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half_back_flank said:
I'm fairly confident that the 2500 will suit IAD more. He relied on his class to win before the Spring Champion, he is bred to stay and has shown that in all of his runs so far.

Super Cool is a very nice, and I would back him to beat IAD at 1600, which is what the Vase was basically run at. At 2500, with plenty of room to wind up I think it will be a different story.

Only thing that can beat IAD is if he's already peaked, yet the Baker camp still seem confident and he's been here before and succeeded with the same prep a couple of years ago with Lion Tamer.
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His racing style is always risky though. A get backer who'll rely on tempo. Super Cool simply beat him with tactics. Still think IAD can win and deserves to be favourite but the price is far too short for mine given the massive X factor of 2500m. Let's not forget that Manawanui was 24 ratings points ahead of his nearest rival last year and didn't get it done.
 
Yeah, there is always a risk with backmarkers, but he does have a fantastic sustained sprint and at Flemington, as long as the pace isn't farcical backmakers usually get their chance if they are good enough.
 
Look2Me4Guidance said:
His racing style is always risky though. A get backer who'll rely on tempo. Super Cool simply beat him with tactics. Still think IAD can win and deserves to be favourite but the price is far too short for mine given the massive X factor of 2500m. Let's not forget that Manawanui was 24 ratings points ahead of his nearest rival last year and didn't get it done.
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It's A Dundeel has either come to the end of his prep and done too much this spring or really needed the run on Saturday.

Stewards reported that he had a slower than usual recovery rate which usually means that he needed the run. I am not so sure. If he needed the run and is at his best, he will win. If not, and has peaked this prep, the $2.60 is not great.

Could go two ways.
 
Trainer had said that if he was ever going to be beat, the weekend would be when it happened.
I think that the big straight at flemington will definitely suit him better than the tight track at the valley with the short straight.
First run melbourne way, and was beaten by a better horse on the day, however I think that he will be better for the run and he will eat up the big straight at flemington this weekend and should still win.
 

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uptheblues said:
Trainer had said that if he was ever going to be beat, the weekend would be when it happened.
I think that the big straight at flemington will definitely suit him better than the tight track at the valley with the short straight.
First run melbourne way, and was beaten by a better horse on the day, however I think that he will be better for the run and he will eat up the big straight at flemington this weekend and should still win.
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Not sure he was beaten by a better horse though. I think he was beaten by tactics.
 
Racing To Win said:
It's A Dundeel has either come to the end of his prep and done too much this spring or really needed the run on Saturday.

Stewards reported that he had a slower than usual recovery rate which usually means that he needed the run. I am not so sure. If he needed the run and is at his best, he will win. If not, and has peaked this prep, the $2.60 is not great.

Could go two ways.
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Look2Me4Guidance said:
Not sure he was beaten by a better horse though. I think he was beaten by tactics.
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Yeah you're right, was always going to be a big ask to come from last, especially since he has shown in earlier races he takes a bit of time to wind up down the straight. Can't wait to see him go down flemington!
 
Hoping he gets out to $3 at least, he's a genuine stayer unlike beaten faves of the past
Ran 34.91 for the final 600 Saturday so he's not performing poorly
McDonald might have got taught a lesson in tempo last time
I'd say be will try and hit the front as far as 400 out and try to gap them in a true test of stamina. Think Shinn's ride on Viewed in the Cup. Rodd will be trying to cuddle Super Cool for as long as possible.
Hvasstan the danger as he comes and comes and has been trained well for this.
 
Lockyer24 said:
Hoping he gets out to $3 at least, he's a genuine stayer unlike beaten faves of the past
Ran 34.91 for the final 600 Saturday so he's not performing poorly
McDonald might have got taught a lesson in tempo last time
I'd say be will try and hit the front as far as 400 out and try to gap them in a true test of stamina. Think Shinn's ride on Viewed in the Cup. Rodd will be trying to cuddle Super Cool for as long as possible.
Hvasstan the danger as he comes and comes and has been trained well for this.
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I think Electric Fusion is also a sneaky chance.
 
I like Escado to place in the Derby (Maybe a little bit EW). Liked his run behind Philippi and Hvasstan at Flemington then had to make an early 3 wide run at Geelong giving Solemn the drag into the race on his back.

Not sure what to think of a Casino Prince horse running out a strong 2500m though
 
Look2Me4Guidance said:
I think Electric Fusion is also a sneaky chance.
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Yep I agree, him and Honorius are two with great chances IMO. Honorius actually protested and won against Electric Fusion in that race. Had his run hampered pretty much all the way down the straight. Has looked like he's been waiting for this distance his whole prep.
 

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mayhem said:
What's with the bendigo cup field? :(
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It's pretty ordinary isn't it mate. I was surprised when I had a look over it earlier. Could make a case for about 5 runners winning and even that's stretching it.
 
Ricketts said:
Yep I agree, him and Honorius are two with great chances IMO. Honorius actually protested and won against Electric Fusion in that race. Had his run hampered pretty much all the way down the straight. Has looked like he's been waiting for this distance his whole prep.
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I saw him win at the Valley with the rail out 7m two starts ago. He botched the jump and seled last and looped the field to win. Not many do that. Should be suited by Flemington down to a tee and thankfully Nick Hall will be back from suspension to ride. Reckon he might get last crack at them and pinch it.
 
Look2Me4Guidance said:
I saw him win at the Valley with the rail out 7m two starts ago. He botched the jump and seled last and looped the field to win. Not many do that. Should be suited by Flemington down to a tee and thankfully Nick Hall will be back from suspension to ride. Reckon he might get last crack at them and pinch it.
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Do you have any thoughts on his breeding for this? Fastnet Rock?
 
Look2Me4Guidance said:
It's pretty ordinary isn't it mate. I was surprised when I had a look over it earlier. Could make a case for about 5 runners winning and even that's stretching it.
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Yeah, usually it's a decent field. Still i'll have a bet somewhere at this meeting. Dunno about the cup though.
 
Ricketts said:
Do you have any thoughts on his breeding for this? Fastnet Rock?
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Breeding is far from my strongpoint but his granddam was unraced and his dam raced up to 1900m, so obviously questions there.

Prefer to trust my eye I guess.
 

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mayhem said:
Yeah, usually it's a decent field. Still i'll have a bet somewhere at this meeting. Dunno about the cup though.
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