlier the pick, the less risk usually we afford it.
I think this translates to a preference of a stable, safe kid who (on average) represents good value, over someone who is unfinished, sparodic but with elite potential and bigger ceiling.
Is it a surprise that in the midfield we lack the game changing qualities at the highest level of finals?
I think this translates to a preference of a stable, safe kid who (on average) represents good value, over someone who is unfinished, sparodic but with elite potential and bigger ceiling.
Is it a surprise that in the midfield we lack the game changing qualities at the highest level of finals?
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To be fair, Soligo did just make the 22 under 22 side.
He just needs to start turning up against the better sides.
He was one of only two forwards in the first final that fired a shot against Collingwood. Still think there's a player there with some of the things he does but I don't see it being any more than a HFF kind of role.
Pedlar is the potential inside midfielder we need. Has the right attributes. But the guy needs to spent the entire preseason running or on the bike Neil Craig style - looks gassed every time he does anything.
Nah. Not a natural ball winner. He's never shown he's capable of getting enough of the ball to be a mid.
Rachele on the other hand.
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While most teams draft record is 50/50 one of the areas we have under performed is in the Rookie Draft. With the exception of Butts and Keays they are mainly busts. Compare our record with Geelong. No wonder they can offer three firsts for Top 20 talent when they can find first team players in the rookie draft.
AFL Rookie Draft
2015
13 Paul Hunter: (14) Tom Papley
2016
13 Sam Shaw: (16) Jack Henry - Geelong
30 passed: (33) Zach Guthrie - Geelong, (34) Robbie Fox, (37) Oscar McInerney
45 Ben Jarman: (46) Toby Pink
2017
17 Patrick Wilson: (18) Liam Baker, (22) Brody Mihocek
2018
7 Kieran Strachan: (11) Tom Atkins - Geelong
24 Paul Hunter:
39 Jordan Butts:
2019
7 Ben Keays: (14) Brad Close - Geelong
21 Ben Crocker: (35) Lachie Henderson - Geelong
2020
1 Bryce Gibbs: (7) Josh Treacy
2021 Mid-season draft
4 Patrick Parnell: (7) James Peatling, (8) Sam Durham
2022
4 Ben Davis: (15) Ollie Dempsey - Geelong
2022 Mid-season draft
4 Brett Turner: (6) Max Ramsden
2023
9 Will Hamill: (10) Lachlan McNeil
2024
3 Harry Schoenberg
16 Chris Burgess
AFL Rookie Draft
2015
13 Paul Hunter: (14) Tom Papley
2016
13 Sam Shaw: (16) Jack Henry - Geelong
30 passed: (33) Zach Guthrie - Geelong, (34) Robbie Fox, (37) Oscar McInerney
45 Ben Jarman: (46) Toby Pink
2017
17 Patrick Wilson: (18) Liam Baker, (22) Brody Mihocek
2018
7 Kieran Strachan: (11) Tom Atkins - Geelong
24 Paul Hunter:
39 Jordan Butts:
2019
7 Ben Keays: (14) Brad Close - Geelong
21 Ben Crocker: (35) Lachie Henderson - Geelong
2020
1 Bryce Gibbs: (7) Josh Treacy
2021 Mid-season draft
4 Patrick Parnell: (7) James Peatling, (8) Sam Durham
2022
4 Ben Davis: (15) Ollie Dempsey - Geelong
2022 Mid-season draft
4 Brett Turner: (6) Max Ramsden
2023
9 Will Hamill: (10) Lachlan McNeil
2024
3 Harry Schoenberg
16 Chris Burgess
You cant really compare a guy like Signorello, I mean how many pick 60 odd midfielders actually make it
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It does my head in how we have used the rookie draft in the last few years, we don't uncover talent, just extend an existing player for another year before cutting them.
It goes back to my thoughts on us not being ruthless enough with our list in an attempt to have a strong SANFL side.
Agreed. Our record in the rookie draft used to be pretty good... but in recent years, we stopped even trying to find players there.
You would think Murray Davis should know.
I know he’s had regular injury interruptions but recollection is that his last couple have been shoulder related. He should have still been able to get planet of clicks into his legs. I have no confidence that he’ll develop even a squirt midfielder’s tank with us or at all.
Peatling wasn’t ours, GWS took him in that draft.
Murray Davis would know everything there is to know about Brisbane’s methods. We already have that intel. Also, development is one thing, sure, but their access to talent is the major factor for their success, and Fagan must be credited too. Elite Father-Son and Academy talents all over the place, with more to come. Plus they have traded superbly (Neale, Dunkley, Cameron, etc). Expect at least one more flag from this group.
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